RANT: John Simmons and all that
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Miszou wrote: What's really surprising is that most people here find John "cute" in some grotesque way. Any community worth its salt needs someone like John. In the same way we need Mr Wulff to pin down the "unstable youth" extreme (and the PC extreme, depending on the day) we need John to anchor the "blunt old man" extreme. How could i rest assured in the knowledge that i'm comfortably Bland and Mainstream without people standing far to either side? A lone spike in the middle isn't nearly as fun as a bell curve...
Shog9
So much he don't understand, Just might never make it to a man...
Everyone can have their opinion - I've nothing against that. What bothers me is that it's somehow cool to be rude. It isn't - it's just rude. Any normal 10 year old can be offensive - it's when they're polite that other people pay attention... You can still have your "blunt old man". What we have here is an "obnoxious old man", an entirely different - and far less likeable - entity.
There are 10 kinds of people - those that get binary and those that don't.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: but I can insult millions with a single phrase. :-) Make a cow-joke or a bindi-joke and you get the Indian Hindus. Make an Allah-joke and you get the Muslims. Make a joke about Jesus's mom's virginity and you get the Christians. Make a Buddha joke and you get the Buddhists. Make a joke about US not finding WMD in Iraq and you get the Americans. How would you go about insulting the atheists at CP? I am just curious, that's all. Nish
"I'm a bit bored at the moment so I'm thinking about writing a new programming language" - Colin Davies My book :- Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]
There are two group that I doubt John would insult, the Rationalists/Realists and Agnostics. Rationalists/Realists - It seems like John is one. Agnostics - They tie in so closely with the Rationalists. But, I've been known to be wrong.:) What am I? A geek mixed with something between a Rationalists and Agnostic.
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Dude, just stay in the soapbox, its where you belong. Don't pick on the sensitive Loungers, cause I can't stand all the belly-aching! And to Vikram and others who vote 1's to all his (and mine) posts: Ignore him! He eats that crap for breakfast! (Yes, John eats crap for breakfast. Does that surprise you?)
Jason Henderson
"If you are going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill
Jason Henderson wrote: (Yes, John eats crap for breakfast. Does that surprise you?) Not at all considering the shit he posts. I've no time for bigots, and he proved he's one a long time ago. :mad: Anna :rose: Homepage | My life in tears "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: but I can insult millions with a single phrase. :-) Make a cow-joke or a bindi-joke and you get the Indian Hindus. Make an Allah-joke and you get the Muslims. Make a joke about Jesus's mom's virginity and you get the Christians. Make a Buddha joke and you get the Buddhists. Make a joke about US not finding WMD in Iraq and you get the Americans. How would you go about insulting the atheists at CP? I am just curious, that's all. Nish
"I'm a bit bored at the moment so I'm thinking about writing a new programming language" - Colin Davies My book :- Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]
"Make a cow-joke or a bindi-joke and you get the Indian Hindus. Make an Allah-joke and you get the Muslims. Make a joke about Jesus's mom's virginity and you get the Christians. Make a Buddha joke and you get the Buddhists. Make a joke about US not finding WMD in Iraq and you get the Americans." Make a redneck joke he gets, hmm, himself ;-)
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Jason Henderson wrote: (Yes, John eats crap for breakfast. Does that surprise you?) Not at all considering the shit he posts. I've no time for bigots, and he proved he's one a long time ago. :mad: Anna :rose: Homepage | My life in tears "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In
Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: I've no time for bigots :) Everyone is someone else's bigot. Assuming, 1) it's the Internet, not RL, and 2) i'm drunk and 3) typing is fun, then: Which is worse, Intolerance, Intolerance of Intolerance, or Interolance of People Intolerant of Intolerance?
Shog9
So much he don't understand, Just might never make it to a man...
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Everyone can have their opinion - I've nothing against that. What bothers me is that it's somehow cool to be rude. It isn't - it's just rude. Any normal 10 year old can be offensive - it's when they're polite that other people pay attention... You can still have your "blunt old man". What we have here is an "obnoxious old man", an entirely different - and far less likeable - entity.
There are 10 kinds of people - those that get binary and those that don't.
