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  • R RickZeeland

    You are right, the best SSD drives are of the M.2 type: Best SSDs 2019: SATA, PCIe, and Add-in Cards | Tom's Hardware[^]

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    And M.2 SSDs are so tiny! About the size of a stick of gum: About 80mm long 20mm wide and barely 2mm high.

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      I may be a speed freak. Not when I'm driving, I am that idiot in front of you who insists on driving at the speed limit, no matter how closely you tailgate him. But I love fast computers, since fiddling with computers is my only hobby. About a year ago my previous desktop was getting old (7 years) and I got a new one from Dell. The new one came with a NVMe slot for a M.2 SSD system drive. I added a regular SATA SSD for an internal data drive. I noticed that the machine was very fast, but yesterday for the first time I ran benchmark software to compare the speed of both SSDs. The test result blew me away. Sequential read speed were 560 MB/s for the SATA SSD, but 3539 MB/s for the M.2 SSD! The M.2 was more than 6 times faster than the regular SATA SSD. Wow! OK Mr Dell, for my next desktop I want a machine with three NVMe M.2 slots. One for my systems drive, one for my data drive and for the drive where I store my systems images, PLEASE!

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      I buy slow computers that freeze every few seconds so I can tell people I'm just a very fast coder :D

      Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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        I buy slow computers that freeze every few seconds so I can tell people I'm just a very fast coder :D

        Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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        Quote:

        I can tell people

        You talk to people? I tell nobody nuttin' :-D

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          Quote:

          I can tell people

          You talk to people? I tell nobody nuttin' :-D

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          By "telling people" I mean "post on forums" ;p

          Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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            I may be a speed freak. Not when I'm driving, I am that idiot in front of you who insists on driving at the speed limit, no matter how closely you tailgate him. But I love fast computers, since fiddling with computers is my only hobby. About a year ago my previous desktop was getting old (7 years) and I got a new one from Dell. The new one came with a NVMe slot for a M.2 SSD system drive. I added a regular SATA SSD for an internal data drive. I noticed that the machine was very fast, but yesterday for the first time I ran benchmark software to compare the speed of both SSDs. The test result blew me away. Sequential read speed were 560 MB/s for the SATA SSD, but 3539 MB/s for the M.2 SSD! The M.2 was more than 6 times faster than the regular SATA SSD. Wow! OK Mr Dell, for my next desktop I want a machine with three NVMe M.2 slots. One for my systems drive, one for my data drive and for the drive where I store my systems images, PLEASE!

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            I too love speed (when it comes to dev boxes) too, and like you, I don't feel the need to exceed the speed limit when driving.  My weapon of choice is the GigaByte BRIX[^].  My (now 3 year old) model has an 8-core i7 running at 3.2GHz, 16GB RAM, and a 500GB fast-write Samsung SSD.  I use it exclusively for development and it screams!  :cool: /ravi

            My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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            • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

              By "telling people" I mean "post on forums" ;p

              Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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              OK. I was just messing with you! :)

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              • RaviBeeR RaviBee

                I too love speed (when it comes to dev boxes) too, and like you, I don't feel the need to exceed the speed limit when driving.  My weapon of choice is the GigaByte BRIX[^].  My (now 3 year old) model has an 8-core i7 running at 3.2GHz, 16GB RAM, and a 500GB fast-write Samsung SSD.  I use it exclusively for development and it screams!  :cool: /ravi

                My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                I see it has DDR4 memory. Nice!

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                  I see it has DDR4 memory. Nice!

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                  Yes, and the new models support 2 drives and 32G RAM.  Aside from its speed, I love the fact that I can put it in my briefcase when I travel (which admittedly isn't often) because it's only 4" x 4" x 2" in size.  It's smaller than my WD 8TB MyBook external drive! /ravi

                  My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                  • RaviBeeR RaviBee

                    I too love speed (when it comes to dev boxes) too, and like you, I don't feel the need to exceed the speed limit when driving.  My weapon of choice is the GigaByte BRIX[^].  My (now 3 year old) model has an 8-core i7 running at 3.2GHz, 16GB RAM, and a 500GB fast-write Samsung SSD.  I use it exclusively for development and it screams!  :cool: /ravi

                    My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                    Ravi Bhavnani wrote:

                    I use it exclusively for development and it screams!

                    ...in pain? What are you doing to that poor system? :~

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                    • RaviBeeR RaviBee

                      Yes, and the new models support 2 drives and 32G RAM.  Aside from its speed, I love the fact that I can put it in my briefcase when I travel (which admittedly isn't often) because it's only 4" x 4" x 2" in size.  It's smaller than my WD 8TB MyBook external drive! /ravi

                      My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                      I usually have 3 drives in my machine. One for the system and applications, one for data and one for Macrium images of the C: drive.

