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Are there any honest booksellers left?

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  • D Dan Neely

    Better hope they're not thorough about blocking people; your credit records will tie whatever card you use on your current account and whatever card you try to use on a replacement back to your identity. If they ban people, not just accounts, you won't be able to do an easy end run.

    Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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    Rajesh R Subramanian
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    Yeah, I don't think they'd go that far. Besides, I could generate an unlimited number of virtual card numbers within my bank account. Identity? They'd have my identity my a*$e. They ship items to my po box and don't know my surname. They don't have my address, and don't have my phone number (not a real one anyways).

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    If they ban people, not just accounts, you won't be able to do an easy end run.

    Ironic you'd phrase it like that. I'm not "doing an easy and running" if they failed to take action after I report having been cheated. They're the ones expecting to do an easy and run, but that won't work with me. You're also talking as if an amazon account is my passport. I treat it as a disposable entity.

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    • R Ron Anders

      Amazon order processor Kia: "A book?! Hey, someone want book, where do we get book like this now?" Remember when Amazon was just books?

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      Ravi Bhavnani
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      Aye! :thumbsup: /ravi

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      • R Rajesh R Subramanian

        I'd file a dispute with the credit card issuer, and issue a charge-back if it were me. Amazon can go stick it up their rear with attitude like that. It's not the amount of money, but I'm not going to be cheated like that.

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        Don't just blame Amazon. The publisher (Pearson) have this stupid arrangement where you need a valid access code to use their website and get the source files to download. The access code only works once. Don't buy the book second hand. The code won't work. If an unscrupulous seller sells you a book in the "wrong" part of the world, the access code will be invalid. The Indian version of the book doesn't even have the right number of letters / numbers in their access code, yet numerous sellers are selling it here in the USA. I am going back to Apress: Modern X86 Assembly Language Programming by Daniel Kusswurm. I have always liked Apress books. They choose their authors well and they offer unrestricted access to the online source code of the book.

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        • R Rajesh R Subramanian

          I'd file a dispute with the credit card issuer, and issue a charge-back if it were me. Amazon can go stick it up their rear with attitude like that. It's not the amount of money, but I'm not going to be cheated like that.

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          I am stuck through no fault of my own with Irvine's book without the ability to download its source files. The "access codes" supplied with the Indian version of this book (that is widely sold by retailers here in the USA) don't work! Clearly trusting an Amazon supplier was a mistake. I am dumping the book and going with publisher Apress's book: Modern X86 Assembly Language Programming by Daniel Kusswurm. I have always liked books published by Apress. They choose their authors well and they offer unrestricted online access to their books' resources. No stupid access codes required! And this book was supplied by Amazon itself, not some shady retailer.

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            I am trying to get a NEW version of Kip Irvine's book: "Assembly Language for X86 Processors Seventh Edition". Should be simple - right? I ordered it from Amazon. Those sunshines do not sell it themselves, but they sell through third party bookstores. Ordered a copy, but the store sent me a contraband version that is only to be sold in India! The paper quality is poor, and although new the book arrived dirty and not in the best of shape. I can live with all that, BUT: the access code that you need to register your purchase so you can get access to its website and download codes, does not work in the USA! The kind seller will only let you return it if you cover the return shipping cost, which is about the price of the book. Amazon is of no help, but I plan to register a serious complaint about the seller. Not that Amazon would care! :sigh: I have researched a number of other sellers. Most have lousy ratings: For selling contraband Indian product. The vast majority are selling second hand books - which means the access code has been used and is no longer valid. I found one source selling a new version of the sixth (previous) version for $160 :omg: Does anyone know where I can get a new legitimate copy of the seventh edition at a reasonable price? Thanks!

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            Did you just post a couple of replies to me and then delete it?!

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            • R Rajesh R Subramanian

              Did you just post a couple of replies to me and then delete it?!

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              Yes. I just decided to rather use the book Modern X86 Assembly Language Programming by Daniel Kusswurm, published by Apress. You can access the book's source code online unrestricted - no need for access codes. I have always had good experiences with Apress books. They really pick good authors for their books. Too many retailers here seem to sell the Indian issue of Irvine's book. The access codes given in the Indian version of the book don't seem to work in the USA and I don't feel like typing all the sources files.

