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    tara lara
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    Hi. I have been going around to different discussion forms online asking the same question. I want to know if someone on "codeproject.com" could give me some helpful advice regarding these question also (sorry, my post is a little long).

    I am a college student and I am in my third year of college. I have an associate degree in general science and I am studying to earn my bachelor's degree in Computer Science. I have been trying to get an internship to get work experience for the summer of 2020 and even got two phone interviews but regardless I keep being denied the internship positions. Now I wonder if I will even get an internship before I graduate. Due to my dilemma I have some questions:

    (1) I am looking at other options as far as work experience is concerned. I think I might have to work at the IT department at my school. Will this help me get at least and entry level/ associate level job in software? This job does not relate to software or programming but it relates to the technology field which is why I picked it.

    (2) I have also done a research project remotely and I plan on doing more research projects that are teacher lead. Can this help boost my chances at getting an entry level position after graduation?

    (3) Should I do more personal projects? If I put an older personal project on my resume, will an employer think that the project is outdated?

    (4) Will my resume look competitive enough without a real internship? Having an internship seems like something employees really want (I guess it ensures that the employee can really code) but I think I am running out of options.

    (5) I wanted to do some programming competitions at my school even if I lose the competition. Do you think this can be added to my resume?

    (6) I wanted to do this program at my school were you visit a company to see what a typical day is like for someone who does the same job you want to do after graduation. Do you think that this can be added to my resume (I know it's not an internship but I am just looking for ways to make my resume look more competitive).

    (7) Some companies say that even if you don't get a job with them, they will save your resume and call you back if any other positions are available. Do you think that even though I did not get some of these internships, they could call me back for other positions (if I at least apply to other positions)?

    (8) How early should I apply for a job to ensure that I have a chance of getting the opportunity? If I apply for jobs my last year of college, I might

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      Hi. I have been going around to different discussion forms online asking the same question. I want to know if someone on "codeproject.com" could give me some helpful advice regarding these question also (sorry, my post is a little long).

      I am a college student and I am in my third year of college. I have an associate degree in general science and I am studying to earn my bachelor's degree in Computer Science. I have been trying to get an internship to get work experience for the summer of 2020 and even got two phone interviews but regardless I keep being denied the internship positions. Now I wonder if I will even get an internship before I graduate. Due to my dilemma I have some questions:

      (1) I am looking at other options as far as work experience is concerned. I think I might have to work at the IT department at my school. Will this help me get at least and entry level/ associate level job in software? This job does not relate to software or programming but it relates to the technology field which is why I picked it.

      (2) I have also done a research project remotely and I plan on doing more research projects that are teacher lead. Can this help boost my chances at getting an entry level position after graduation?

      (3) Should I do more personal projects? If I put an older personal project on my resume, will an employer think that the project is outdated?

      (4) Will my resume look competitive enough without a real internship? Having an internship seems like something employees really want (I guess it ensures that the employee can really code) but I think I am running out of options.

      (5) I wanted to do some programming competitions at my school even if I lose the competition. Do you think this can be added to my resume?

      (6) I wanted to do this program at my school were you visit a company to see what a typical day is like for someone who does the same job you want to do after graduation. Do you think that this can be added to my resume (I know it's not an internship but I am just looking for ways to make my resume look more competitive).

      (7) Some companies say that even if you don't get a job with them, they will save your resume and call you back if any other positions are available. Do you think that even though I did not get some of these internships, they could call me back for other positions (if I at least apply to other positions)?

      (8) How early should I apply for a job to ensure that I have a chance of getting the opportunity? If I apply for jobs my last year of college, I might

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      Maciej Los
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      You've asked several question related to the recruiting process, which can be answered separately, but i have one general answer to them. Stop thinking, start doing! Until you try, you'll never know what skill, experience is important in application process for specific position of job. Every employer is looking for something specific to his profile of bussines. All you have to do is to get as many information as possible about your future employer and create adequate CV. I'd suggest to read about [Recruitment and Hiring Process](https://www.thebalancecareers.com/recruitment-and-hiring-process-2062875).

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      • T tara lara

        Hi. I have been going around to different discussion forms online asking the same question. I want to know if someone on "codeproject.com" could give me some helpful advice regarding these question also (sorry, my post is a little long).

        I am a college student and I am in my third year of college. I have an associate degree in general science and I am studying to earn my bachelor's degree in Computer Science. I have been trying to get an internship to get work experience for the summer of 2020 and even got two phone interviews but regardless I keep being denied the internship positions. Now I wonder if I will even get an internship before I graduate. Due to my dilemma I have some questions:

        (1) I am looking at other options as far as work experience is concerned. I think I might have to work at the IT department at my school. Will this help me get at least and entry level/ associate level job in software? This job does not relate to software or programming but it relates to the technology field which is why I picked it.

        (2) I have also done a research project remotely and I plan on doing more research projects that are teacher lead. Can this help boost my chances at getting an entry level position after graduation?

        (3) Should I do more personal projects? If I put an older personal project on my resume, will an employer think that the project is outdated?

        (4) Will my resume look competitive enough without a real internship? Having an internship seems like something employees really want (I guess it ensures that the employee can really code) but I think I am running out of options.

