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  • M Mark_Wallace

    Teachers in Singapore stop using Zoom after 'lewd' incidents[^] When will people learn that "THE LATEST MUST HAVE APP!" is almost invariably st*ff that should be locked in a basement and ignored for a few centuries, until it has been completely forgotten about?

    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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    den2k88
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    I have the half idea of studying Zoom to provide a free compatible alternative without the most invasive features, allowing users to take back Erebor! control of their own PC.

    GCS d--(d+) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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      I have the half idea of studying Zoom to provide a free compatible alternative without the most invasive features, allowing users to take back Erebor! control of their own PC.

      GCS d--(d+) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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      Mark_Wallace
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      I'd install it in an instant.

      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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      • M Mark_Wallace

        Teachers in Singapore stop using Zoom after 'lewd' incidents[^] When will people learn that "THE LATEST MUST HAVE APP!" is almost invariably st*ff that should be locked in a basement and ignored for a few centuries, until it has been completely forgotten about?

        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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        realJSOP
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        The devs where I work are using it. We haven't had any "intrusions" yet.

        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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        • realJSOPR realJSOP

          The devs where I work are using it. We haven't had any "intrusions" yet.

          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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          Mark_Wallace
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          That's probably because they're savvy enough to change default settings and use ACLs. I had to use it for an interview a few months ago, so I installed it on my phone (because android has a brilliant app for showing connections established by installed apps[^]) which showed just how "free and easy" it is -- with your data and connections. I wouldn't use it without being able to set very strict rules (i.e. not on a phone, and not the web app).

          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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            That's probably because they're savvy enough to change default settings and use ACLs. I had to use it for an interview a few months ago, so I installed it on my phone (because android has a brilliant app for showing connections established by installed apps[^]) which showed just how "free and easy" it is -- with your data and connections. I wouldn't use it without being able to set very strict rules (i.e. not on a phone, and not the web app).

            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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            realJSOP
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            Aren't *all* of the commercial apps in this genre "free and easy" with your data/connections?

            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
            -----
            When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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            • realJSOPR realJSOP

              Aren't *all* of the commercial apps in this genre "free and easy" with your data/connections?

              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
              -----
              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
              -----
              When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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              Mark_Wallace
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              Pretty much, which is why I only ever use them on computers or laptops, where I can take back as much control as possible; and never use web-app versions. It's not a game you can win, but at least you can keep them from winning quite so big.

              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                Pretty much, which is why I only ever use them on computers or laptops, where I can take back as much control as possible; and never use web-app versions. It's not a game you can win, but at least you can keep them from winning quite so big.

                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                realJSOP
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                Yeah, I only use it from a computer, too.

                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                • M Mark_Wallace

                  Teachers in Singapore stop using Zoom after 'lewd' incidents[^] When will people learn that "THE LATEST MUST HAVE APP!" is almost invariably st*ff that should be locked in a basement and ignored for a few centuries, until it has been completely forgotten about?

                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                  realJSOP
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                  I got this email yesterday:

                  Dear Valued Customer,
                  As Eric shared last week, our commitment to strengthening and improving Zoom is our number one priority. We wanted to reach out with a quick overview of our latest release, and highlight the number of new enhancements created specifically for ensuring the security and privacy of our product. For more information on these changes, please reference our Release Notes.

                  Security Toolbar Icon for Hosts

                  The meeting host will now have a Security option in their meeting controls, which exposes all of Zoom’s existing in-meeting security controls in one place. This includes locking the meeting, enabling Waiting Room, and more. Users can also now enable Waiting Room in a meeting, even if the feature was not turned on before the start of the meeting. For more information, please visit this recently published Blog.

                  Invite Button on Meeting Client Toolbar

                  The button to invite others to join your Zoom meeting is now available at the bottom of the Participants panel.

                  Meeting ID No Longer Displayed

                  The meeting ID will no longer be displayed in the title bar of the Zoom meeting window. The meeting ID can be found by clicking on Participants, then Invite or by clicking on the info icon at the top left of the client window.

                  Remove Attendee Attention Tracking Feature

                  Zoom has removed the attendee attention tracker feature as part of our commitment to the security and privacy of our customers. For more background on this change and how we are pivoting during these unprecedented times, please see a note from our CEO, Eric S. Yuan.

                  Removal of the Facebook SDK in our iOS client

                  We have reconfigured the feature so that users will still be able to log in with Facebook via their browser.

                  File Transfers

                  The option to do third-party file transfers in Meeting and Chat was temporarily disabled. Local file transfer is available with our latest release. Third-party file transfers and clickable URLs in meeting chat will be added back in an upcoming release.

                  New Join Flow for the Web client

                  By default, users will now need to sign in to their Zoom account or create a Zoom account when joining a meeting or webinar with the Web client. This can be disabled by the Admin or the User from their settings page.

                  Join Before Host Emails Disabled

                  Notifications sent to the host via email when participants are waiting for the host to join the meeting have been disabled.

                  Setting to Allow Participants to Rename Themselves

                  Account admins

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                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                    I got this email yesterday:

                    Dear Valued Customer,
                    As Eric shared last week, our commitment to strengthening and improving Zoom is our number one priority. We wanted to reach out with a quick overview of our latest release, and highlight the number of new enhancements created specifically for ensuring the security and privacy of our product. For more information on these changes, please reference our Release Notes.

                    Security Toolbar Icon for Hosts

                    The meeting host will now have a Security option in their meeting controls, which exposes all of Zoom’s existing in-meeting security controls in one place. This includes locking the meeting, enabling Waiting Room, and more. Users can also now enable Waiting Room in a meeting, even if the feature was not turned on before the start of the meeting. For more information, please visit this recently published Blog.

                    Invite Button on Meeting Client Toolbar

                    The button to invite others to join your Zoom meeting is now available at the bottom of the Participants panel.

                    Meeting ID No Longer Displayed

                    The meeting ID will no longer be displayed in the title bar of the Zoom meeting window. The meeting ID can be found by clicking on Participants, then Invite or by clicking on the info icon at the top left of the client window.

                    Remove Attendee Attention Tracking Feature

                    Zoom has removed the attendee attention tracker feature as part of our commitment to the security and privacy of our customers. For more background on this change and how we are pivoting during these unprecedented times, please see a note from our CEO, Eric S. Yuan.

                    Removal of the Facebook SDK in our iOS client

                    We have reconfigured the feature so that users will still be able to log in with Facebook via their browser.

                    File Transfers

                    The option to do third-party file transfers in Meeting and Chat was temporarily disabled. Local file transfer is available with our latest release. Third-party file transfers and clickable URLs in meeting chat will be added back in an upcoming release.

                    New Join Flow for the Web client

                    By default, users will now need to sign in to their Zoom account or create a Zoom account when joining a meeting or webinar with the Web client. This can be disabled by the Admin or the User from their settings page.

                    Join Before Host Emails Disabled

                    Notifications sent to the host via email when participants are waiting for the host to join the meeting have been disabled.

                    Setting to Allow Participants to Rename Themselves

                    Account admins

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                    Mark_Wallace
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                    Good God!  Release notes! OK, I'm beginning to like them.

                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                    • M Mark_Wallace

                      Good God!  Release notes! OK, I'm beginning to like them.

                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                      Dan Neely
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                      Yeah. I've not been a fan of the company since it came out that they installed an entire :elephant:ing web server on macs to bypass an OS prompt in launching their app from the browser; and implemented that kludge so badly it left gaping holes for more malacious software to exploit and didn't remote the server when uninstalling the client. Apple responded by force uninstalling Zoom, and the Zoom devs removed their kludge either in response to Apples big hammer of doom or internet outrage (don't recall the exact timeline). I do have to admit they're moving fast to fix as many of the issues found now that they're getting looked at by every furloughed security researcher on the planet ASAP.

                      Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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