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You do realize just how non-existent AI actually is in your everyday life, right?

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  • M Mark_Wallace

    I think Marc just misses Clippy.

    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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    Slacker007
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    :laugh:

    It's much easier to enjoy the favor of both friend and foe, and not give a damn who's who. -- Lon Milo DuQuette

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    • M Marc Clifton

      F-ES Sitecore wrote:

      When I open up a bug ticket it JIRA why can't it automatically add "Could you add reproduction steps?" to the comments and re-assign it back to the person that opened it?

      YES!!!! :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

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      The [BOFH](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bastard\_Operator\_From\_Hell) in me would like nothing more than seeing our helpdesk support software automatically reject any customer help request that comes in without a log file attachment. The page users reach to submit support requests asks for it politely, our auto-responder reminds them of the same, yet people keep asking questions that we could immediately answer if we only had included a log. So it just creates some additional back-and-forth email exchanges.

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      • M Mark_Wallace

        They still have the bloody annoying "put the most-used (whatever) at the top" cr@p enabled by default, so that every time you go for something in a menu, it's in a different position.

        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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        dandy72
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        Yeah...not much "I" in that AI. Calling it as such is a bit of a stretch, but somebody still went through the extra steps to write code that does this. Not sure who asked for it.

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        • M Mark_Wallace

          They still have the bloody annoying "put the most-used (whatever) at the top" cr@p enabled by default, so that every time you go for something in a menu, it's in a different position.

          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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          AFell2
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          Or have a dialog that comes up and says "I can see that you have {done these steps in this order} for {this situation}. Would you like for me to make that the default activity for {this situation}?" Give the user some interaction to take the repetitiveness way. A tool works best when it lets the user choose when to take shortcuts.

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          • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

            I wonder when they start using AI to ?help? us in our everyday chores will they include common sense or will it be like real life? :)

            Monday starts Diarrhea awareness week, runs until Friday! JaxCoder.com

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            raddevus
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            Mike Hankey wrote:

            will they include common sense or will it be like real life?

            Brought the Babbage quote rushing to mind:

            Charles Babbage:

            On two occasions I have been asked, – "Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?" ... I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question!

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            • M Marc Clifton

              As in, the number of mouse clicks that I have to do every day, the same mouse clicks, over and over, because there's no "AI" that says "oh look, Marc just launched us, and he always does this..." So, in Postman, just one example - Click on Import, Click on Raw Text, Click the edit box, Copy what's in my paste buffer, Click on Import, click on Send. Seriously. WTF. Where is AI???? Or Outlook, where it doesn't auto-focus to the ONE AND ONLY textbox in some mindless dialog? Sure, it's great that we have self-driving cars. What I really want is AI for my repetitive work life TO TAKE THE REPETITION OUT OF IT!!! And you wonder why I roll my own. Code that is.

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              jeron1
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              Don't fret, it's just a matter of time until

              Marcs AI says:

              I'm sorry Marc, I'm afraid I can't do that...

              "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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              • D dandy72

                The [BOFH](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bastard\_Operator\_From\_Hell) in me would like nothing more than seeing our helpdesk support software automatically reject any customer help request that comes in without a log file attachment. The page users reach to submit support requests asks for it politely, our auto-responder reminds them of the same, yet people keep asking questions that we could immediately answer if we only had included a log. So it just creates some additional back-and-forth email exchanges.

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                raddevus
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                The very fact that an entry like BOFH exists in wikipedia is proof of why this great system has destroyed all other encyclopaedias! :laugh:

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                • M Marc Clifton

                  As in, the number of mouse clicks that I have to do every day, the same mouse clicks, over and over, because there's no "AI" that says "oh look, Marc just launched us, and he always does this..." So, in Postman, just one example - Click on Import, Click on Raw Text, Click the edit box, Copy what's in my paste buffer, Click on Import, click on Send. Seriously. WTF. Where is AI???? Or Outlook, where it doesn't auto-focus to the ONE AND ONLY textbox in some mindless dialog? Sure, it's great that we have self-driving cars. What I really want is AI for my repetitive work life TO TAKE THE REPETITION OUT OF IT!!! And you wonder why I roll my own. Code that is.

