RANT: John Simmons and all that
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"Make a cow-joke or a bindi-joke and you get the Indian Hindus. Make an Allah-joke and you get the Muslims. Make a joke about Jesus's mom's virginity and you get the Christians. Make a Buddha joke and you get the Buddhists. Make a joke about US not finding WMD in Iraq and you get the Americans." Make a redneck joke he gets, hmm, himself ;-)
abc wrote: Make a redneck joke he gets, hmm, himself Q. How do you circumcise a redneck? A. Kick his sister in the jaw. Brad Jennings "You're mom is nice. Mind if I go out with her?" - Jörgen Sigvardsson
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What's really surprising is that most people here find John "cute" in some grotesque way. How many times have you read somthing like "Haha, that's just John", or "That was unusually polite, John"? Many other boards would ban him for some of his comments. Anyway, just thought I'd add some fuel to the fire. ;P
There are 10 kinds of people - those that get binary and those that don't.
It all depends on your sense of humour, some people are just too sensitive. They'd not last five minutes in some of the places I've worked. You've got to learn to ignore the stuff that annoys you and laugh at the funny stuff. Michael 'War is at best barbarism...Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, more vengeance, more desolation. War is hell.' - General William Sherman, 1879
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: but I can insult millions with a single phrase. :-) Make a cow-joke or a bindi-joke and you get the Indian Hindus. Make an Allah-joke and you get the Muslims. Make a joke about Jesus's mom's virginity and you get the Christians. Make a Buddha joke and you get the Buddhists. Make a joke about US not finding WMD in Iraq and you get the Americans. How would you go about insulting the atheists at CP? I am just curious, that's all. Nish
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I think we should have a new competition, who can upset the most sections of society with a joke. ;-) Michael 'War is at best barbarism...Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, more vengeance, more desolation. War is hell.' - General William Sherman, 1879
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abc wrote: Make a redneck joke he gets, hmm, himself Q. How do you circumcise a redneck? A. Kick his sister in the jaw. Brad Jennings "You're mom is nice. Mind if I go out with her?" - Jörgen Sigvardsson
Haha! Man, that was bad! :-D -- "It's a condition of mental divergence, I find myself on the planet Olgo part of a intellectual elite, prepared to subjugate the barbarian hordes on Pluto, but even though this is a totally convincing reality for me in every way, nevertheless Olgo is actually a construct on my psychee. I am mentally divergent in that I am escaping certain unnamed realities that plague my life here."
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Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: I've no time for bigots :) Everyone is someone else's bigot. Assuming, 1) it's the Internet, not RL, and 2) i'm drunk and 3) typing is fun, then: Which is worse, Intolerance, Intolerance of Intolerance, or Interolance of People Intolerant of Intolerance?
Shog9
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Stop messing with my brain! -- "It's a condition of mental divergence, I find myself on the planet Olgo part of a intellectual elite, prepared to subjugate the barbarian hordes on Pluto, but even though this is a totally convincing reality for me in every way, nevertheless Olgo is actually a construct on my psychee. I am mentally divergent in that I am escaping certain unnamed realities that plague my life here."
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Colin Davies wrote: He's just simply offensive He's not offensive at all! He employs a caustic form of humor in the tradition of Lenny Bruce, George Carlin, et al. Those who wear their feelings on their cuffs will get bent by it, but they are fragile beings who will be hurt by life itself. A pity, but it would be contra-survival for the specie to protect them from such injuries.
"Ask not for whom the bell tolls;
It tolls for thee..."I thought that too at first, but then I saw through him. He's not trying to be humorous in the way he addresses me, he's trying to be offensive. He's a bigot, pure and simple. No matter how elloquent, that deserves zero respect. Anna :rose: Homepage | My life in tears "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In
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Okay, we are in some sort of agreement. I guess the "C# India post" in the lounge was too much for John to resist. :-) Jason Henderson wrote: He then turned around and attempted to insult me. That is normal :-) the mere fact that John has bothered to insult you is an honor. Many people visit CP and miss out on being insulted by him. Jason Henderson wrote: Childish, vindictive behavior is not charming, IMO, To me it's just "text" and to read, real emotions and sentiment into CP forum messages, can lead people into delusional states. Sarcasm, criticisms , rhetoric and cynicism etc don't translate well. Jason Henderson wrote: BTW, Chris chastised him just a couple of days ago in the Lounge. Probably with good reason once again, although Chris seems to think he owns CP now, which is a bit of a worry. Regardz Colin J Davies
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Colin Davies wrote: That is normal the mere fact that John has bothered to insult you is an honor. Many people visit CP and miss out on being insulted by him. Err no. I don't consider it an honour to be insulted by him. Quite the opposite. He's a sad, offensive, little man. I wouldn't miss him any more than Sergio. Anna :rose: Homepage | My life in tears "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In
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Tell you the truth most of what John says, or least the way goes about, is how I am with my buddies when we go out drinking, or when we're at work for that matter. It's crass, sometimes obnoxious, sometimes a little close to the truth, sometimes a bit extreme, but taken as some bullshit from the "peanut gallery" it's entertaining most of the time.:-D BW "I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific." - Lily Tomlin
Yeah, but your buddies don't mean it to hurt you, do they? He does much of the time. Read a little closer. Anna :rose: Homepage | My life in tears "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In
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Everyone can have their opinion - I've nothing against that. What bothers me is that it's somehow cool to be rude. It isn't - it's just rude. Any normal 10 year old can be offensive - it's when they're polite that other people pay attention... You can still have your "blunt old man". What we have here is an "obnoxious old man", an entirely different - and far less likeable - entity.
