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    Jorgen Andersson
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    So I needed a function for creating a million random numbers, so I could test some statistic functions I'm building. But where do I find a reliable source of a million truly random numbers? On Amazon of course! A Million Random Digits With 100, 000 Normal Deviates: Rand Corporation: 9780029257906: Amazon.com: Books[^] Do read the comments! some are hilarious.

    Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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      So I needed a function for creating a million random numbers, so I could test some statistic functions I'm building. But where do I find a reliable source of a million truly random numbers? On Amazon of course! A Million Random Digits With 100, 000 Normal Deviates: Rand Corporation: 9780029257906: Amazon.com: Books[^] Do read the comments! some are hilarious.

      Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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      honey the codewitch
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      I needed something like that some time ago. I found this RANDOM.ORG - HTTP Interface Description[^] It's pretty great.

      When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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        I needed something like that some time ago. I found this RANDOM.ORG - HTTP Interface Description[^] It's pretty great.

        When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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        Jorgen Andersson
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        Yes, but with a quota of 200000 bits per day, it will take a while to do the tests. :)

        Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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          Yes, but with a quota of 200000 bits per day, it will take a while to do the tests. :)

          Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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          honey the codewitch
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          i was thinking you could download it in batches. They have a bulk generator.

          When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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          • J Jorgen Andersson

            So I needed a function for creating a million random numbers, so I could test some statistic functions I'm building. But where do I find a reliable source of a million truly random numbers? On Amazon of course! A Million Random Digits With 100, 000 Normal Deviates: Rand Corporation: 9780029257906: Amazon.com: Books[^] Do read the comments! some are hilarious.

            Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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            Rick York
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            Great comments ! I needed a bunch of random numbers once and I grabbed a WinAES wrapper class from here and used it. It worked out pretty well.

            "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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              So I needed a function for creating a million random numbers, so I could test some statistic functions I'm building. But where do I find a reliable source of a million truly random numbers? On Amazon of course! A Million Random Digits With 100, 000 Normal Deviates: Rand Corporation: 9780029257906: Amazon.com: Books[^] Do read the comments! some are hilarious.

              Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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              Lost User
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              Jörgen Andersson wrote:

              But where do I find a reliable source of a million truly random numbers?

              Using a search engine you should be able to find a hardware number generator that uses Cesium-137 or Potassium-40. The hardware coming out of Switzerland seems expensive at around €900. Best Wishes, -David Delaune

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              • J Jorgen Andersson

                So I needed a function for creating a million random numbers, so I could test some statistic functions I'm building. But where do I find a reliable source of a million truly random numbers? On Amazon of course! A Million Random Digits With 100, 000 Normal Deviates: Rand Corporation: 9780029257906: Amazon.com: Books[^] Do read the comments! some are hilarious.

                Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                maze3
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                how many digits of a number?

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                • J Jorgen Andersson

                  So I needed a function for creating a million random numbers, so I could test some statistic functions I'm building. But where do I find a reliable source of a million truly random numbers? On Amazon of course! A Million Random Digits With 100, 000 Normal Deviates: Rand Corporation: 9780029257906: Amazon.com: Books[^] Do read the comments! some are hilarious.

                  Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                  Amarnath S
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                  And this book is published in 1955. I wonder what computer they used.

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                    So I needed a function for creating a million random numbers, so I could test some statistic functions I'm building. But where do I find a reliable source of a million truly random numbers? On Amazon of course! A Million Random Digits With 100, 000 Normal Deviates: Rand Corporation: 9780029257906: Amazon.com: Books[^] Do read the comments! some are hilarious.

                    Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                    My late Mum (a statistician) had a book of random numbers in the living room bookshelf. It was one of the most used books when I was a kid (if only because it was regularly taken out to show friends what a weirdo Mum was! :laugh: ;) ) It was a hardcover book, possibly the same as this one (same layout of the random numbers) but I think it just got put in a skip when she downsized in the 1980s. And this hardcover version is selling at $495 !! :doh: X|

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                      And this book is published in 1955. I wonder what computer they used.

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                      Jorgen Andersson
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                      They didn't, they used an electronic roulette wheel and fed the numbers into an IBM punch during May-June 1947. It's in the introduction to the book.

                      Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                        i was thinking you could download it in batches. They have a bulk generator.

                        When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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                        Yes, but with a quota, if you want more you have to pay. And it costs a bit more than I want to pay just to test an idea I have.

                        Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                          Great comments ! I needed a bunch of random numbers once and I grabbed a WinAES wrapper class from here and used it. It worked out pretty well.

                          "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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                          Jorgen Andersson
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                          Seems like the way to go for me. Everything truly random costs money, and I'm just testing something to disprove an idea I had.

                          Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                          • J Jorgen Andersson

                            So I needed a function for creating a million random numbers, so I could test some statistic functions I'm building. But where do I find a reliable source of a million truly random numbers? On Amazon of course! A Million Random Digits With 100, 000 Normal Deviates: Rand Corporation: 9780029257906: Amazon.com: Books[^] Do read the comments! some are hilarious.

                            Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                            carlospc1970
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                            There should be a low-cost way of generating random numbers.

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                              There should be a low-cost way of generating random numbers.

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                              k5054
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                              Raspberry pi's come with a hardware RNG. I don't think they get much cheaper than that. See here: [Raspberry Pi internal hardware random number generator - A study of entropy](https://sites.google.com/site/astudyofentropy/project-definition/raspberry-pi-internal-hardware-random-number-generator)

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