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    Maximilien
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    (hardware seems to be on-topic today ... ) I'm in the process of upgrading my gaming PC. I need to upgrade CPU/motherboard/RAM and GPU. I currently have a GigaByte motherboard, so, why not look at what they have now : They have [400+ motherboard available](https://www.gigabyte.com/ca/Motherboard/Ultra-Durable™) Looking at [ASUS](https://www.asus.com/ca-en/Motherboards/All-Series/), same shit. Same crap for GPU, either AMD or Nvidia. :~

    I'd rather be phishing!

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      (hardware seems to be on-topic today ... ) I'm in the process of upgrading my gaming PC. I need to upgrade CPU/motherboard/RAM and GPU. I currently have a GigaByte motherboard, so, why not look at what they have now : They have [400+ motherboard available](https://www.gigabyte.com/ca/Motherboard/Ultra-Durable™) Looking at [ASUS](https://www.asus.com/ca-en/Motherboards/All-Series/), same shit. Same crap for GPU, either AMD or Nvidia. :~

      I'd rather be phishing!

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      Cp Coder
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      If I may offer a word of advice: Get a main board with a dedicated M.2 form factor SSD connector. :)

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        (hardware seems to be on-topic today ... ) I'm in the process of upgrading my gaming PC. I need to upgrade CPU/motherboard/RAM and GPU. I currently have a GigaByte motherboard, so, why not look at what they have now : They have [400+ motherboard available](https://www.gigabyte.com/ca/Motherboard/Ultra-Durable™) Looking at [ASUS](https://www.asus.com/ca-en/Motherboards/All-Series/), same shit. Same crap for GPU, either AMD or Nvidia. :~

        I'd rather be phishing!

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        Lost User
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        start from the specs you want (CPU, slots, memory, M2) and work backwards. I found NewEgg best at letting you narrow choices by spec - not saying should buy from them, but their product chooser (check boxes on left hand side) is the best I've found

        after many otherwise intelligent sounding suggestions that achieved nothing the nice folks at Technet said the only solution was to low level format my hard disk then reinstall my signature. Sadly, this still didn't fix the issue!

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          (hardware seems to be on-topic today ... ) I'm in the process of upgrading my gaming PC. I need to upgrade CPU/motherboard/RAM and GPU. I currently have a GigaByte motherboard, so, why not look at what they have now : They have [400+ motherboard available](https://www.gigabyte.com/ca/Motherboard/Ultra-Durable™) Looking at [ASUS](https://www.asus.com/ca-en/Motherboards/All-Series/), same shit. Same crap for GPU, either AMD or Nvidia. :~

          I'd rather be phishing!

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          Rick York
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          Exactly how is that ridiculous? To me, ridiculous would be if we had one or two choices of each and they cost a ton of money.

          "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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            (hardware seems to be on-topic today ... ) I'm in the process of upgrading my gaming PC. I need to upgrade CPU/motherboard/RAM and GPU. I currently have a GigaByte motherboard, so, why not look at what they have now : They have [400+ motherboard available](https://www.gigabyte.com/ca/Motherboard/Ultra-Durable™) Looking at [ASUS](https://www.asus.com/ca-en/Motherboards/All-Series/), same shit. Same crap for GPU, either AMD or Nvidia. :~

            I'd rather be phishing!

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            honey the codewitch
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            One of things that works for me in terms of looking is to start with a budget and then with googly help break it down to what i want to spend on what. From there you can narrow with google like - "gigabyte motherboard $180" - and then go to overclock.net i think it is? google "overclock forums" and search for info on that board. It's an overclock site but really good for generally scoping out a board/cpu/ram combo before you buy.

            When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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            • M Maximilien

              (hardware seems to be on-topic today ... ) I'm in the process of upgrading my gaming PC. I need to upgrade CPU/motherboard/RAM and GPU. I currently have a GigaByte motherboard, so, why not look at what they have now : They have [400+ motherboard available](https://www.gigabyte.com/ca/Motherboard/Ultra-Durable™) Looking at [ASUS](https://www.asus.com/ca-en/Motherboards/All-Series/), same shit. Same crap for GPU, either AMD or Nvidia. :~

              I'd rather be phishing!

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              dandy72
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              Meh. Imagine a site that let you build "a car". Not just a particular make or model, and the current year model only, but *everything*, which is what this site seems to let you do. I suspect an unfiltered list would be just as ridiculous. That's how most sites with any sort of catalog are designed; in that sense, I don't think this one is particularly bad. The filters on the left side should trim the list down to a more manageable size. OTOH, it *is* bad in that the filters all seem to result in a generic ASP.NET error. What a bunch of geniuses.

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              • L Lost User

                start from the specs you want (CPU, slots, memory, M2) and work backwards. I found NewEgg best at letting you narrow choices by spec - not saying should buy from them, but their product chooser (check boxes on left hand side) is the best I've found

                after many otherwise intelligent sounding suggestions that achieved nothing the nice folks at Technet said the only solution was to low level format my hard disk then reinstall my signature. Sadly, this still didn't fix the issue!

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                Mike Hankey
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                Over the years I've bought most of my hardware from newegg, great outfit.

                Did a little mechanic work today. Put a rear end in a recliner! JaxCoder.com

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                  Exactly how is that ridiculous? To me, ridiculous would be if we had one or two choices of each and they cost a ton of money.

                  "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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                  Rage
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                  Rick York wrote:

                  Exactly how is that ridiculous?

                  Who needs that many motherboard types ? What a waste of resources, plus these things are already built and packaged, not done on demand, and they will never sell them all.

                  Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                    Over the years I've bought most of my hardware from newegg, great outfit.