There are 10 kinds of people - those that get binary and those that don't.
Miszou wrote: What bothers me is that it's somehow cool to be rude. It isn't - it's just rude. Any normal 10 year old can be offensive - it's when they're polite that other people pay attention... Amen to that. Mr Simmons has done his best to upset me - presumably because he can't handle the fact that I'm transsexual. Maybe his "malsculine pride" feels threatened - I don't know. Quite honestly it hurts, and it's uncalled for. Anna :rose: Homepage | My life in tears "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In
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Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: I've no time for bigots :) Everyone is someone else's bigot. Assuming, 1) it's the Internet, not RL, and 2) i'm drunk and 3) typing is fun, then: Which is worse, Intolerance, Intolerance of Intolerance, or Interolance of People Intolerant of Intolerance?
Shog9
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I'm not drunk, and I'm deadly serious. He's done his utmost to try to hurt me - and I don't consider it "fun" or "sport". Conduct like that is unacceptable in the workplace, so why should it be applauded here? Anna :rose: Homepage | My life in tears "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In
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Yeah, but your buddies don't mean it to hurt you, do they? He does much of the time. Read a little closer. Anna :rose: Homepage | My life in tears "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In
Oh, you're just mad because I said you don't look anything like a girl. Get over it already. I have. ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends
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Miszou wrote: What bothers me is that it's somehow cool to be rude. It isn't - it's just rude. Any normal 10 year old can be offensive - it's when they're polite that other people pay attention... Amen to that. Mr Simmons has done his best to upset me - presumably because he can't handle the fact that I'm transsexual. Maybe his "malsculine pride" feels threatened - I don't know. Quite honestly it hurts, and it's uncalled for. Anna :rose: Homepage | My life in tears "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In
First, if you want to claim you have a mental problem that causes you to think you're a girl, and if you want to bring it up here, you should be ready for a certain amount of ridicule, and outright insults. Second, if you think just because *you're* okay with it means that everyone else has to be, you should consider scheduling more time with your shrink. Third, I'm not threatened by anything you do or the reasons you do it, but it must be mighty comforting to be able to tell that to yourself, so keep on keepin' on. Fourth, if I had done my best to upset you, you would have stopped coming here long ago. And you can bet that I've said many things here that many other people would like to say, but are thankful that I've stepped up to say it so they don't have to. Finally, I generally ignore your posts unless you address me specifically, or that other instance where you chimed in about why so few females are programmers, so don't be starting any bullshit based on outright fabrications. ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: but I can insult millions with a single phrase. :-) Make a cow-joke or a bindi-joke and you get the Indian Hindus. Make an Allah-joke and you get the Muslims. Make a joke about Jesus's mom's virginity and you get the Christians. Make a Buddha joke and you get the Buddhists. Make a joke about US not finding WMD in Iraq and you get the Americans. How would you go about insulting the atheists at CP? I am just curious, that's all. Nish
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I gave that some thought, but I can't think of anything specifically about aethiests. I need material to work with (they have to have said something absurd, or that strikes me as a possible pooint of humor). Since I don't think organized religion is necessary for me, I don't see it as insulting religions, but you gotta admit that there's a lot of weird ass things that the various religions think are "divinations from god/your favorite deity". Everything from what food to eat to how to dress, and even that you can't use modern machines. I mean seriously, that's ridiculous. ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: I'll "pick on" anyone I choose, regardless of whether or not it bothers you or anyone else. You have some serious personal issues don't you?
There are 10 kinds of people - those that get binary and those that don't.
