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Information has mass?!

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  • S Stylianos Polychroniadis

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    Testable theory suggests information has mass and could account for universe’s dark matter

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    RedDk
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    What's not testable. [?] Oh, I get it, NOT testable. In the immortal words of DD => "looks good"

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    • S Stylianos Polychroniadis

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      Testable theory suggests information has mass and could account for universe’s dark matter

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      Mark_Wallace
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      Aw, Jeeze! Have they decided to reawaken the "information" theories? They were utterly ridiculous when they were first dreamed up; age hasn't improved them. [edit] tpyo corrected [/edit]

      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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      • S Stylianos Polychroniadis

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        Testable theory suggests information has mass and could account for universe’s dark matter

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        Maximilien
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        A fully load HDD weighs more than an empty one. Them'bytes are chubby.

        I'd rather be phishing!

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          A fully load HDD weighs more than an empty one. Them'bytes are chubby.

          I'd rather be phishing!

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          Rick York
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          It makes the disks spin slower when they get full.

          "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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          • S Stylianos Polychroniadis

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            Testable theory suggests information has mass and could account for universe’s dark matter

            ](https://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/1.5126530)[^]

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            Lost User
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            The invariant mass of an electron is approximately 9.109×10−31 kilograms, or 5.489×10−4 atomic mass units. At the same time, a photon cannot have mass and, therefore, weighs nothing. It depends.

            It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food

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            • S Stylianos Polychroniadis

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              Testable theory suggests information has mass and could account for universe’s dark matter

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              Lost User
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              Hi, Relativistic mass[^] is not a new concept. Looks like I mentioned information having mass[^] a few years ago here in the Lounge. Best Wishes, -David Delaune

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                Testable theory suggests information has mass and could account for universe’s dark matter

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                Lost User
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                The idea weighs heavy on my mind.

                Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                  A fully load HDD weighs more than an empty one. Them'bytes are chubby.

                  I'd rather be phishing!

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                  Cp Coder
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                  Quote:

                  It makes the disks spin slower when they get full.

                  Yes. Ones must weigh more than zeroes! :laugh:

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                    The invariant mass of an electron is approximately 9.109×10−31 kilograms, or 5.489×10−4 atomic mass units. At the same time, a photon cannot have mass and, therefore, weighs nothing. It depends.

                    It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food

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                    ZurdoDev
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                    Gerry Schmitz wrote:

                    photon cannot have mass and, therefore, weighs nothing.

                    How much does light weigh? | HowStuffWorks[^]

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                    • S Stylianos Polychroniadis

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                      Testable theory suggests information has mass and could account for universe’s dark matter

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                      DerekT P
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                      Have you never dropped a computer manual on your foot, then?

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                      • S Stylianos Polychroniadis

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                        Testable theory suggests information has mass and could account for universe’s dark matter

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                        OriginalGriff
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                        Somebody is confusing two things: 1: The storage of information with the actual information, which is independent of both the storage media and it's transmission medium. My Date of birth is "information" (of a kind) but it is the same data regardless of the medium it is recorded on (but will have a different mass depending on that medium) 2: That 1's have mass and 0's don't, or that 1's are information, and 0's aren't. All options in a system are required in order to have information: try compressing data by removing all the 0's because "they have no meaning" and you'll see what I mean.

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                        • S Stylianos Polychroniadis

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                          Testable theory suggests information has mass and could account for universe’s dark matter

                          ](https://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/1.5126530)[^]

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                          PIEBALDconsult
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                          Don't confuse information with the various media for storage, retrieval, and transmission. And would copying a file _create_ mass?

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                            Gerry Schmitz wrote:

                            photon cannot have mass and, therefore, weighs nothing.

                            How much does light weigh? | HowStuffWorks[^]

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                            Nevertheless, "lightweight" is a recognized adjective.

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                              Testable theory suggests information has mass and could account for universe’s dark matter

                              ](https://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/1.5126530)[^]

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                              Marc Clifton
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                              a digital informational universe

                              :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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