        (5) I wanted to do some programming competitions at my school even if I lose the competition. Do you think this can be added to my resume?

        (6) I wanted to do this program at my school were you visit a company to see what a typical day is like for someone who does the same job you want to do after graduation. Do you think that this can be added to my resume (I know it's not an internship but I am just looking for ways to make my resume look more competitive).

        (7) Some companies say that even if you don't get a job with them, they will save your resume and call you back if any other positions are available. Do you think that even though I did not get some of these internships, they could call me back for other positions (if I at least apply to other positions)?

        (8) How early should I apply for a job to ensure that I have a chance of getting the opportunity? If I apply for jobs my last year of college, I might

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        The most important thing most employers look for is experience. So, how do you get your first job? Include projects from school, personal projects, certifications, anything to show that you know what you are doing. Then use job websites to search for entry level positions.

        Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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          You've asked several question related to the recruiting process, which can be answered separately, but i have one general answer to them. Stop thinking, start doing! Until you try, you'll never know what skill, experience is important in application process for specific position of job. Every employer is looking for something specific to his profile of bussines. All you have to do is to get as many information as possible about your future employer and create adequate CV. I'd suggest to read about [Recruitment and Hiring Process](https://www.thebalancecareers.com/recruitment-and-hiring-process-2062875).

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          tara lara
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          Yeah I know. I have been to my school's job fair's to try and network with companies in my area. I have sent e-mails to recruiters asking them to review my application if they had the time to do so. I have done mock interviews and resume building workshops at my school also (I only mention these things because I don't want to look like I haven't tried. The opportunity won't just come out of thin air and I realize that). I only asked the the question to see if anyone has any other idea's I can do that can help me out also.

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            The most important thing most employers look for is experience. So, how do you get your first job? Include projects from school, personal projects, certifications, anything to show that you know what you are doing. Then use job websites to search for entry level positions.

            Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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            tara lara
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            Thank you. Adding personal projects on my resume is basically what I have been doing so far. I guess it was enough to get my two phone interview for an internship (though I was denied the position). I also wanted to get a certificate to include but a lot of them are expensive to get. However, I will still look into getting one certification before I graduate. Also, I know that when writing a resume you have to include some of the stuff that was mentioned in the job description. Otherwise, your resume might not be picked. It's not like I haven't researched the hiring process. Anyway, thank's for your input.

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              Thank you. Adding personal projects on my resume is basically what I have been doing so far. I guess it was enough to get my two phone interview for an internship (though I was denied the position). I also wanted to get a certificate to include but a lot of them are expensive to get. However, I will still look into getting one certification before I graduate. Also, I know that when writing a resume you have to include some of the stuff that was mentioned in the job description. Otherwise, your resume might not be picked. It's not like I haven't researched the hiring process. Anyway, thank's for your input.

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              If you are in the Atlanta area we'll be hiring a Junior Developer in a few months.

              Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                If you are in the Atlanta area we'll be hiring a Junior Developer in a few months.

                Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                Ironically I live in a county around this area but I have no transportation to get to Atlanta (I have never had a job to get a car). Thanks anyway. Isn't a Junior developer the same as an entry level position? I don't think I have enough skills for an entry level job (which is why I was trying to get an internship)- until I get closer to my graduation day. Also, what company are you referring to? Maybe I can do some research on this company and see (when I hopefully move to Atlanta sometime after graduation because they have more jobs in this field) if I might be qualified to eventually work at that company.

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                  You've asked several question related to the recruiting process, which can be answered separately, but i have one general answer to them. Stop thinking, start doing! Until you try, you'll never know what skill, experience is important in application process for specific position of job. Every employer is looking for something specific to his profile of bussines. All you have to do is to get as many information as possible about your future employer and create adequate CV. I'd suggest to read about [Recruitment and Hiring Process](https://www.thebalancecareers.com/recruitment-and-hiring-process-2062875).

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                  :-D

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                  • T tara lara

                    Hi. I have been going around to different discussion forms online asking the same question. I want to know if someone on "codeproject.com" could give me some helpful advice regarding these question also (sorry, my post is a little long).

                    I am a college student and I am in my third year of college. I have an associate degree in general science and I am studying to earn my bachelor's degree in Computer Science. I have been trying to get an internship to get work experience for the summer of 2020 and even got two phone interviews but regardless I keep being denied the internship positions. Now I wonder if I will even get an internship before I graduate. Due to my dilemma I have some questions:

                    (1) I am looking at other options as far as work experience is concerned. I think I might have to work at the IT department at my school. Will this help me get at least and entry level/ associate level job in software? This job does not relate to software or programming but it relates to the technology field which is why I picked it.

                    (2) I have also done a research project remotely and I plan on doing more research projects that are teacher lead. Can this help boost my chances at getting an entry level position after graduation?

                    (3) Should I do more personal projects? If I put an older personal project on my resume, will an employer think that the project is outdated?

                    (4) Will my resume look competitive enough without a real internship? Having an internship seems like something employees really want (I guess it ensures that the employee can really code) but I think I am running out of options.