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                      • C Cp Coder

                        I may be a speed freak. Not when I'm driving, I am that idiot in front of you who insists on driving at the speed limit, no matter how closely you tailgate him. But I love fast computers, since fiddling with computers is my only hobby. About a year ago my previous desktop was getting old (7 years) and I got a new one from Dell. The new one came with a NVMe slot for a M.2 SSD system drive. I added a regular SATA SSD for an internal data drive. I noticed that the machine was very fast, but yesterday for the first time I ran benchmark software to compare the speed of both SSDs. The test result blew me away. Sequential read speed were 560 MB/s for the SATA SSD, but 3539 MB/s for the M.2 SSD! The M.2 was more than 6 times faster than the regular SATA SSD. Wow! OK Mr Dell, for my next desktop I want a machine with three NVMe M.2 slots. One for my systems drive, one for my data drive and for the drive where I store my systems images, PLEASE!

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                        Cp-Coder wrote:

                        One for my systems drive, one for my data drive and for the drive where I store my systems images, PLEASE!

                        I'll take the fastest drive I can get for the OS, but other things really don't matter. My main data store is a NAS, and my network connection is the bottleneck, not the set of 8TB spinning drives I have it running. It's not like MP3s sound better if the bits are read faster. Even a slow spinning drive can keep up with realtime playback (even full HD video). A few years ago, when SSDs were still at a premium, I had to talk a neighbor out of buying a bunch of SSDs just to host his multi-TB music collection. The OS, apps, some data...it makes sense...but beyond that, it's easy to get into overkill territory.

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                          Cp-Coder wrote:

                          One for my systems drive, one for my data drive and for the drive where I store my systems images, PLEASE!

                          I'll take the fastest drive I can get for the OS, but other things really don't matter. My main data store is a NAS, and my network connection is the bottleneck, not the set of 8TB spinning drives I have it running. It's not like MP3s sound better if the bits are read faster. Even a slow spinning drive can keep up with realtime playback (even full HD video). A few years ago, when SSDs were still at a premium, I had to talk a neighbor out of buying a bunch of SSDs just to host his multi-TB music collection. The OS, apps, some data...it makes sense...but beyond that, it's easy to get into overkill territory.

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                          You may be overlooking one consideration. The best M.2 SSDs now cost the same as SATA SSDs of the same size and soon will be cheaper. Why buy an old style SSD when you can get a version that is 6 times faster for the same price? [Edit] Of course you need a main board with a dedicated NVMe slot for every M.2 drive. You cannot fit them to any computer.

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                            I may be a speed freak. Not when I'm driving, I am that idiot in front of you who insists on driving at the speed limit, no matter how closely you tailgate him. But I love fast computers, since fiddling with computers is my only hobby. About a year ago my previous desktop was getting old (7 years) and I got a new one from Dell. The new one came with a NVMe slot for a M.2 SSD system drive. I added a regular SATA SSD for an internal data drive. I noticed that the machine was very fast, but yesterday for the first time I ran benchmark software to compare the speed of both SSDs. The test result blew me away. Sequential read speed were 560 MB/s for the SATA SSD, but 3539 MB/s for the M.2 SSD! The M.2 was more than 6 times faster than the regular SATA SSD. Wow! OK Mr Dell, for my next desktop I want a machine with three NVMe M.2 slots. One for my systems drive, one for my data drive and for the drive where I store my systems images, PLEASE!

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                            Cp-Coder wrote:

                            I may be a speed freak. Not when I'm driving, I am that idiot in front of you who insists on driving at the speed limit

                            That's just plain un-American...

                            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                            When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                              Cp-Coder wrote:

                              I may be a speed freak. Not when I'm driving, I am that idiot in front of you who insists on driving at the speed limit

                              That's just plain un-American...

                              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                              When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                              That's just plain un-American...

                              Now how do I react to that? Thank you or scold you? :laugh:

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                                That's just plain un-American...

                                Now how do I react to that? Thank you or scold you? :laugh:

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                                What do you drive? I can't imagine that it would be anything with more than 4 cylinders - which is also un-American (4-cylinder cars, that is).

                                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                -----
                                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                  What do you drive? I can't imagine that it would be anything with more than 4 cylinders - which is also un-American (4-cylinder cars, that is).

                                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                  -----
                                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                  -----
                                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                  I drive a 4 cylinder Toyota Camry. So There!! It's Japanese! :^)

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                                    I drive a 4 cylinder Toyota Camry. So There!! It's Japanese! :^)

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                                    Then it's no wonder you only do the speed limit.

                                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                    -----
                                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                    -----
                                    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                    • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                      Then it's no wonder you only do the speed limit.

                                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                      -----
                                      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                      -----
                                      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                      If in your view one has to routinely break the law to be a true American, then by all means classify me as "un-American." But that is only your view!

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                                        Ravi Bhavnani wrote:

                                        I use it exclusively for development and it screams!

                                        ...in pain? What are you doing to that poor system? :~

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                                        :-D /ravi

                                        My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                                        • C Cp Coder

                                          If in your view one has to routinely break the law to be a true American, then by all means classify me as "un-American." But that is only your view!

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                                          Well, I'm being (what I thought was obviously) sarcastic, and you're busy being a pedantic little bitch. But hey, that's just my view...

                                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                          -----
                                          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                          -----
                                          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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