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  • D dandy72

    Never mind the individual cables, apparently I have so many power bars under my desk that, about a month ago, I accidentally hit the power switch on one of them with my foot (turning it off), and nothing but my small desk stereo stopped working. Meaning, I have at least one entire power strip sitting under my desk, with 5 out of its 6 outlets used by a cable that goes somewhere apparently unimportant and I could take them all out. But I suspect at least some of them go to power devices that happened to be turned off at the time. I just don't dare try to find out what goes where. At this point, taking everything apart and putting everything back together has to be a full 3 days worth of effort. It used to be an annual thing, more or less. But I stopped at one point, and it's now too late to do anything about it.

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    kalberts
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    Norwegian authorities try to get completely rid of extension cords and power strips and similar devices. So they have defined requirements for all new apartments / houses: In any room for indoor activity, like living room, bedroom, home office, ...: At least two outlets per 4 square meter (full or partial) floor space, plus in your living room an additional six where the TV set is supposed to be placed. For my 35 sq.m. living room, that adds up to a minimum of 24 electrical outlets. For the kitchen, there must be dedicated outlet for each fixed location appliance such as fridge, freezer, kitchen fan, cooking stove, dishwasher, coffee machine, microwave, ... plus two outlet per 2 meter (full or partial) work bench for kitchen bench appliances, plus four outlets by the kitchen table. For my kitchen that means 22 outlets. The 15 sq.m. bedroom requires eight outlets. The smaller 9 sq.m. one can pass with six outlets. The 6 sq.m bathroom must have four outlets... I can certainly imagine that there are people with a real need for 24 outlets in their living room, or eight in their bedroom. But these are minimum requirements. If the are not satisfied, then you are not allowed to move into the house. I never had a TV set, no cable tuner, no VCR, DVD or BD player (of the set-top type - I've got it in my PC). I have a central vacuum cleaner, with no need for power where I am using it. The heating is in the floor - no need to plug in an extra heater (I rather lit my open fireplace or wood stove). I am in the process of changing all my indoor lighting to 12VDC LED light, with no need for an AC socket. So I have no idea what I would need the 24 outlets in my living room for. Or four outlets in the bathroom. Fortunately (for this issue), my house is old, and the requirements apply to new residences only. I can do quite extensive remodeling without invoking these requirements. But minimum requirements at this level help explain why housing is so f* expensive in this country. Admittedly: Where these requirements are satisfied, you certainly need not burden your family bugdet with expensive power strips and extension cords...

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    • D dandy72

      Never mind the individual cables, apparently I have so many power bars under my desk that, about a month ago, I accidentally hit the power switch on one of them with my foot (turning it off), and nothing but my small desk stereo stopped working. Meaning, I have at least one entire power strip sitting under my desk, with 5 out of its 6 outlets used by a cable that goes somewhere apparently unimportant and I could take them all out. But I suspect at least some of them go to power devices that happened to be turned off at the time. I just don't dare try to find out what goes where. At this point, taking everything apart and putting everything back together has to be a full 3 days worth of effort. It used to be an annual thing, more or less. But I stopped at one point, and it's now too late to do anything about it.

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      Richard Andrew x64
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      dandy72 wrote:

      and it's now too late to do anything about it

      This made me :laugh:

      The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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      • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

        Is that what it's called, "tidy cabling?" I just searched those keywords on the IKEA site and nothing resembling what you describe.

        The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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        Lost User
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        Sorry: Cable management & accessories Or "cabling" would have worked. I was para-phrasing :-\

        It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food

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        • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

          ...dealing with a rats nest of wires with their computer setup? This evening I've tasked myself with tearing down and rebuilding my entire computer setup to make it use the space more efficiently and to have a more organized approach. This is going to be no easy feat. And I won't have internet access during the tear-down and rebuild, except for my phone. Has anyone else successfully tamed the tangle of wires?

          The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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          _WinBase_
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          go more bluetooth/wifi wherever posible for one. I'm moving home and office soon and replacing as many wired devices (mouse/keyboad/speakers) as i can. I'm hiding cat6 cabling for the various network points behind walls/skirting boards, and mounting the ethernet switch to the wall under the desk. I'm reducing the length of each patch cables wherever possible to the minimum, and fitting extra power points in flush wall plates rather than use extension leads. The one cabled option i'm sticking with is for the internet as i dont like wifi for this. You won't totally eliminate it all but every bit helps. PS: avoid trying to combine an Alexa echo dot with speaker, it constantly and randomly says 'playing from ' and you can't switch it off. I will soon hurl mine at the wall and say 'play from that' lol. GL

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          • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

            ...dealing with a rats nest of wires with their computer setup? This evening I've tasked myself with tearing down and rebuilding my entire computer setup to make it use the space more efficiently and to have a more organized approach. This is going to be no easy feat. And I won't have internet access during the tear-down and rebuild, except for my phone. Has anyone else successfully tamed the tangle of wires?

