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Why do people stock up on toilet paper in crisis situations ?

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  • S Sahir Shah

    If you are starving to death; the last thing you need is toilet paper. Or am I missing something here.

    Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein - Friedrich Nietzsche

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    Think of non-KSS synonyms for "being frightened".

    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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    • S Sahir Shah

      If you are starving to death; the last thing you need is toilet paper. Or am I missing something here.

      Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein - Friedrich Nietzsche

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      Yeah, but the people who do that are so full of shit that they need the extra rolls... :-D

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      • S Sahir Shah

        If you are starving to death; the last thing you need is toilet paper. Or am I missing something here.

        Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein - Friedrich Nietzsche

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        Amarnath S
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        Perhaps, Bitcoin is transferring its worth to toilet paper.

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        • S Sahir Shah

          If you are starving to death; the last thing you need is toilet paper. Or am I missing something here.

          Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein - Friedrich Nietzsche

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          The same reason that the same group of people will go shopping for Christmas food with two trolleys: one for turkey and suchlike, one for bread. After all there are two of them, and the shops are shut for a whole day ... Because they are idiots. My local supermarkets were out of TP for two days - now the shelves are full again and nobody is buying! :laugh:

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          • S Sahir Shah

            If you are starving to death; the last thing you need is toilet paper. Or am I missing something here.

            Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein - Friedrich Nietzsche

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            Lost User
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            weirdest was Australia - first they laughed at the Hong Kong / Singapore people panic buying toilet paper - then they did the same themselves: even more crazy/panic stricken ...the police had to step in and btw: - Australia's toilet paper is nearly all manufactured in South Australia. ... a boon for Caxton (Aus' largest manufacturer), they're running 24 hours. - Singapore / Hong Kong calmed down (quickly): sanity prevailed - not so much Australia - still on.

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            • S Sahir Shah

              If you are starving to death; the last thing you need is toilet paper. Or am I missing something here.

              Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein - Friedrich Nietzsche

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              CodeWraith
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              Thanks for reminding me. I need to stock up on CPUs, memory and diverse I/O chips. Then I can go into Zen mode and survive without food, sleep or any interaction with the dumb contaminated masses for at least half a year. The worst should be over by then.

              I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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                The same reason that the same group of people will go shopping for Christmas food with two trolleys: one for turkey and suchlike, one for bread. After all there are two of them, and the shops are shut for a whole day ... Because they are idiots. My local supermarkets were out of TP for two days - now the shelves are full again and nobody is buying! :laugh:

                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                OriginalGriff wrote:

                Because they are idiots.

                This exactly. The older I get, the more I find appalling the increased number of idiots surrounding me. And their vote counts as much as mine...

                Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                  Thanks for reminding me. I need to stock up on CPUs, memory and diverse I/O chips. Then I can go into Zen mode and survive without food, sleep or any interaction with the dumb contaminated masses for at least half a year. The worst should be over by then.

                  I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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                  OriginalGriff
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                  And coffee. Lots of coffee. Oh, and a generator & diesel - or when the power stations have too few workers fit enough to generate electricity, your zen out will end abruptly. :-D

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                    OriginalGriff wrote:

                    Because they are idiots.

                    This exactly. The older I get, the more I find appalling the increased number of idiots surrounding me. And their vote counts as much as mine...

                    Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                    The scary reality of getting older... :sigh:

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                    • S Sahir Shah

                      If you are starving to death; the last thing you need is toilet paper. Or am I missing something here.

                      Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein - Friedrich Nietzsche

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                      Some self isolating people probably get through a lot of toilet paper / tissues.

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                      • S Sahir Shah

                        If you are starving to death; the last thing you need is toilet paper. Or am I missing something here.

                        Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein - Friedrich Nietzsche

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                        Sahir Shah wrote:

                        If you are starving to death; the last thing you need is toilet paper. Or am I missing something here.

                        If things get that bad, then toiletpaper becomes currency. The amount of toiletpaper people buy amazes me; some buy enough to last half a year. I think many people have no idea how much they actually use in a month. I do stockpile, mostly during sales.

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                        • S Sahir Shah

                          If you are starving to death; the last thing you need is toilet paper. Or am I missing something here.

                          Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein - Friedrich Nietzsche

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                          dandy72
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                          While I agree the situation is ridiculous (I'm no hoarder myself and haven't bought any more than I normally would in any other random period of time), this sounds like a comment coming from someone who's never run out of TP when you needed it the most... It's a bit like oxygen... :-)

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                          • S Sahir Shah

                            If you are starving to death; the last thing you need is toilet paper. Or am I missing something here.

                            Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein - Friedrich Nietzsche

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                            I'm not shaking your hand because of coronavirus. I'm not shaking it because there's no toilet paper.

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                              I'm not shaking your hand because of coronavirus. I'm not shaking it because there's no toilet paper.

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                              You should know to use your left hand, keeping your right hand clean for shaking hands.

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                                While I agree the situation is ridiculous (I'm no hoarder myself and haven't bought any more than I normally would in any other random period of time), this sounds like a comment coming from someone who's never run out of TP when you needed it the most... It's a bit like oxygen... :-)

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                                But how does that happen? How long must a crisis be for you to run out of toilet paper? That can't possibly be something you buy every day, to cover the needs of the evening and the next morning, and that is it! Buying toilet paper for the next few days (and no more) is like buying salt and pepper for the next few days (and no more). Well, of course that is possible, but who would choose to run a hand-to-mouth household to that degree ... with toilet paper?