                    Did a little mechanic work today. Put a rear end in a recliner! JaxCoder.com

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                    honey the codewitch
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                    frys is pretty good too, as long as you know what you're looking for. I usually find what i want at newegg and then compare with frys

                    When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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                      Rick York wrote:

                      Exactly how is that ridiculous?

                      Who needs that many motherboard types ? What a waste of resources, plus these things are already built and packaged, not done on demand, and they will never sell them all.

                      Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                      Rick York
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                      They sell enough to make it worth their while. All of those motherboard companies have been around for quite some time.

                      "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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                        Rick York wrote:

                        Exactly how is that ridiculous?

                        Who needs that many motherboard types ? What a waste of resources, plus these things are already built and packaged, not done on demand, and they will never sell them all.

                        Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                        kalberts
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                        Rage wrote:

                        Who needs that many motherboard types ?

                        I think I know the solution to that problem: Don't buy them all! Limit yourself to a small selection. You could even go down to a single one! That is my solution when I am given a selection of 120 different breakfast cereals in the supermarket. Or the bewildering selection of car models, in all sorts of colors, engine sizes and what have you. Or, if I buy myself a pocket radio, the huge number of different models on the market. I buy a single model. Then I don't have to worry about all the others.

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                        • M Maximilien

                          (hardware seems to be on-topic today ... ) I'm in the process of upgrading my gaming PC. I need to upgrade CPU/motherboard/RAM and GPU. I currently have a GigaByte motherboard, so, why not look at what they have now : They have [400+ motherboard available](https://www.gigabyte.com/ca/Motherboard/Ultra-Durable™) Looking at [ASUS](https://www.asus.com/ca-en/Motherboards/All-Series/), same shit. Same crap for GPU, either AMD or Nvidia. :~

                          I'd rather be phishing!

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                          Member 9167057
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                          ... and even then, it's hard to find a sensible mainboard. Some "you gotta turn off Windows fast boot" dubious boot optimization, lights, metal coolers on the southbridge, tons of additional chips for this and that functionality (because the dozen or so USB ports supplied by the CPU aren't enough) and whatnot. When looking for a SIMPLE mainboard, I feel like I should quit and be happy with my Switch.

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                          • M Maximilien

                            (hardware seems to be on-topic today ... ) I'm in the process of upgrading my gaming PC. I need to upgrade CPU/motherboard/RAM and GPU. I currently have a GigaByte motherboard, so, why not look at what they have now : They have [400+ motherboard available](https://www.gigabyte.com/ca/Motherboard/Ultra-Durable™) Looking at [ASUS](https://www.asus.com/ca-en/Motherboards/All-Series/), same shit. Same crap for GPU, either AMD or Nvidia. :~

                            I'd rather be phishing!

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                            Massimo Cicognani
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                            Well, the problem may be not so difficult to address... my advice is to start from the CPU and this alone will cut your options by 50%... then think at the features you really need, like wi-fi, USB 3.1, one or two nmve slots, USB-C, RGB lights, and so on... you will quickly reduce your choice to a small bunch of motherboards... If you are upgrading a gaming PC you should already have something in mind...

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                              Over the years I've bought most of my hardware from newegg, great outfit.

                              Did a little mechanic work today. Put a rear end in a recliner! JaxCoder.com

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                              SteakhouseLuke
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                              Newegg is fine, but you have to be careful of some of the 3rd party stuff that sell through them. Some of those companies are not properly "vetted". Had a few bad experiences where the description doesn't match the item you get...

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                              • M Maximilien

                                (hardware seems to be on-topic today ... ) I'm in the process of upgrading my gaming PC. I need to upgrade CPU/motherboard/RAM and GPU. I currently have a GigaByte motherboard, so, why not look at what they have now : They have [400+ motherboard available](https://www.gigabyte.com/ca/Motherboard/Ultra-Durable™) Looking at [ASUS](https://www.asus.com/ca-en/Motherboards/All-Series/), same shit. Same crap for GPU, either AMD or Nvidia. :~

                                I'd rather be phishing!

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                                matblue25
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                                Try pcpartpicker. Start with the CPU. They can limit your choices to compatible components to go with it. Once you get your list of gotta-haves, like x4 M.2, number of slots, back panel connectors, mobo size, etc., the choices really narrow down. Their list of filters is pretty good.

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                                  frys is pretty good too, as long as you know what you're looking for. I usually find what i want at newegg and then compare with frys

                                  When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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                                  charlieg
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                                  be careful with Frys. I've managed to acquire gray market stuff from them.

                                  Charlie Gilley "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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                                    be careful with Frys. I've managed to acquire gray market stuff from them.

                                    Charlie Gilley "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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                                    honey the codewitch
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                                    I only buy hardware from them anyway.

                                    hack everything.

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                                      Try pcpartpicker. Start with the CPU. They can limit your choices to compatible components to go with it. Once you get your list of gotta-haves, like x4 M.2, number of slots, back panel connectors, mobo size, etc., the choices really narrow down. Their list of filters is pretty good.

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                                      Maximilien
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                                      done that and cross-referenced with what was available on newegg.

                                      I'd rather be phishing!

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                                      • M Mike Hankey

                                        Over the years I've bought most of my hardware from newegg, great outfit.

                                        Did a little mechanic work today. Put a rear end in a recliner! JaxCoder.com

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                                        milo xml
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                                        I used to love them as my goto. Now, since they've added the marketplace aspect to their website, they have become less reliable.

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                                          done that and cross-referenced with what was available on newegg.

                                          I'd rather be phishing!

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                                          matblue25
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                                          I use Microcenter sometimes. Their selection can be thin but they can have some good deals on some parts. If there’s a store in town, that’s a bonus. For that matter, you can get a lot of stuff at BestBuy. I’ve never had a problem with anything I’ve gotten at either place. My experience with NewEgg is spotty.

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