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Who has the most ridiculous fan boys, C++ or Rust?

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  • D Dean Roddey

    It's a hard call for me, they both seem so evenly matched.

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    Kent Sharkey
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    Should I introduce you to the Ruby fans? :doh: Neither of the above come close.

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      Should I introduce you to the Ruby fans? :doh: Neither of the above come close.

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      Dean Roddey
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      I definitely don't want to meet them then...

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      • D Dean Roddey

        It's a hard call for me, they both seem so evenly matched.

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        PIEBALDconsult
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        I didn't realize C++ had those; I thought they were only for unpopular and niche new languages (Rust, Go, Python, etc.).

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          I didn't realize C++ had those; I thought they were only for unpopular and niche new languages (Rust, Go, Python, etc.).

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          Dean Roddey
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          C++ has pro level practitioners for sure.

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          • D Dean Roddey

            It's a hard call for me, they both seem so evenly matched.

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            Dean Roddey
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            I just made this post on the Rust section of Reddit and it got removed as offensive or abusive: "The whole variable shadowing thing is just a ridiculously bad idea. I cannot believe that a language so anal retentive about safety would allow such a thing. If there's not an option to have the compiler warning about it, there should be." I mean that's just Rust fan boys suppressing anything that questions the sanctity of Rust.

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            • D Dean Roddey

              I just made this post on the Rust section of Reddit and it got removed as offensive or abusive: "The whole variable shadowing thing is just a ridiculously bad idea. I cannot believe that a language so anal retentive about safety would allow such a thing. If there's not an option to have the compiler warning about it, there should be." I mean that's just Rust fan boys suppressing anything that questions the sanctity of Rust.

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              Probably offensive because of "anal retentive". We're getting inundated with people who grew up in very sheltered environments. I'd never heard of variable shadowing and had to look it up. :wtf:

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              • D Dean Roddey

                It's a hard call for me, they both seem so evenly matched.

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                Super Lloyd
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                Tell us how you really feel! :-\ :rolleyes:

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                • D Dean Roddey

                  It's a hard call for me, they both seem so evenly matched.

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                  • D Dean Roddey

                    It's a hard call for me, they both seem so evenly matched.

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                    dandy72
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                    As far as I'm concerned...the C++ fanbois at least have decades worth of real-world projects they can use to support whatever claims they want to make. Rust right now is being described by Wikipedia as having appeared less than a decade ago. Remove from that whatever amount of time it takes for any language to see some real-world use. Is it fair to draw any conclusion from that? Whether that's even a valid metric to use, that's not for me to decide, but it *is* what first came to mind...

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                      As far as I'm concerned...the C++ fanbois at least have decades worth of real-world projects they can use to support whatever claims they want to make. Rust right now is being described by Wikipedia as having appeared less than a decade ago. Remove from that whatever amount of time it takes for any language to see some real-world use. Is it fair to draw any conclusion from that? Whether that's even a valid metric to use, that's not for me to decide, but it *is* what first came to mind...

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                      Dean Roddey
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                      I dunno, a new language may engender even more ardent support, because they have an 'us against the world' thing going on or something.

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                      • D Dean Roddey

                        I dunno, a new language may engender even more ardent support, because they have an 'us against the world' thing going on or something.

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                        dandy72
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                        Dean Roddey wrote:

                        even more ardent support, because they have an 'us against the world' thing going on

                        That's pretty much my point - the question was, who has the most ridiculous fan boys. They're being ridiculous if a language is brand new and still unproven. If a language's been around for 50 years...its defenders at least have a leg to stand on.

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