                    (5) I wanted to do some programming competitions at my school even if I lose the competition. Do you think this can be added to my resume?

                    (6) I wanted to do this program at my school were you visit a company to see what a typical day is like for someone who does the same job you want to do after graduation. Do you think that this can be added to my resume (I know it's not an internship but I am just looking for ways to make my resume look more competitive).

                    (7) Some companies say that even if you don't get a job with them, they will save your resume and call you back if any other positions are available. Do you think that even though I did not get some of these internships, they could call me back for other positions (if I at least apply to other positions)?

                    (8) How early should I apply for a job to ensure that I have a chance of getting the opportunity? If I apply for jobs my last year of college, I might

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                    Kiril Topalov
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                    :) :)

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                    • T tara lara

                      Hi. I have been going around to different discussion forms online asking the same question. I want to know if someone on "codeproject.com" could give me some helpful advice regarding these question also (sorry, my post is a little long).

                      I am a college student and I am in my third year of college. I have an associate degree in general science and I am studying to earn my bachelor's degree in Computer Science. I have been trying to get an internship to get work experience for the summer of 2020 and even got two phone interviews but regardless I keep being denied the internship positions. Now I wonder if I will even get an internship before I graduate. Due to my dilemma I have some questions:

                      (1) I am looking at other options as far as work experience is concerned. I think I might have to work at the IT department at my school. Will this help me get at least and entry level/ associate level job in software? This job does not relate to software or programming but it relates to the technology field which is why I picked it.

                      (2) I have also done a research project remotely and I plan on doing more research projects that are teacher lead. Can this help boost my chances at getting an entry level position after graduation?

                      (3) Should I do more personal projects? If I put an older personal project on my resume, will an employer think that the project is outdated?

                      (4) Will my resume look competitive enough without a real internship? Having an internship seems like something employees really want (I guess it ensures that the employee can really code) but I think I am running out of options.

                      (5) I wanted to do some programming competitions at my school even if I lose the competition. Do you think this can be added to my resume?

                      (6) I wanted to do this program at my school were you visit a company to see what a typical day is like for someone who does the same job you want to do after graduation. Do you think that this can be added to my resume (I know it's not an internship but I am just looking for ways to make my resume look more competitive).

                      (7) Some companies say that even if you don't get a job with them, they will save your resume and call you back if any other positions are available. Do you think that even though I did not get some of these internships, they could call me back for other positions (if I at least apply to other positions)?

                      (8) How early should I apply for a job to ensure that I have a chance of getting the opportunity? If I apply for jobs my last year of college, I might

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                        Ironically I live in a county around this area but I have no transportation to get to Atlanta (I have never had a job to get a car). Thanks anyway. Isn't a Junior developer the same as an entry level position? I don't think I have enough skills for an entry level job (which is why I was trying to get an internship)- until I get closer to my graduation day. Also, what company are you referring to? Maybe I can do some research on this company and see (when I hopefully move to Atlanta sometime after graduation because they have more jobs in this field) if I might be qualified to eventually work at that company.

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                        This thread was very insightful. At least I know I can have a good software career ahead of me.

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                          If you are in the Atlanta area we'll be hiring a Junior Developer in a few months.

                          Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                          • T tara lara

                            Hi. I have been going around to different discussion forms online asking the same question. I want to know if someone on "codeproject.com" could give me some helpful advice regarding these question also (sorry, my post is a little long).

                            I am a college student and I am in my third year of college. I have an associate degree in general science and I am studying to earn my bachelor's degree in Computer Science. I have been trying to get an internship to get work experience for the summer of 2020 and even got two phone interviews but regardless I keep being denied the internship positions. Now I wonder if I will even get an internship before I graduate. Due to my dilemma I have some questions:

                            (1) I am looking at other options as far as work experience is concerned. I think I might have to work at the IT department at my school. Will this help me get at least and entry level/ associate level job in software? This job does not relate to software or programming but it relates to the technology field which is why I picked it.

                            (2) I have also done a research project remotely and I plan on doing more research projects that are teacher lead. Can this help boost my chances at getting an entry level position after graduation?

                            (3) Should I do more personal projects? If I put an older personal project on my resume, will an employer think that the project is outdated?

                            (4) Will my resume look competitive enough without a real internship? Having an internship seems like something employees really want (I guess it ensures that the employee can really code) but I think I am running out of options.

                            (5) I wanted to do some programming competitions at my school even if I lose the competition. Do you think this can be added to my resume?

                            (6) I wanted to do this program at my school were you visit a company to see what a typical day is like for someone who does the same job you want to do after graduation. Do you think that this can be added to my resume (I know it's not an internship but I am just looking for ways to make my resume look more competitive).

                            (7) Some companies say that even if you don't get a job with them, they will save your resume and call you back if any other positions are available. Do you think that even though I did not get some of these internships, they could call me back for other positions (if I at least apply to other positions)?

                            (8) How early should I apply for a job to ensure that I have a chance of getting the opportunity? If I apply for jobs my last year of college, I might

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                            It all depends on the level of knowledge he shows. He might not have these degrees, but be a very good in soft. Some guys that I know are almost genius, but they do not even have special education. Besides, much depends on the country you live in.

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