Not at all. It wasn't my choice of words. ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends
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Everyone has a different sort of kid sister i guess... :laugh:
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I've already described mine, and for the record, I didn't do ONE SINGLE THING in the lounge in either of the two threads we're talking about that would make them a soapbox topic. ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends
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First, if you want to claim you have a mental problem that causes you to think you're a girl, and if you want to bring it up here, you should be ready for a certain amount of ridicule, and outright insults. Second, if you think just because *you're* okay with it means that everyone else has to be, you should consider scheduling more time with your shrink. Third, I'm not threatened by anything you do or the reasons you do it, but it must be mighty comforting to be able to tell that to yourself, so keep on keepin' on. Fourth, if I had done my best to upset you, you would have stopped coming here long ago. And you can bet that I've said many things here that many other people would like to say, but are thankful that I've stepped up to say it so they don't have to. Finally, I generally ignore your posts unless you address me specifically, or that other instance where you chimed in about why so few females are programmers, so don't be starting any bullshit based on outright fabrications. ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: First, if you want to claim you have a mental problem that causes you to think you're a girl, and if you want to bring it up here, you should be ready for a certain amount of ridicule, and outright insults. Maybe if you live in 1960s midwest America. I don't, and times have changed, or haven't you noticed? Current studies indicate that intense dysphoria affects 1:250 to 1:500 of the population. Intersex conditions affect 1:1000. For most, the recognised treatment is reassignment to the gender of the mind, not the sex of the body. It's routine, and believe me I'm not the only one on CP. The others keep their heads down. I don't blame them, but it's not my way. John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Second, if you think just because *you're* okay with it means that everyone else has to be, you should consider scheduling more time with your shrink. Funnily enough, you're the only one I've encountered who isn't. Odd, that. John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Third, I'm not threatened by anything you do or the reasons you do it, but it must be mighty comforting to be able to tell that to yourself, so keep on keepin' on. Really? I'd love to see what a psych would make of you. :laugh: John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Fourth, if I had done my best to upset you, you would have stopped coming here long ago. And you can bet that I've said many things here that many other people would like to say, but are thankful that I've stepped up to say it so they don't have to. You obviously don't know me. I don't give in to intimidation, so try your hardest, farm boy. John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Finally, I generally ignore your posts unless you address me specifically, or that other instance where you chimed in about why so few females are programmers, so don't be starting any bullshit based on outright fabrications. Well bullshit is your arena of expertise, so I'll leave that to you. You're good at it. Anna :rose: Homepage | My life in tears "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the
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I'm not drunk, and I'm deadly serious. He's done his utmost to try to hurt me - and I don't consider it "fun" or "sport". Conduct like that is unacceptable in the workplace, so why should it be applauded here? Anna :rose: Homepage | My life in tears "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In
Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: I'm deadly serious OH MY GOD!!! Now I have to find a place to hide! The evil transexual is deadly serious! Get real moron. Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: He's done his utmost to try to hurt me - and I don't consider it "fun" or "sport". I'll wait until you've read my earlier post regarding this. No point in re-hashing stuff twice. Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: Conduct like that is unacceptable in the workplace, so why should it be applauded here? Ummmm, because it's NOT the workplace, and I don't see anyone applauding. You should really select your nomenclature with more care and forethought. Why do you feel the need to start shit now Andy? I thought we had established an uneasy truce through mutal refusal to recognize each other's messages. ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends
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Colin Davies wrote: He's just simply offensive He's not offensive at all! He employs a caustic form of humor in the tradition of Lenny Bruce, George Carlin, et al. Those who wear their feelings on their cuffs will get bent by it, but they are fragile beings who will be hurt by life itself. A pity, but it would be contra-survival for the specie to protect them from such injuries.
"Ask not for whom the bell tolls;
It tolls for thee..."With the exception of my ex-wife, life's been pretty good to me. ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends
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heh, Jason you do realise that this soapbox formerly called the rant and rave was made almost for John's benefit. The contoversy that characters like John cause are what gives the who;e site its charm. Regardz Colin J Davies
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But see, I wasn't ranting. It also appears that of 425,000 users, only a very small handful actually feel the need to voice their objections. That means over 425,000 users don't mind at all. You people should get with the program and side with the majority. ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends
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Colin Davies wrote: That is normal the mere fact that John has bothered to insult you is an honor. Many people visit CP and miss out on being insulted by him. Err no. I don't consider it an honour to be insulted by him. Quite the opposite. He's a sad, offensive, little man. I wouldn't miss him any more than Sergio. Anna :rose: Homepage | My life in tears "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In
Oh stop being a whiney little bitch Andy. ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends