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What about hypocrisy ?

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  • G Gluups

    Eddy Vluggen wrote:

    Will this be the year of Linux on the desktop?

    Quite possible : we have to listen to Microsoft's messages. Any difficulty to use Visual Studio on it ?

    Eddy Vluggen wrote:

    There is; I used it. And checked in Private mode to be sure, and yes, there is; at the top of the list. Want a screenshot?

    Well, why not, I do not see it ... How do I send a screen copy, do I host it on cjoint.com ?

    Eddy Vluggen wrote:

    So are you using Linux or Windows to write this post and reply to it?

    I use Windows 10. I have next to see the vendor about a few problems, and then make some place for a Unix partition.

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    Lost User
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    It was fun; didn't seem to make sense to get a mail with "quote selected text", and could almost feel your frustration after.

    Gluups

    Quite possible : we have to listen Microsoft's messages.

    If you work with their product, you'd better.

    Gluups wrote:

    Well, why not, I do not see it ... How do I send a screen copy, do I host it on cjoint.com ?

    Host is anywhere and include a link here.

    Gluups wrote:

    I use Windows 10. I have next to see the vendor about a few problems, and then make some place for a Unix partition.

    You don't have to; install any pendrivelinux-supported distribution on a USB stick and give it a try. As for MS forcing you to login to use your OS; it is their product. If you don't like it, then don't use it. Won't make major companies suddenly switch to Linux; your own choice.

    Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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      A hosts file doesn't stop cookies; it just blocks the URL from loading.

      Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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      Mark_Wallace
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      Eddy Vluggen wrote:

      A hosts file doesn't stop cookies; it just blocks the URL from loading.

      ... And stops your computer downloading any files from that domain. If a site is blocked, you can't get any cookies from that site, and that site can't access your machine to read any cookies.

      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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      • L Lost User

        It was fun; didn't seem to make sense to get a mail with "quote selected text", and could almost feel your frustration after.

        Gluups

        Quite possible : we have to listen Microsoft's messages.

        If you work with their product, you'd better.

        Gluups wrote:

        Well, why not, I do not see it ... How do I send a screen copy, do I host it on cjoint.com ?

        Host is anywhere and include a link here.

        Gluups wrote:

        I use Windows 10. I have next to see the vendor about a few problems, and then make some place for a Unix partition.

        You don't have to; install any pendrivelinux-supported distribution on a USB stick and give it a try. As for MS forcing you to login to use your OS; it is their product. If you don't like it, then don't use it. Won't make major companies suddenly switch to Linux; your own choice.

        Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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        Gluups
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        Eddy Vluggen wrote:

        If you work with their product, you'd better.

        For sure. And if their message is "hurry up to install another system", it is somewhat destabilizing.

        Eddy Vluggen wrote:

        Host is anywhere and include a link here.

        Here it is

        Eddy Vluggen wrote:

        You don't have to; install any pendrivelinux-supported distribution on a USB stick and give it a try.

        That is also a possibility. But maybe I have to change my machine next, and so that is the occasion to reserve some place on the disk.

        Eddy Vluggen wrote:

        As for MS forcing you to login to use your OS; it is their product. If you don't like it, then don't use it. Won't make major companies suddenly switch to Linux; your own choice.

        Sure. I also have a magnifying glass I bought by the optician, but I feel this is not a normal way to access a key part of the system.

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        • G Gluups

          Hello, I received by mail a link to an article called "Microsoft apparently removing ‘Offline Accounts’ settings for international Windows 10 users", that links via codeproject.com. This article alerts that Microsoft puts more and more pressure to create a Microsoft account to be able to start a Windows 10 session, outside complicated procedures. So, the logical conclusion should be we all have to install Unix. Well, OK, I already observed that, by being unable to read the taskbar tooltips above the age of 50. But ... It is impossible to read that article without disabling all scripts, otherwise it is hidden by a panel asking your agreement for "all cookies". So, I search for the usual button to "reject all", but there is none, and considering the number of options, reject all would take at least one hour. Well, the article is interesting, but not to the point of spending one hour before beginning to read it. And you cannot write to onmsft.com, as this would need scripts, and relaunch the problem on top. So, what is your idea : is not the sum up of this article "hypocrisy" ?

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          ZurdoDev
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          Who cares about cookies? Why all the crying over cookies? :doh:

          Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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          • G Gluups

            Hello, I received by mail a link to an article called "Microsoft apparently removing ‘Offline Accounts’ settings for international Windows 10 users", that links via codeproject.com. This article alerts that Microsoft puts more and more pressure to create a Microsoft account to be able to start a Windows 10 session, outside complicated procedures. So, the logical conclusion should be we all have to install Unix. Well, OK, I already observed that, by being unable to read the taskbar tooltips above the age of 50. But ... It is impossible to read that article without disabling all scripts, otherwise it is hidden by a panel asking your agreement for "all cookies". So, I search for the usual button to "reject all", but there is none, and considering the number of options, reject all would take at least one hour. Well, the article is interesting, but not to the point of spending one hour before beginning to read it. And you cannot write to onmsft.com, as this would need scripts, and relaunch the problem on top. So, what is your idea : is not the sum up of this article "hypocrisy" ?