            The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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            BryanFazekas
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            I re-do the wires every 6 months or so. My house is dusty, so twice a year I disconnect everything, take the PC outside, crack the case, and blow out* the dust. Then I clean the fans using cotton swabs and rubbing alcohol. Putting everything back together isn't that bad of a job ... but I also do it often enough to remember (more or less) what is what. I also pull all cables from the UPS, dust it, then start plugging things back in. Periodically I discover a power cable that goes to nothing (old wifi router was replaced, didn't crawl under the desk to remove the power cord ... which makes no sense since I had to plug the new one in ;P ) On occasion I find peripherals that I'm no longer using, e.g., a 3 port USB 2.0 hub that got pushed into a corner. * I have a shop compressor and use the blower tool to clean everything out; this works FAR better than canned compressed air. I learned to NOT do this in the garage -- I take the PC outside, away from the house, as the dust cloud can be significant. If you do this, DO NOT let the fans spin freely. Put a toothpick or skewer in the fan so it can't spin. Many moons ago I apparently over-revved a fan and broke it.

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            • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

              ...dealing with a rats nest of wires with their computer setup? This evening I've tasked myself with tearing down and rebuilding my entire computer setup to make it use the space more efficiently and to have a more organized approach. This is going to be no easy feat. And I won't have internet access during the tear-down and rebuild, except for my phone. Has anyone else successfully tamed the tangle of wires?

              The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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              Slow Eddie
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              She Who Must Be Obeyed complains bitterly, on a constant basis. She refuses to come downstairs to my office, until I clean up the mess. She wonders why it is taking so long.... :rolleyes:

              Tied up in my work

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              • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                ...dealing with a rats nest of wires with their computer setup? This evening I've tasked myself with tearing down and rebuilding my entire computer setup to make it use the space more efficiently and to have a more organized approach. This is going to be no easy feat. And I won't have internet access during the tear-down and rebuild, except for my phone. Has anyone else successfully tamed the tangle of wires?

                The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                Sr_Dogmeat
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                I do believe that the natural state of wires is to form Gordian Knots

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                • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                  Is that what it's called, "tidy cabling?" I just searched those keywords on the IKEA site and nothing resembling what you describe.

                  The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                  davecasdf
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                  Split loom tubing / corrugated sleeving . McMaster Carr in the US, or your local Industrial electrical supply. Spiral wrap ( sleeving ) works very well, but at 2 turns per inch on small diameters it's slow. The zipper stuff can be nice. But, I'd just use velcro, 3/8" wide roll cut the ends on a diagonal - it makes it easier to wrap and to remove. And you get to tie to legs... to hold things in place. ( We cheated and used large binder clips to dress cables to the metal desk. )

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                  • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                    ...dealing with a rats nest of wires with their computer setup? This evening I've tasked myself with tearing down and rebuilding my entire computer setup to make it use the space more efficiently and to have a more organized approach. This is going to be no easy feat. And I won't have internet access during the tear-down and rebuild, except for my phone. Has anyone else successfully tamed the tangle of wires?

                    The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                    Man of Code
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                    When I started working from home full time a couple years ago I wanted a clean cable free office environment so I maybe went a little extreme and designed and built all my office furniture with that goal in mind. Pictures convey the result better than words. The main drawback is that with everything so well concealed, making any changes to the setup takes real commitment.

                    -Kevin

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                    • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                      ...dealing with a rats nest of wires with their computer setup? This evening I've tasked myself with tearing down and rebuilding my entire computer setup to make it use the space more efficiently and to have a more organized approach. This is going to be no easy feat. And I won't have internet access during the tear-down and rebuild, except for my phone. Has anyone else successfully tamed the tangle of wires?

                      The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                      User 13224750
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                      I had my house wired by a couple of professionals. Wall plates in rooms have two or more network drops. Wall mount rack in a "wiring Closet" holds switches, 8 port KVM, two NAS devices & of course Fios Router. Only thing that is a bit messy is the patch cords & power cords running from the wall to the equipment. Just haven't taken the time to clean that up. TV, and its audio system are all Internet connected (they update their firmware). Made similar provision for an audio system in den should I ever replace that.

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