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                                  And coffee. Lots of coffee. Oh, and a generator & diesel - or when the power stations have too few workers fit enough to generate electricity, your zen out will end abruptly. :-D

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                                  On the more serious side: What could cause you more problems than toilet paper is the water supply breaks down. To keep the ties to the TP: What if you cannot flush the toilet? One of my city planner friends repeatedly stated as the city planner's ideal that "Anybody should be able to take a leak at their back door without offending their neighbours". In a crisis, that could reduce the water requirements significantly. For the more solid issues, it remains. Living in a detached house, I have the opportunity to collect rain water in a cistern. So even in the case of a water outage, I will have an opportunity to flush my toilet. (Actually, I think it is crazy that we ordinarity use drinking quality water to flush our shit down the drain, but that is the only option provided, at least in this country!)

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                                    The same reason that the same group of people will go shopping for Christmas food with two trolleys: one for turkey and suchlike, one for bread. After all there are two of them, and the shops are shut for a whole day ... Because they are idiots. My local supermarkets were out of TP for two days - now the shelves are full again and nobody is buying! :laugh:

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                                    OriginalGriff wrote:

                                    My local supermarkets were out of TP for two days -

                                    1,5 almost 2 weeks here... and I was running out of it... :~ X

                                    OriginalGriff wrote:

                                    now the shelves are full again and nobody is buying! :laugh:

                                    Glad that this moment came here too, endly

                                    M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                      On the more serious side: What could cause you more problems than toilet paper is the water supply breaks down. To keep the ties to the TP: What if you cannot flush the toilet? One of my city planner friends repeatedly stated as the city planner's ideal that "Anybody should be able to take a leak at their back door without offending their neighbours". In a crisis, that could reduce the water requirements significantly. For the more solid issues, it remains. Living in a detached house, I have the opportunity to collect rain water in a cistern. So even in the case of a water outage, I will have an opportunity to flush my toilet. (Actually, I think it is crazy that we ordinarity use drinking quality water to flush our shit down the drain, but that is the only option provided, at least in this country!)

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                                      I believe that some houses in teh UK are being built with Greywater systems[^] included. Me? I have a river at the bottom of the garden, and a bucket on a rope. :laugh:

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                                        But how does that happen? How long must a crisis be for you to run out of toilet paper? That can't possibly be something you buy every day, to cover the needs of the evening and the next morning, and that is it! Buying toilet paper for the next few days (and no more) is like buying salt and pepper for the next few days (and no more). Well, of course that is possible, but who would choose to run a hand-to-mouth household to that degree ... with toilet paper?

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                                        I know, I know...but like I said: I'm not buying any more right now than I normally would in any other random period of time, and I'm not about to change that. I was just making the joke that you won't know how much you'll miss TP until you actually need it and you're out. Not condoning people's current behavior.

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                                          I believe that some houses in teh UK are being built with Greywater systems[^] included. Me? I have a river at the bottom of the garden, and a bucket on a rope. :laugh:

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                                          Around here (Norway) some people install greywater heat recovery systems. (A single guy in a homeowners' web forum repeatedly suggests using water from the shower in the toilet, but he is ignored or turned down.) Heat recovery systems are simple - a buffer tank with a heat exchanger in the outlet. Even simpler: The outlet from shower cabinet heats the cold water supply to your shower mixer. The ovations are rather subdued. Kitchen/dishwasher greywater is full of fats and other particles, clogging up the heat exchanger, and is nutrition for bacteria (and even rats) in the sewage system. (The fat will get to the sewage anyway, but if you cool it down first, it stiffens and sticks to any surface.) Cleaning the system is a task you will hate. As the article says, using the greywater in the toilet would require an expensive filter/desinfecting system. Heat recovery is limited. The shower cabinet heat exchanger has no effect until you are halfway through your shower. It contributes only to the coldwater. Traditional Norwegian water heaters were electrical, keeping 200 liter of water at 90-95°C, so coldwater was 2/3 of the mix. Modern heaters are heat pump driven. For good performance, water is kept at 45°C, maybe 50°C (you must raise it to 70°C weekly to kill legionella). Coldwater is at most 10-15% of the mix. If you catch all the greywater, a lot of it is cold or maybe lukewarm. The mix is lukewarm at best, and really isn't useful as a heat supply for anything. An heat pump hotwater issue: 180 l @ 45°C has less than half the capacity of 200 l @ 95°C. For a large family, it might be on the low side. I will remodel my house this spring, installing a heat pump, but rejected complete greywater heat recovery due to tne maintenance / cleaning issues. Shower / bathtub outlet alone is reasonably "clean", some soap but little fat, and reasonably warm. So I will keep shower greywater separate down to the basement room of the heat pump. A T-valve can either steer it to the sewage, or let it make a detour through my old, discarded 200 liter water heater. The coldwater intake to the heat pump heater will have a detour that is a long spiral tube inside the old tank, for being pre-heated by the shower greywater. When a lot of hot water is consumed, the preheating will help reducing the recovery time for the new heater, making it appear as a bigger tank. The connections to the old tank, both the "warm circuit" greywater and the "cold circuit" coldwater inlet, will be with snap-on couplings so that I can easily d

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