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            Member_14754809
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            Only today he himself got on this article and is indignant! Of course, a Microsoft account is convenient, but there are computers where you do not need it at all! For example, I have a PC that is like a multimedia center, why is MS accounting there ?? I understand the payforessay account that saved me more than once, they write professional essays and it is vital! But here ... I think Microsoft should give up this idea!

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            • W W Balboos GHB

              Try a different browser - with some decent cookie management? I use WaterFox - a fork of FireFox that has a lot of the older features that I prefer - like cookie management that's good for humans. Also allows a lot of the nice plug-ins that became unavailable. My particular settings are Allow cookies from the primary site - erase at end of session (i.e., when I close the browser). Reject all 3rd party cookies. Cookies don't have to be evil - though often they are. Try a cookie manager.

              Ravings en masse^

              "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

              "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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              Dan Neely
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              Waterfox was recently sold to an adware company; and because it's an adware company that claims to respect privacy (a contradiction in terms) they're making it extra obvious that they're a sack of :sunshine:s who lie every time they touch a keyboard or open their mouth. https://www.ghacks.net/2020/02/14/waterfox-web-browser-sold-to-system1/[^]

              Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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              • G Gluups

                Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                If you work with their product, you'd better.

                For sure. And if their message is "hurry up to install another system", it is somewhat destabilizing.

                Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                Host is anywhere and include a link here.

                Here it is

                Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                You don't have to; install any pendrivelinux-supported distribution on a USB stick and give it a try.

                That is also a possibility. But maybe I have to change my machine next, and so that is the occasion to reserve some place on the disk.

                Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                As for MS forcing you to login to use your OS; it is their product. If you don't like it, then don't use it. Won't make major companies suddenly switch to Linux; your own choice.

                Sure. I also have a magnifying glass I bought by the optician, but I feel this is not a normal way to access a key part of the system.

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                Lost User
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                Gluups wrote:

                Here it is

                Green button at the top toggles all.

                Gluups wrote:

                Sure. I also have a magnifying glass I bought by the optician, but I feel this is not a normal way to access a key part of the system.

                You haven't bought a product, but a software-license.

                Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                • D Dan Neely

                  Waterfox was recently sold to an adware company; and because it's an adware company that claims to respect privacy (a contradiction in terms) they're making it extra obvious that they're a sack of :sunshine:s who lie every time they touch a keyboard or open their mouth. https://www.ghacks.net/2020/02/14/waterfox-web-browser-sold-to-system1/[^]

                  Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                  W Balboos GHB
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                  . . . and compared to Chrome browser privacy . . . ?

                  Ravings en masse^

                  "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                  "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                  • W W Balboos GHB

                    . . . and compared to Chrome browser privacy . . . ?

                    Ravings en masse^

                    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                    Dan Neely
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                    W∴ Balboos wrote:

                    . . . and compared to Chrome browser privacy . . . ?

                    . . . a lot fewer eyes watching it for mis-behavior. Which is why both are catastrophically inferior to Mozilla Firefox.

                    Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                    • M Mark_Wallace

                      Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                      A hosts file doesn't stop cookies; it just blocks the URL from loading.

                      ... And stops your computer downloading any files from that domain. If a site is blocked, you can't get any cookies from that site, and that site can't access your machine to read any cookies.

                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                      Lost User
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                      Easier way is simply to not open the webpage, or disallow cookies in the browser. Blocking access to a site just for "cookies" is a little bit weird.

                      Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                      • Z ZurdoDev

                        Who cares about cookies? Why all the crying over cookies? :doh:

                        Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                        DRHuff
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                        Its not the cookies - its the spilled milk that they are crying over.

                        If you can't laugh at yourself - ask me and I will do it for you.

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                        • D DRHuff

                          Its not the cookies - its the spilled milk that they are crying over.

                          If you can't laugh at yourself - ask me and I will do it for you.

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                          ZurdoDev
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                          Milk and cookies. Mmmmmm. :-\

                          Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                          • D Dan Neely

                            W∴ Balboos wrote:

                            . . . and compared to Chrome browser privacy . . . ?

                            . . . a lot fewer eyes watching it for mis-behavior. Which is why both are catastrophically inferior to Mozilla Firefox.

                            Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                            W Balboos GHB
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                            Yeah? Not in my opinon. - Firefox's cookie handling is now substantially more difficult - perhaps deliberately discouraging. - Firefox plug-in's that I use - not that many at all - but were mostly made DOA when they changed their plugin format. Two of three were privacy-enforcing plugins. Hmmmmm. WaterFox has not done the above to me. At least so far.

                            Ravings en masse^

                            "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                            "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                            • L Lost User

                              Easier way is simply to not open the webpage, or disallow cookies in the browser. Blocking access to a site just for "cookies" is a little bit weird.

                              Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                              Mark_Wallace
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                              I don't block sites "for cookies", I block sites because they break the law. I don't knowingly associate with, or give profit or succour to, criminals.

                              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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