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                  kalberts
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                  The fundamental problem in the old James P. Hogan novel "The two faces of tomorrow" is exactly the question of "What if an artificial intelligencence is a little more logical than we appreciate?" The novel is "ages old" (1979), but you'd never guess that if you read it without checking its year of publication. I'd dare to give it my my strong recommendation - after 41 years, it still holds up!

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                  • A AFell2

                    Or have a dialog that comes up and says "I can see that you have {done these steps in this order} for {this situation}. Would you like for me to make that the default activity for {this situation}?" Give the user some interaction to take the repetitiveness way. A tool works best when it lets the user choose when to take shortcuts.

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                    Mark_Wallace
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                    AFell2 wrote:

                    "I can see that you have {done these steps in this order} for {this situation}. Would you like for me to make that the default activity for {this situation}?"

                    That would annoy the Hell out of me. I'm Mark with a "k"; it's Marc with a "c" who wants Clippy back -- we have that on good authority*. * It was on the Internet[^].

                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                    • R raddevus

                      The very fact that an entry like BOFH exists in wikipedia is proof of why this great system has destroyed all other encyclopaedias! :laugh:

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                      dandy72
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                      BOFH is a classic, how could it NOT have its own entry on Wikipedia? :-)

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                      • M Marc Clifton

                        As in, the number of mouse clicks that I have to do every day, the same mouse clicks, over and over, because there's no "AI" that says "oh look, Marc just launched us, and he always does this..." So, in Postman, just one example - Click on Import, Click on Raw Text, Click the edit box, Copy what's in my paste buffer, Click on Import, click on Send. Seriously. WTF. Where is AI???? Or Outlook, where it doesn't auto-focus to the ONE AND ONLY textbox in some mindless dialog? Sure, it's great that we have self-driving cars. What I really want is AI for my repetitive work life TO TAKE THE REPETITION OUT OF IT!!! And you wonder why I roll my own. Code that is.

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                        virang_21
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                        And everyday while doing dishes I wonder where is my robot ?

                        Zen and the art of software maintenance : rm -rf * Maths is like love : a simple idea but it can get complicated.

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                        • M Marc Clifton

                          As in, the number of mouse clicks that I have to do every day, the same mouse clicks, over and over, because there's no "AI" that says "oh look, Marc just launched us, and he always does this..." So, in Postman, just one example - Click on Import, Click on Raw Text, Click the edit box, Copy what's in my paste buffer, Click on Import, click on Send. Seriously. WTF. Where is AI???? Or Outlook, where it doesn't auto-focus to the ONE AND ONLY textbox in some mindless dialog? Sure, it's great that we have self-driving cars. What I really want is AI for my repetitive work life TO TAKE THE REPETITION OUT OF IT!!! And you wonder why I roll my own. Code that is.

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                          Lost User
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                          it's called "modeless". In this case, you're the "mode".

                          It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food

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                          • M Marc Clifton

                            As in, the number of mouse clicks that I have to do every day, the same mouse clicks, over and over, because there's no "AI" that says "oh look, Marc just launched us, and he always does this..." So, in Postman, just one example - Click on Import, Click on Raw Text, Click the edit box, Copy what's in my paste buffer, Click on Import, click on Send. Seriously. WTF. Where is AI???? Or Outlook, where it doesn't auto-focus to the ONE AND ONLY textbox in some mindless dialog? Sure, it's great that we have self-driving cars. What I really want is AI for my repetitive work life TO TAKE THE REPETITION OUT OF IT!!! And you wonder why I roll my own. Code that is.

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                            Member_14736034
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                            Scientists involved in this area of research (since 1950s) never claimed that AI has been achieved. The literature on AI explicitly mentions that AI does not exist, yet. Unfortunately, companies trying to lure (ignorant?) clients using words such as AI, smart, Machine learning, etc. In reality, nothing of these is happening. Even worse, the general public due to the lack of the specific knowledge, the miss-use and ab-use of the language, believes that the new products (whatever they are i.e. television, telephones, mobile, etc) have indeed "some kind of AI". This fact influences research areas on engineering and people acquire funds for research on AI when the outcome has nothing to do with AI (for example image processing); and creating problems to those scientists that are really trying to do research on AI. People read in news that a new product with AI exists and get excited, which this feeds more the companies to promote this idea as being something that is already happening in order to sell their new product that just happens to have "AI". Yes, I would agree with you that AI does not exist. Maybe in the far future but definitely not now.

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                            • M Marc Clifton

                              As in, the number of mouse clicks that I have to do every day, the same mouse clicks, over and over, because there's no "AI" that says "oh look, Marc just launched us, and he always does this..." So, in Postman, just one example - Click on Import, Click on Raw Text, Click the edit box, Copy what's in my paste buffer, Click on Import, click on Send. Seriously. WTF. Where is AI???? Or Outlook, where it doesn't auto-focus to the ONE AND ONLY textbox in some mindless dialog? Sure, it's great that we have self-driving cars. What I really want is AI for my repetitive work life TO TAKE THE REPETITION OUT OF IT!!! And you wonder why I roll my own. Code that is.

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                              Stuart Dootson
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                              Marc Clifton wrote:

                              Where is AI????

                              <cynical>It's helping the people who develop it to make more money - they're not interested in helping you do your things quicker and easier...</cynical>

                              Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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                              • M Marc Clifton

                                As in, the number of mouse clicks that I have to do every day, the same mouse clicks, over and over, because there's no "AI" that says "oh look, Marc just launched us, and he always does this..." So, in Postman, just one example - Click on Import, Click on Raw Text, Click the edit box, Copy what's in my paste buffer, Click on Import, click on Send. Seriously. WTF. Where is AI???? Or Outlook, where it doesn't auto-focus to the ONE AND ONLY textbox in some mindless dialog? Sure, it's great that we have self-driving cars. What I really want is AI for my repetitive work life TO TAKE THE REPETITION OUT OF IT!!! And you wonder why I roll my own. Code that is.

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                                Duke Carey
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                                By "AI" do you mean Actual Intelligence? Damned little of that to go around these days

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                                  Marc Clifton wrote:

                                  Where is AI????

                                  <cynical>It's helping the people who develop it to make more money - they're not interested in helping you do your things quicker and easier...</cynical>

                                  Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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                                  Hooga Booga
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                                  My </cynical> does not usually come that quickly after . 08:00 16:00 </cynical>

                                  Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend; inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -- Groucho Marx

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                                  • M Marc Clifton

                                    As in, the number of mouse clicks that I have to do every day, the same mouse clicks, over and over, because there's no "AI" that says "oh look, Marc just launched us, and he always does this..." So, in Postman, just one example - Click on Import, Click on Raw Text, Click the edit box, Copy what's in my paste buffer, Click on Import, click on Send. Seriously. WTF. Where is AI???? Or Outlook, where it doesn't auto-focus to the ONE AND ONLY textbox in some mindless dialog? Sure, it's great that we have self-driving cars. What I really want is AI for my repetitive work life TO TAKE THE REPETITION OUT OF IT!!! And you wonder why I roll my own. Code that is.

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                                    englebart
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                                    Some of the functionality holes where I have rolled my own. Thank goodness for the Windows SendTo folder! It helps with lots of these issues. Add in a touch of batch, powershell, or C# Console to manage the simple glue. Windows Explorer - You think by Windows 10 that Windows Explorer would know how to store a decent plain text format onto the clipboard! 1. copy the full path of the selected file to the clipboard 2. select a bunch of random files and make them into a list (pop up text file or clipboard) 3. create a listing of the entire folder onto the clipboard. text file processing 1. Eliminate consecutive duplicates 2. Sort and Eliminate duplicates 3. split groups of lines based on a fixed number There is a good article on CP on clipboard utilities that handle some of these cases.

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                                    • F F ES Sitecore

                                      Exactly. When I open up a bug ticket it JIRA why can't it automatically add "Could you add reproduction steps?" to the comments and re-assign it back to the person that opened it?

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                                      agolddog
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                                      To quote one of the Four Yorkshiremen, "Luxury". In addition to getting half-assed (at best) descriptions of what is perceived as a problem, this organization refuses to quit pretending that email is a valid bug tracking tool.

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