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                Yes. I just decided to rather use the book Modern X86 Assembly Language Programming by Daniel Kusswurm, published by Apress. You can access the book's source code online unrestricted - no need for access codes. I have always had good experiences with Apress books. They really pick good authors for their books. Too many retailers here seem to sell the Indian issue of Irvine's book. The access codes given in the Indian version of the book don't seem to work in the USA and I don't feel like typing all the sources files.

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                Rajesh R Subramanian
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                Yeah, my question was why do you post a message here and then delete it? You did that twice.

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                • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                  Yeah, my question was why do you post a message here and then delete it? You did that twice.

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                  I just changed my mind - twice. :)

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                    I am trying to get a NEW version of Kip Irvine's book: "Assembly Language for X86 Processors Seventh Edition". Should be simple - right? I ordered it from Amazon. Those sunshines do not sell it themselves, but they sell through third party bookstores. Ordered a copy, but the store sent me a contraband version that is only to be sold in India! The paper quality is poor, and although new the book arrived dirty and not in the best of shape. I can live with all that, BUT: the access code that you need to register your purchase so you can get access to its website and download codes, does not work in the USA! The kind seller will only let you return it if you cover the return shipping cost, which is about the price of the book. Amazon is of no help, but I plan to register a serious complaint about the seller. Not that Amazon would care! :sigh: I have researched a number of other sellers. Most have lousy ratings: For selling contraband Indian product. The vast majority are selling second hand books - which means the access code has been used and is no longer valid. I found one source selling a new version of the sixth (previous) version for $160 :omg: Does anyone know where I can get a new legitimate copy of the seventh edition at a reasonable price? Thanks!

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                    Jrvansant
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                    Just file an A-z claim. State that the product you received was not the domestic product you ordered, but an Indian version. The seller will be forced to refund you.

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                    • J Jrvansant

                      Just file an A-z claim. State that the product you received was not the domestic product you ordered, but an Indian version. The seller will be forced to refund you.

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                      Cp Coder
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                      Thanks, the company has issued me with a return label, but I must pay the postage. :sigh:

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                      • C Cp Coder

                        Thanks, the company has issued me with a return label, but I must pay the postage. :sigh:

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                        Jrvansant
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                        No, that is not how it works -- they cannot force you to pay the return shipping. If they sent the wrong item it is on them to pay the return shipping. (I am a longtime Amazon seller and I know their rules.) By "wrong" in this case of course I mean not the domestic edition of that book, which is what you purchased and what you expected. Write the seller back and tell them that you expect to receive a postpaid return label or you will file an A-z claim. If they hesitate at all just stop communicating with them and file the claim, saying what happened - that you received an Indian version of the book rather than domestic, and the seller is requiring you to pay return shipping, which you should not have to do.

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                        • R Ravi Bhavnani

                          Abe Books, perhaps?

                          • 9780133769401: Assembly Language for x86 Processors (7th Edition) - AbeBooks - Irvine, Kip R.: 0133769402[^] Used (US edition) $7.22

                          /ravi

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                          Steve Naidamast
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                          I thought third party sellers on Amazon always had their locations listed. At least when I have bought from them they have...

                          Steve Naidamast Sr. Software Engineer Black Falcon Software, Inc. blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com

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                          • C Cp Coder

                            I am trying to get a NEW version of Kip Irvine's book: "Assembly Language for X86 Processors Seventh Edition". Should be simple - right? I ordered it from Amazon. Those sunshines do not sell it themselves, but they sell through third party bookstores. Ordered a copy, but the store sent me a contraband version that is only to be sold in India! The paper quality is poor, and although new the book arrived dirty and not in the best of shape. I can live with all that, BUT: the access code that you need to register your purchase so you can get access to its website and download codes, does not work in the USA! The kind seller will only let you return it if you cover the return shipping cost, which is about the price of the book. Amazon is of no help, but I plan to register a serious complaint about the seller. Not that Amazon would care! :sigh: I have researched a number of other sellers. Most have lousy ratings: For selling contraband Indian product. The vast majority are selling second hand books - which means the access code has been used and is no longer valid. I found one source selling a new version of the sixth (previous) version for $160 :omg: Does anyone know where I can get a new legitimate copy of the seventh edition at a reasonable price? Thanks!

