Corona jokes
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He said nothing of the sort.
So what did he say? "If you have to have it explained to you, then you probably should not attempt it" sounds to me quite clearly like "There answer is unambiguous, there is nothing to be explained". If you think he said nothing of that sort, said neither that "Anything goes" nor "This is not to be joked about", then what did he say?
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Is there any question scoring for points on bad taste? Is there anyone who doesn't care about their grandparents and wants some upvotes? Is there anyone who thinks this is worth a joke? :) Yes, it is bad taste. Still, not as much as the people who try to make a profit from it. If you need desinfectant, just buy pure alcohol. It's cheap and abundant.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
If you need desinfectant, just buy pure alcohol. It's cheap and abundant.
On the serious side: In Norway it is certainly not "cheap and abundant". You may know a home destiller, with his illegal activities, but those with quality products are few and far between. The strongest you can buy in the licour stores is 60%, but according to medicals, it should be between 75 and 80% - but not any stronger. Yet... When asking about the effect of antibaceria aids on viruses in Norwegian media, it came out (amidst the general outcry of "Never ever question advice given by health officials!") that various viruses have quite different reactions to acohol and other antibacterial measures. I have searched in vain for specific information about the Corona. Nowhere have I found trustworthy, reliable information from an health authority source saying anything specific about how Corona compares to other viruses regarding alcohol/antibac. Honestly: I would think that this could be easily tested out and reported. I am quite sure that the health autorities do know. But nowhere do they make any Corona specific claims about the effect of alcohol/antibac. Obviously: Making sure that your body is not weakened by any other bacteria infection makes you better prepared to stand up against Corona. So it is not a bad idea to use alcohol/antibac to fight those other threats. But I wouldn't at all be surprised if we, half a year from now, say that "Alcohol/antibac had no real effect on the Corona itself. The 'mechanical' removal, flushing it down the drain through hand washing was significant. The chemical side of alcohol/abtibac: Not so". I just can't understand why health authorites are so reluctant to tell openly how sensitive (or possibly: non-sensitive) Corona ia to alcohol / antibac, compared to other viruses.
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So what did he say? "If you have to have it explained to you, then you probably should not attempt it" sounds to me quite clearly like "There answer is unambiguous, there is nothing to be explained". If you think he said nothing of that sort, said neither that "Anything goes" nor "This is not to be joked about", then what did he say?
Member 7989122 wrote:
"There answer is unambiguous, there is nothing to be explained
Quite the contrary.
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How acceptable are Corona jokes? Which joke is perfectly OK, and where do you cross the line? What would be the equivalent of muttering "I worry about the bomb in my suitcase" aboard an airplane? - something that you just don't do? Is is OK to answer all telephone calls with an initial couch? Can you clear your throat on subway, making a muttered comment about "it is just in my chest"? Can you cough and remind people around you not to get any closer than one meter, as recommended by health authorities? Can you make a drawing of a religious person, usually depicted with a glorie around his head, but now that glorie has grown this bush-like mushrooms? Can you joke about people in panic from corona spreading on the Internet? Can you make generic jokes like "Good thing we will have less ...... when it is over! (Fill in your favorite population group)"? Can you make non-generic, more specific jokes like that? Can you draw Bob (that's his name, isn't it?) with a corona crown on his head? (today it is a hat with flowers) Can you make parodies on statements made by political leaders? Can you draw an old lady laying in a coffin with a corona crown on her head? Is there any corona joke that would be really bad taste?
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Making a pandemic joke is good because everybody gets it!
If you can't laugh at yourself - ask me and I will do it for you.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
If you need desinfectant, just buy pure alcohol. It's cheap and abundant.
On the serious side: In Norway it is certainly not "cheap and abundant". You may know a home destiller, with his illegal activities, but those with quality products are few and far between. The strongest you can buy in the licour stores is 60%, but according to medicals, it should be between 75 and 80% - but not any stronger. Yet... When asking about the effect of antibaceria aids on viruses in Norwegian media, it came out (amidst the general outcry of "Never ever question advice given by health officials!") that various viruses have quite different reactions to acohol and other antibacterial measures. I have searched in vain for specific information about the Corona. Nowhere have I found trustworthy, reliable information from an health authority source saying anything specific about how Corona compares to other viruses regarding alcohol/antibac. Honestly: I would think that this could be easily tested out and reported. I am quite sure that the health autorities do know. But nowhere do they make any Corona specific claims about the effect of alcohol/antibac. Obviously: Making sure that your body is not weakened by any other bacteria infection makes you better prepared to stand up against Corona. So it is not a bad idea to use alcohol/antibac to fight those other threats. But I wouldn't at all be surprised if we, half a year from now, say that "Alcohol/antibac had no real effect on the Corona itself. The 'mechanical' removal, flushing it down the drain through hand washing was significant. The chemical side of alcohol/abtibac: Not so". I just can't understand why health authorites are so reluctant to tell openly how sensitive (or possibly: non-sensitive) Corona ia to alcohol / antibac, compared to other viruses.
Member 7989122 wrote:
In Norway it is certainly not "cheap and abundant".
Alcohol does not necessarily mean ethanol. Most hand sanitizers probably use Isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol which should be available in drug stores, Walmart type stores, or hardware stores (paint department?) for a lot less than Drinkin' Alcolhol. A liter or Vodka around here will set you back at least $40. A liter of Isopropyl is about $7. So cheap, and unless the hoarders have twigged on to it, its probably plentiful, too.
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Making a pandemic joke is good because everybody gets it!
If you can't laugh at yourself - ask me and I will do it for you.
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If you have to have it explained to you, then you probably should not attempt it. This golden rule applies to more things in life than just humor.
Its like if you have to explain the joke then don't bother.
cheers Chris Maunder
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Making a pandemic joke is good because everybody gets it!
If you can't laugh at yourself - ask me and I will do it for you.
Possibly one of the funniest jokes I've heard this week. :-D
cheers Chris Maunder
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Member 7989122 wrote:
In Norway it is certainly not "cheap and abundant".
Alcohol does not necessarily mean ethanol. Most hand sanitizers probably use Isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol which should be available in drug stores, Walmart type stores, or hardware stores (paint department?) for a lot less than Drinkin' Alcolhol. A liter or Vodka around here will set you back at least $40. A liter of Isopropyl is about $7. So cheap, and unless the hoarders have twigged on to it, its probably plentiful, too.
Yet we know nothing about the real effect of neither ehanol nor isoproly on Corona. Is one effective, the other one not? Is either "marginally" effective, the other one "immediately"? Briefly stated: There is no reliable information about how corona reacts to either ethanol nor to isopropyl. I am really surprised that there isn't. I would think that it would be quite simple to come up with something Corona-specific to justify the one or the other. I gemerally trust health authorited. But when the just hammer in "Use antibac! Use alcohol", and when you ask them for concrete evidence that it has a real effect on Corona (not on national health in general as seen in a ten year perspective), then I start questioning it. I have learnt that such questioning is BAD, and should not be brought to the public. Nevertheless, inside my own enclosed cave, I dare to ask myself: If they can't display the effect on the corona, why are they then pushing it so intensively?
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Possibly one of the funniest jokes I've heard this week. :-D
cheers Chris Maunder
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Making a pandemic joke is good because everybody gets it!
If you can't laugh at yourself - ask me and I will do it for you.
FTW!
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Member 7989122 wrote:
"There answer is unambiguous, there is nothing to be explained
Quite the contrary.
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Its like if you have to explain the joke then don't bother.
cheers Chris Maunder
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FTW!
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
If you need desinfectant, just buy pure alcohol. It's cheap and abundant.
On the serious side: In Norway it is certainly not "cheap and abundant". You may know a home destiller, with his illegal activities, but those with quality products are few and far between. The strongest you can buy in the licour stores is 60%, but according to medicals, it should be between 75 and 80% - but not any stronger. Yet... When asking about the effect of antibaceria aids on viruses in Norwegian media, it came out (amidst the general outcry of "Never ever question advice given by health officials!") that various viruses have quite different reactions to acohol and other antibacterial measures. I have searched in vain for specific information about the Corona. Nowhere have I found trustworthy, reliable information from an health authority source saying anything specific about how Corona compares to other viruses regarding alcohol/antibac. Honestly: I would think that this could be easily tested out and reported. I am quite sure that the health autorities do know. But nowhere do they make any Corona specific claims about the effect of alcohol/antibac. Obviously: Making sure that your body is not weakened by any other bacteria infection makes you better prepared to stand up against Corona. So it is not a bad idea to use alcohol/antibac to fight those other threats. But I wouldn't at all be surprised if we, half a year from now, say that "Alcohol/antibac had no real effect on the Corona itself. The 'mechanical' removal, flushing it down the drain through hand washing was significant. The chemical side of alcohol/abtibac: Not so". I just can't understand why health authorites are so reluctant to tell openly how sensitive (or possibly: non-sensitive) Corona ia to alcohol / antibac, compared to other viruses.
Member 7989122 wrote:
it should be between 75 and 80%
Stroh rum, 80%. Sticky stuff though.
Member 7989122 wrote:
So it is not a bad idea to use alcohol/antibac to fight those other threats. But I wouldn't at all be surprised if we, half a year from now, say that "Alcohol/antibac had no real effect on the Corona itself.
I would be. Similar to news that Corona can survive on silver.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Unless the explanation is funnier than the original joke. How was that Descarte joke again?
Descartes walks into a bar and orders a drink. When he finishes his drink, the bartender asks him if he would like another. Descartes replies, I think not, and disappears.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
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"Free the whales"? :confused:
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
If you need desinfectant, just buy pure alcohol. It's cheap and abundant.
On the serious side: In Norway it is certainly not "cheap and abundant". You may know a home destiller, with his illegal activities, but those with quality products are few and far between. The strongest you can buy in the licour stores is 60%, but according to medicals, it should be between 75 and 80% - but not any stronger. Yet... When asking about the effect of antibaceria aids on viruses in Norwegian media, it came out (amidst the general outcry of "Never ever question advice given by health officials!") that various viruses have quite different reactions to acohol and other antibacterial measures. I have searched in vain for specific information about the Corona. Nowhere have I found trustworthy, reliable information from an health authority source saying anything specific about how Corona compares to other viruses regarding alcohol/antibac. Honestly: I would think that this could be easily tested out and reported. I am quite sure that the health autorities do know. But nowhere do they make any Corona specific claims about the effect of alcohol/antibac. Obviously: Making sure that your body is not weakened by any other bacteria infection makes you better prepared to stand up against Corona. So it is not a bad idea to use alcohol/antibac to fight those other threats. But I wouldn't at all be surprised if we, half a year from now, say that "Alcohol/antibac had no real effect on the Corona itself. The 'mechanical' removal, flushing it down the drain through hand washing was significant. The chemical side of alcohol/abtibac: Not so". I just can't understand why health authorites are so reluctant to tell openly how sensitive (or possibly: non-sensitive) Corona ia to alcohol / antibac, compared to other viruses.
Since I live in a biomedical cluster I have some friends/acquaintances that are in the knowledge of the hows and whys. (One professor and two doctors in microbiology) And still I haven't been able to get a clear yes or no answer. Anyway, here goes the theory: In the case of bacteria you want to desiccate them and for that the optimum percentage is between 70-85% ethanol. Corona viruses are encased in a lipid shell. Lipids are waterproof but soluble in alcohol. So here the aim is for dissolving them, which means, go for strength. How efficient is it? This is where it gets blurry. Consensus seems to be that washing your hands is probably more efficient, but it doesn't hurt to use alcohol as well. Unless you overdo it and get dry skin with cracks in it where virii and bacteria can hide.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
