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  • G glennPattonWork3

    Mornin, I have just been told that our on site IT dept can no longer help with IT problems, there were two networks, on that was locked to nth level the 'Corporate' and one which was a bit looser that I use called the 'Dev' network. On site IT could help with the 'Dev' but not corporate. Worked fine, but at some point that changed and we have to phone a flower when we need help. Who makes these choices before there was mumbles and you got what you needed, now you get told "that is outside of your needs, no!", some one is going to end up sitting on window ledge with a sniper rifle taking pot shots before long! :wtf:

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    Daniel Pfeffer
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    They have sniper rifles in the UK?! :wtf:

    Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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      They have sniper rifles in the UK?! :wtf:

      Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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      glennPattonWork3
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      If you know the right (or wrong!) people...

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      • G glennPattonWork3

        Mornin, I have just been told that our on site IT dept can no longer help with IT problems, there were two networks, on that was locked to nth level the 'Corporate' and one which was a bit looser that I use called the 'Dev' network. On site IT could help with the 'Dev' but not corporate. Worked fine, but at some point that changed and we have to phone a flower when we need help. Who makes these choices before there was mumbles and you got what you needed, now you get told "that is outside of your needs, no!", some one is going to end up sitting on window ledge with a sniper rifle taking pot shots before long! :wtf:

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        RJOberg
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        Slowly working towards that level here too. Next idea is to get rid of the guest network for general use, force vendors to request access for specific time periods weeks in advance, and ban all personal devices from logging into VPN. Also got our two-factor fobs with no information about how to use them because the person responsible for that is out for the time being. :doh:

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        • R RJOberg

          Slowly working towards that level here too. Next idea is to get rid of the guest network for general use, force vendors to request access for specific time periods weeks in advance, and ban all personal devices from logging into VPN. Also got our two-factor fobs with no information about how to use them because the person responsible for that is out for the time being. :doh:

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          glennPattonWork3
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          Two Factor, What a waste of time! As the company I work for is run with 'most' people working remotely using company laptops & phones, my part of the company was office based with desktops not laptops and no company mobiles. We had to use our own mobiles... I was not happy about that. We then got asked questions as to why we ordered fobs and not use our mobiles... :omg:

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          • R RJOberg

            Slowly working towards that level here too. Next idea is to get rid of the guest network for general use, force vendors to request access for specific time periods weeks in advance, and ban all personal devices from logging into VPN. Also got our two-factor fobs with no information about how to use them because the person responsible for that is out for the time being. :doh:

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            Forogar
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            We got our two-factor fobs issued two years before I left the company. I carried on my keyring for those two years but we never activated the system. Then I left and handed in my very worn looking fob that had never even been tested. It turns that the guy setting them up had left and no-one had taken over, and since everyone hated the idea of having to use the fobs, no-one reminded anyone about them! Success?

            - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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              We got our two-factor fobs issued two years before I left the company. I carried on my keyring for those two years but we never activated the system. Then I left and handed in my very worn looking fob that had never even been tested. It turns that the guy setting them up had left and no-one had taken over, and since everyone hated the idea of having to use the fobs, no-one reminded anyone about them! Success?

              - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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              glennPattonWork3
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              You, lucky, lucky so & so! ;)

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              • G glennPattonWork3

                Two Factor, What a waste of time! As the company I work for is run with 'most' people working remotely using company laptops & phones, my part of the company was office based with desktops not laptops and no company mobiles. We had to use our own mobiles... I was not happy about that. We then got asked questions as to why we ordered fobs and not use our mobiles... :omg:

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                glennPattonWork wrote:

                no company mobiles. We had to use our own mobiles

                one place I worked one evening (after hours) the boss tried to call me, called and called and.. till I switched off the phone. next day, "why didn't you answer your phone?" "well because it costs me money, it's my phone, I bought it, pay for it, I decide what I do with it. I was only waiting for a call from my wife anyway so I also wanted to save battery." (this was back in the earlier days when it cost even to answer calls and battery life really sucked - it was only a few years past the bricks.) anyway just a few days later, company announcement: all the local consulting staff now got a "phone allowance" - with the proviso that we remain contactable. (Actually not bad, about 100 staff*.) Me though: I switched off my phone even more often - bought a pager (still a thing back then) - the wife would page me if I should call her / pick her up etc. Office tries to call (phone off): "sorry, battery died." - also still very much a valid thing. (* E&Y consulting - before it was sold off to Acupuncture. - which BTW was still the quite new name that DeToilet and Douche had chosen for their consulting arm after the US govt made accounting firms divest or split off their consulting arms - conflict of interest and all that crap - as if it made any diffeence - PW accounting still "strongly recommends" PW Consulting, DeTiolet still "strongly recommends" Acupuncture... same owners or similar hip joining's.)

                after many otherwise intelligent sounding suggestions that achieved nothing the nice folks at Technet said the only solution was to low level format my hard disk then reinstall my signature. Sadly, this still didn't fix the issue!

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                • R RJOberg

                  Slowly working towards that level here too. Next idea is to get rid of the guest network for general use, force vendors to request access for specific time periods weeks in advance, and ban all personal devices from logging into VPN. Also got our two-factor fobs with no information about how to use them because the person responsible for that is out for the time being. :doh:

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                  I have a co-worker who says that network security won't feel the network is secure until he is prevented from being able to do his job.

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                  • G glennPattonWork3

                    Mornin, I have just been told that our on site IT dept can no longer help with IT problems, there were two networks, on that was locked to nth level the 'Corporate' and one which was a bit looser that I use called the 'Dev' network. On site IT could help with the 'Dev' but not corporate. Worked fine, but at some point that changed and we have to phone a flower when we need help. Who makes these choices before there was mumbles and you got what you needed, now you get told "that is outside of your needs, no!", some one is going to end up sitting on window ledge with a sniper rifle taking pot shots before long! :wtf:

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                    Born free, firewalled to death! All of this security is "fine" until something breaks and nobody can get into it. Some sort of power trip or is it a government agency?

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                    • L Lost User

                      glennPattonWork wrote:

                      no company mobiles. We had to use our own mobiles

                      one place I worked one evening (after hours) the boss tried to call me, called and called and.. till I switched off the phone. next day, "why didn't you answer your phone?" "well because it costs me money, it's my phone, I bought it, pay for it, I decide what I do with it. I was only waiting for a call from my wife anyway so I also wanted to save battery." (this was back in the earlier days when it cost even to answer calls and battery life really sucked - it was only a few years past the bricks.) anyway just a few days later, company announcement: all the local consulting staff now got a "phone allowance" - with the proviso that we remain contactable. (Actually not bad, about 100 staff*.) Me though: I switched off my phone even more often - bought a pager (still a thing back then) - the wife would page me if I should call her / pick her up etc. Office tries to call (phone off): "sorry, battery died." - also still very much a valid thing. (* E&Y consulting - before it was sold off to Acupuncture. - which BTW was still the quite new name that DeToilet and Douche had chosen for their consulting arm after the US govt made accounting firms divest or split off their consulting arms - conflict of interest and all that crap - as if it made any diffeence - PW accounting still "strongly recommends" PW Consulting, DeTiolet still "strongly recommends" Acupuncture... same owners or similar hip joining's.)

                      after many otherwise intelligent sounding suggestions that achieved nothing the nice folks at Technet said the only solution was to low level format my hard disk then reinstall my signature. Sadly, this still didn't fix the issue!

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                      LOL. I turned down a company mobile because I knew what would be expected. A colleague, soiling his pants: We tried calling your mobile, but it kept going to voicemail! Me: Yes, it was turned off. I have it for my convenience.

                      <p><a href="https://github.com/GregUtas/robust-services-core/blob/master/README.md">Robust Services Core</a>
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                      • G glennPattonWork3

                        Mornin, I have just been told that our on site IT dept can no longer help with IT problems, there were two networks, on that was locked to nth level the 'Corporate' and one which was a bit looser that I use called the 'Dev' network. On site IT could help with the 'Dev' but not corporate. Worked fine, but at some point that changed and we have to phone a flower when we need help. Who makes these choices before there was mumbles and you got what you needed, now you get told "that is outside of your needs, no!", some one is going to end up sitting on window ledge with a sniper rifle taking pot shots before long! :wtf:

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                        glennPattonWork wrote:

                        Worked fine, but at some point that changed and we have to phone a flower when we need help.

                        Flowers only accept collect calls.

                        «One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali

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