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                            Janes Diary
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                            Did you buy the Hardcover or the paperback version? I run into this kind of thing all the time when getting books like these, you are not alone, friend. You either get the more expensive US version, or the reprint knockoff international version that Amazon will sell you for $800 but every other seller for less than $60. I just checked, because I ordered it last year, and Amazon does sell the Hardcover for $149.32 (+ taxes) [[Link](https://www.amazon.com/Assembly-Language-x86-Processors-7th-dp-0133769402/dp/0133769402/ref=mt\_hardcover?\_encoding=UTF8&me=&qid=)]. It should have the access code intact, and not be too banged up. At least, mine did. Unless they did not have them when you bought it and only just stocked it. And to answer your question about honest sellers, yes, there are some still hanging around. Recently bought from (within last two years) for programming related books: 1. Amazon Services, Inc. (Ironic, I know. But I have not been totally disappointed) 2. Thriftbooks | 3. Heritage Books |- Used books mostly (all, probably). Less likely to carry programming books 4. Jensen Books Inc | I have not gotten anything I did not intend to receive from these sellers.

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                              Amazon order processor Kia: "A book?! Hey, someone want book, where do we get book like this now?" Remember when Amazon was just books?

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                              I remember radio ads for Amazon in the early 2000's where the theme was a guy looking for a warehouse big enough to hold their book inventory.

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                                Amazon order processor Kia: "A book?! Hey, someone want book, where do we get book like this now?" Remember when Amazon was just books?

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                                I remember radio ads for Amazon in the early 2000's where the theme was a guy looking for a warehouse big enough to hold their book inventory.

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                                  Amazon order processor Kia: "A book?! Hey, someone want book, where do we get book like this now?" Remember when Amazon was just books?

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                                  I remember radio ads for Amazon in the early 2000's where the theme was a guy looking for a warehouse big enough to hold their book inventory.

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                                    Amazon order processor Kia: "A book?! Hey, someone want book, where do we get book like this now?" Remember when Amazon was just books?

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                                    I remember radio ads for Amazon in the early 2000's where the theme was a guy looking for a warehouse big enough to hold their book inventory.

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                                      Amazon order processor Kia: "A book?! Hey, someone want book, where do we get book like this now?" Remember when Amazon was just books?

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                                      I remember radio ads for Amazon in the early 2000's where the theme was a guy looking for a warehouse big enough to hold their book inventory.

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                                        I remember radio ads for Amazon in the early 2000's where the theme was a guy looking for a warehouse big enough to hold their book inventory.

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                                          I am trying to get a NEW version of Kip Irvine's book: "Assembly Language for X86 Processors Seventh Edition". Should be simple - right? I ordered it from Amazon. Those sunshines do not sell it themselves, but they sell through third party bookstores. Ordered a copy, but the store sent me a contraband version that is only to be sold in India! The paper quality is poor, and although new the book arrived dirty and not in the best of shape. I can live with all that, BUT: the access code that you need to register your purchase so you can get access to its website and download codes, does not work in the USA! The kind seller will only let you return it if you cover the return shipping cost, which is about the price of the book. Amazon is of no help, but I plan to register a serious complaint about the seller. Not that Amazon would care! :sigh: I have researched a number of other sellers. Most have lousy ratings: For selling contraband Indian product. The vast majority are selling second hand books - which means the access code has been used and is no longer valid. I found one source selling a new version of the sixth (previous) version for $160 :omg: Does anyone know where I can get a new legitimate copy of the seventh edition at a reasonable price? Thanks!

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                                          Unfortunately the new 8th edition is now available as eText: https://www.vitalsource.com/educators/products/assembly-language-for-x86-processors-kip-r-irvine-v9780135381793?term=9780135381793 only with a (LOOSE-LEAF) Print if requested Actually you can use the previous 7th paper-book, even a used one: https://www.pearson.com/us/higher-education/product/Irvine-Assembly-Language-for-x-86-Processors-7th-Edition/9780133769401.html much cheaper and easy to get, because almost all chapter contents are the same. The major change to 8th is just the interactive functionality in questions, links, videos, etc. online that you don't need to care. For code downloading text samples and its library, simply go www.asmirvine.com, where you can click the links "Getting started with MASM and Visual Studio 2019" and "Debugging tools" etc. to start Good luck!

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