Will this lockdown be a game changer workwise?
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During this lockdown period with many working from home the three opinion I heard is 1. I love it 2. I will love it and continue if its more streamlined. 3. I hate it. Seeing many with option 1 and 2, is there a chance that workplace will be changing to be more Home friendly and company will start reducing overhead cost by streamlining Home office?
cheers,
Super
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... does that mean can treat work like school assignments - ask stupid questions on CP how to do it?
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super wrote:
3. I hate it. Seeing many with option 1 and 2, is there a chance that workplace will be changing to be more Home friendly and company will start reducing overhead cost by streamlining Home office?
I'd still prefer a real office to work in; it's a set of rooms, specialized and dedicated to IT-work. No cat there to distract me either, and always someone at the coffeemachine to talk to when I'm stuck. Big storage with spare-parts nearby and hardware-people who smile kindly when I ask if IDE is still a thing. Two fried snacks (changing daily) in the canteen, along with some healthy stuff. Working at home, to me, feels like living at my workplace. Where do you go then when you want to relax after working?
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
Working at home, to me, feels like living at my workplace. Where do you go then when you want to relax after working?
Exactly. Home office is not giving me space to unwind and it feels days are way longer.
cheers,
Super
------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it
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During this lockdown period with many working from home the three opinion I heard is 1. I love it 2. I will love it and continue if its more streamlined. 3. I hate it. Seeing many with option 1 and 2, is there a chance that workplace will be changing to be more Home friendly and company will start reducing overhead cost by streamlining Home office?
cheers,
Super
------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it
3 weeks in now and I don't know yet. I'd say a 2.3 (out of 3). Most of the tasked I can do from home, things are a little slower. What I'm missing is the interaction; there is a difference between video conferencing and talking in person.
I'd rather be phishing!
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
Working at home, to me, feels like living at my workplace. Where do you go then when you want to relax after working?
Exactly. Home office is not giving me space to unwind and it feels days are way longer.
cheers,
Super
------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it
Yep, I stopped playing games most of the days after working at home.
I'd rather be phishing!
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super wrote:
3. I hate it. Seeing many with option 1 and 2, is there a chance that workplace will be changing to be more Home friendly and company will start reducing overhead cost by streamlining Home office?
I'd still prefer a real office to work in; it's a set of rooms, specialized and dedicated to IT-work. No cat there to distract me either, and always someone at the coffeemachine to talk to when I'm stuck. Big storage with spare-parts nearby and hardware-people who smile kindly when I ask if IDE is still a thing. Two fried snacks (changing daily) in the canteen, along with some healthy stuff. Working at home, to me, feels like living at my workplace. Where do you go then when you want to relax after working?
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
So do I. I don't have a home office as other might have. I am working at my PC-Desk and I don't like it. I am aware of the other advantages. Less time on the road, less $$ in petrol... But anyways, my inner peace is more important for me. I want to come home and forget about work until next day. I can't switch off so easy right now as I could before.
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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During this lockdown period with many working from home the three opinion I heard is 1. I love it 2. I will love it and continue if its more streamlined. 3. I hate it. Seeing many with option 1 and 2, is there a chance that workplace will be changing to be more Home friendly and company will start reducing overhead cost by streamlining Home office?
cheers,
Super
------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it
super wrote:
...is there a chance that workplace will be changing to be more Home friendly and company will start reducing overhead cost by streamlining Home office?
I see that becoming the new norm, very much so.
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During this lockdown period with many working from home the three opinion I heard is 1. I love it 2. I will love it and continue if its more streamlined. 3. I hate it. Seeing many with option 1 and 2, is there a chance that workplace will be changing to be more Home friendly and company will start reducing overhead cost by streamlining Home office?