Tell you the truth most of what John says, or least the way goes about, is how I am with my buddies when we go out drinking, or when we're at work for that matter. It's crass, sometimes obnoxious, sometimes a little close to the truth, sometimes a bit extreme, but taken as some bullshit from the "peanut gallery" it's entertaining most of the time.:-D BW "I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific." - Lily Tomlin
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Waaah fuckin waaahhhhh. Stop whining. It started out as a joke, and it turns out few people have a sense of humor. Jason Henderson wrote: Don't pick on the sensitive Loungers, cause I can't stand all the belly-aching! I'll "pick on" anyone I choose, regardless of whether or not it bothers you or anyone else. It was certainly more entertaining than posts about "guess that quote". You don't like what I write, vote it a 1, like your buddies do. However, don't snivel and cry. You made a valiant effort at trying to insult me, but I can insult millions with a single phrase. You better practice up some... ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends
:wtf: John, you need to learn to know when to shut up. You're making yourself look like an idiot. I know you don't care. John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: I'll "pick on" anyone I choose, regardless of whether or not it bothers you or anyone else. It was certainly more entertaining than posts about "guess that quote". I really don't care who you pick on, but do it HERE. Don't piss Chris off so much that you get banned (if he'd even do that). John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: like your buddies do Apparently they don't teach you how to read in red-neck school. I was practically defending you even though you acted like a total retard. John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: However, don't snivel and cry. You made a valiant effort at trying to insult me, but I can insult millions with a single phrase. You better practice up some... I'm not as naive as some. I won't play your game.
Jason Henderson
"If you are going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill
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Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: I've no time for bigots :) Everyone is someone else's bigot. Assuming, 1) it's the Internet, not RL, and 2) i'm drunk and 3) typing is fun, then: Which is worse, Intolerance, Intolerance of Intolerance, or Interolance of People Intolerant of Intolerance?
Shog9
So much he don't understand, Just might never make it to a man...
Just to let you know, I really don't care what he writes, but he should follow the rules of the site and do it here in the soapbox. Its his native territory.
Jason Henderson
"If you are going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill
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Dude, just stay in the soapbox, its where you belong. Don't pick on the sensitive Loungers, cause I can't stand all the belly-aching! And to Vikram and others who vote 1's to all his (and mine) posts: Ignore him! He eats that crap for breakfast! (Yes, John eats crap for breakfast. Does that surprise you?)
Jason Henderson
"If you are going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill
I don't mind John, he's entertaining, when I don't approve of his writting, I just don't answer back.
Maximilien Lincourt For success one must aquire one's self
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Just to let you know, I really don't care what he writes, but he should follow the rules of the site and do it here in the soapbox. Its his native territory.
Jason Henderson
"If you are going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill
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Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: I've no time for bigots :) Everyone is someone else's bigot. Assuming, 1) it's the Internet, not RL, and 2) i'm drunk and 3) typing is fun, then: Which is worse, Intolerance, Intolerance of Intolerance, or Interolance of People Intolerant of Intolerance?
Shog9
So much he don't understand, Just might never make it to a man...
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Dude, just stay in the soapbox, its where you belong. Don't pick on the sensitive Loungers, cause I can't stand all the belly-aching! And to Vikram and others who vote 1's to all his (and mine) posts: Ignore him! He eats that crap for breakfast! (Yes, John eats crap for breakfast. Does that surprise you?)
Jason Henderson
"If you are going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill
heh, Jason you do realise that this soapbox formerly called the rant and rave was made almost for John's benefit. The contoversy that characters like John cause are what gives the who;e site its charm. Regardz Colin J Davies
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heh, Jason you do realise that this soapbox formerly called the rant and rave was made almost for John's benefit. The contoversy that characters like John cause are what gives the who;e site its charm. Regardz Colin J Davies
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**The minion's version of "Catch :bob: "It's a real shame that people as stupid as you can work out how to use a computer. said by Christian Graus in the Soapbox
Colin Davies wrote: heh, Jason you do realise that this soapbox formerly called the rant and rave was made almost for John's benefit. The contoversy that characters like John cause are what gives the who;e site its charm. That was my point entirely. All I asked was that he stay here and not cause trouble for the babes in the Lounge. He then turned around and attempted to insult me. :confused: Childish, vindictive behavior is not charming, IMO, but if that's what John wants to call a victorious insult, then so be it. BTW, Chris chastised him just a couple of days ago in the Lounge. I'd rather he stick around than be banished (though I doubt Chris would do that).
Jason Henderson
"If you are going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill
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Colin Davies wrote: heh, Jason you do realise that this soapbox formerly called the rant and rave was made almost for John's benefit. The contoversy that characters like John cause are what gives the who;e site its charm. That was my point entirely. All I asked was that he stay here and not cause trouble for the babes in the Lounge. He then turned around and attempted to insult me. :confused: Childish, vindictive behavior is not charming, IMO, but if that's what John wants to call a victorious insult, then so be it. BTW, Chris chastised him just a couple of days ago in the Lounge. I'd rather he stick around than be banished (though I doubt Chris would do that).
Jason Henderson
"If you are going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill
Okay, we are in some sort of agreement. I guess the "C# India post" in the lounge was too much for John to resist. :-) Jason Henderson wrote: He then turned around and attempted to insult me. That is normal :-) the mere fact that John has bothered to insult you is an honor. Many people visit CP and miss out on being insulted by him. Jason Henderson wrote: Childish, vindictive behavior is not charming, IMO, To me it's just "text" and to read, real emotions and sentiment into CP forum messages, can lead people into delusional states. Sarcasm, criticisms , rhetoric and cynicism etc don't translate well. Jason Henderson wrote: BTW, Chris chastised him just a couple of days ago in the Lounge. Probably with good reason once again, although Chris seems to think he owns CP now, which is a bit of a worry. Regardz Colin J Davies
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Jason Henderson wrote: (Yes, John eats crap for breakfast. Does that surprise you?) Not at all considering the shit he posts. I've no time for bigots, and he proved he's one a long time ago. :mad: Anna :rose: Homepage | My life in tears "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In
I don't think "bigot" is the right word for John. The "Bi" implies that he complains on both sides of the arguement. He's just simply offensive. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies
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I don't think "bigot" is the right word for John. The "Bi" implies that he complains on both sides of the arguement. He's just simply offensive. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies
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Colin Davies wrote: He's just simply offensive He's not offensive at all! He employs a caustic form of humor in the tradition of Lenny Bruce, George Carlin, et al. Those who wear their feelings on their cuffs will get bent by it, but they are fragile beings who will be hurt by life itself. A pity, but it would be contra-survival for the specie to protect them from such injuries.
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What's really surprising is that most people here find John "cute" in some grotesque way. How many times have you read somthing like "Haha, that's just John", or "That was unusually polite, John"? Many other boards would ban him for some of his comments. Anyway, just thought I'd add some fuel to the fire. ;P
There are 10 kinds of people - those that get binary and those that don't.
John isn't "cute", he's <Fat Bastard voice>dead sexy!</Fat Bastard voice>. Seriously, I hardly ever find him cute, and sometimes I even find him rude and obnoxious. I don't agree with a lot of what he say but I do enjoy having him around, he definitely keeps things interesting around here. Brad Jennings "You're mom is nice. Mind if I go out with her?" - Jörgen Sigvardsson
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Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: I've no time for bigots :) Everyone is someone else's bigot. Assuming, 1) it's the Internet, not RL, and 2) i'm drunk and 3) typing is fun, then: Which is worse, Intolerance, Intolerance of Intolerance, or Interolance of People Intolerant of Intolerance?
Shog9
So much he don't understand, Just might never make it to a man...
Shog9 wrote: i'm drunk I guess I'll have to have to answer your question tomorrow night.:-D Brad Jennings "You're mom is nice. Mind if I go out with her?" - Jörgen Sigvardsson
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"Make a cow-joke or a bindi-joke and you get the Indian Hindus. Make an Allah-joke and you get the Muslims. Make a joke about Jesus's mom's virginity and you get the Christians. Make a Buddha joke and you get the Buddhists. Make a joke about US not finding WMD in Iraq and you get the Americans." Make a redneck joke he gets, hmm, himself ;-)
abc wrote: Make a redneck joke he gets, hmm, himself Q. How do you circumcise a redneck? A. Kick his sister in the jaw. Brad Jennings "You're mom is nice. Mind if I go out with her?" - Jörgen Sigvardsson
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What's really surprising is that most people here find John "cute" in some grotesque way. How many times have you read somthing like "Haha, that's just John", or "That was unusually polite, John"? Many other boards would ban him for some of his comments. Anyway, just thought I'd add some fuel to the fire. ;P
There are 10 kinds of people - those that get binary and those that don't.
It all depends on your sense of humour, some people are just too sensitive. They'd not last five minutes in some of the places I've worked. You've got to learn to ignore the stuff that annoys you and laugh at the funny stuff. Michael 'War is at best barbarism...Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, more vengeance, more desolation. War is hell.' - General William Sherman, 1879