cheers,
Super
------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it
My pessimistic self would say no, there's better chances that after a few months, we'll be back to where we were...perhaps with very few exceptions. Personally (I've mentioned it many times here over the past few weeks) I've been doing it for the last 12+ years. We used to meet once a week at the office (everybody agreed it was mostly a waste of time), then it became once a month, then for the last 3 years or so we've only been meeting for our Christmas party. My car is 13 years old (14 this summer), and I still haven't cracked 88,000 km on the odometer. Granted, I'm not the type who goes out driving for the fun of it, and I tend to wait until I can consolidate multiple errands before going out. I think I've refueled the car 4 times in the entire last year. Our office is 70km away from where I am, so avoiding driving to and back even once is roughly 2 hours saved. If I had to go daily, that's 10 hours a week that would have to come out of *my* personal time. What would *you* do with an extra 10 hours a week? When working in an office, I rarely brought a lunch, and needless to say unless you eat garbage eating out is a lot more expensive than groceries. I make myself available over Skype/Teams to coworkers between regular work hours. Some people need to socialize - I get that - but I can function just fine without that. I have the discipline to commit to my work during work hours, and friends/family know not to get in touch with me unless it's so important they would have called my workplace to talk to me during work hours. So that doesn't happen. And yes, no kids, no wife, no girlfriend, so that's all easy for me to say. But consider my boss has a wife and 4 kids, and (in his own words), if his home office door is closed, nobody's opening it unless someone's bleeding. Bottom line - I would love to see that many fewer cars on the road being a permanent thing. Realistically...I don't see it happening.
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super wrote:
3. I hate it. Seeing many with option 1 and 2, is there a chance that workplace will be changing to be more Home friendly and company will start reducing overhead cost by streamlining Home office?
I'd still prefer a real office to work in; it's a set of rooms, specialized and dedicated to IT-work. No cat there to distract me either, and always someone at the coffeemachine to talk to when I'm stuck. Big storage with spare-parts nearby and hardware-people who smile kindly when I ask if IDE is still a thing. Two fried snacks (changing daily) in the canteen, along with some healthy stuff. Working at home, to me, feels like living at my workplace. Where do you go then when you want to relax after working?
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
Seconded. Or fourthed, whatever.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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My pessimistic self would say no, there's better chances that after a few months, we'll be back to where we were...perhaps with very few exceptions. Personally (I've mentioned it many times here over the past few weeks) I've been doing it for the last 12+ years. We used to meet once a week at the office (everybody agreed it was mostly a waste of time), then it became once a month, then for the last 3 years or so we've only been meeting for our Christmas party. My car is 13 years old (14 this summer), and I still haven't cracked 88,000 km on the odometer. Granted, I'm not the type who goes out driving for the fun of it, and I tend to wait until I can consolidate multiple errands before going out. I think I've refueled the car 4 times in the entire last year. Our office is 70km away from where I am, so avoiding driving to and back even once is roughly 2 hours saved. If I had to go daily, that's 10 hours a week that would have to come out of *my* personal time. What would *you* do with an extra 10 hours a week? When working in an office, I rarely brought a lunch, and needless to say unless you eat garbage eating out is a lot more expensive than groceries. I make myself available over Skype/Teams to coworkers between regular work hours. Some people need to socialize - I get that - but I can function just fine without that. I have the discipline to commit to my work during work hours, and friends/family know not to get in touch with me unless it's so important they would have called my workplace to talk to me during work hours. So that doesn't happen. And yes, no kids, no wife, no girlfriend, so that's all easy for me to say. But consider my boss has a wife and 4 kids, and (in his own words), if his home office door is closed, nobody's opening it unless someone's bleeding. Bottom line - I would love to see that many fewer cars on the road being a permanent thing. Realistically...I don't see it happening.
dandy72 wrote:
But consider my boss has a wife and 4 kids, and (in his own words), if his home office door is closed, nobody's opening it unless someone's bleeding.
Try that with kids less than 4 years old. It doesn't work.
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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dandy72 wrote:
But consider my boss has a wife and 4 kids, and (in his own words), if his home office door is closed, nobody's opening it unless someone's bleeding.
Try that with kids less than 4 years old. It doesn't work.
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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My youngest won't get in, because she doesn't reach the door opener. But she will knock on the door, until I open or my wife takes her. The oldest one opens from time to time because she wants to show me a drawing she made, or ask me if I want something to eat or things like that. She gets said several times a day to not come in, but as I said, being less than 4 years old is almost impossible to comply.
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.