The "Evolution" of Windows
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Earlier today I had to open a Word document and I wanted to move it to my other monitor. Then it occured to me - there's no place on the title bar to click & drag. The Title bar is full of "features" now. When did it ever become a good idea to move controls off a toolbar, which you can hide, rearrange, and move, to the Title Bar. Even the actualy title is some kind of save control that opens a drop down with save options. When I tried to drag to window to the other monitor, I hit the title, and instead of moving, this drop down opened. Then I had to actually go find some place in the title bar to hold on to to move the window. So instead of Click, Drag, Move, done, I had to spend 2 minutes trying to figure the damn thing out. What I'm sure was an "enhancment in the name of productivity" has really become an annoyance that makes me not want to use this app any more. After coding apps for 35+ years, I'm strugging to the the evolution in software we use these days.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.
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Earlier today I had to open a Word document and I wanted to move it to my other monitor. Then it occured to me - there's no place on the title bar to click & drag. The Title bar is full of "features" now. When did it ever become a good idea to move controls off a toolbar, which you can hide, rearrange, and move, to the Title Bar. Even the actualy title is some kind of save control that opens a drop down with save options. When I tried to drag to window to the other monitor, I hit the title, and instead of moving, this drop down opened. Then I had to actually go find some place in the title bar to hold on to to move the window. So instead of Click, Drag, Move, done, I had to spend 2 minutes trying to figure the damn thing out. What I'm sure was an "enhancment in the name of productivity" has really become an annoyance that makes me not want to use this app any more. After coding apps for 35+ years, I'm strugging to the the evolution in software we use these days.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.
Excel is also bad for this, putting up a little symbol menu after a paste operation, or previewing a window containing another Excel document, both covering up things that you want to look at. Just stop with all this nonsense!
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Earlier today I had to open a Word document and I wanted to move it to my other monitor. Then it occured to me - there's no place on the title bar to click & drag. The Title bar is full of "features" now. When did it ever become a good idea to move controls off a toolbar, which you can hide, rearrange, and move, to the Title Bar. Even the actualy title is some kind of save control that opens a drop down with save options. When I tried to drag to window to the other monitor, I hit the title, and instead of moving, this drop down opened. Then I had to actually go find some place in the title bar to hold on to to move the window. So instead of Click, Drag, Move, done, I had to spend 2 minutes trying to figure the damn thing out. What I'm sure was an "enhancment in the name of productivity" has really become an annoyance that makes me not want to use this app any more. After coding apps for 35+ years, I'm strugging to the the evolution in software we use these days.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.
Word 2003 still looks just the same on Win 10, I don't understand your problem. :|
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Word 2003 still looks just the same on Win 10, I don't understand your problem. :|
Just give it a few years, and Windows will no longer be able to open that document or even convert it to a version that can be opened. It happened to me with some stuff I had archived from the '90s. :mad:
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Earlier today I had to open a Word document and I wanted to move it to my other monitor. Then it occured to me - there's no place on the title bar to click & drag. The Title bar is full of "features" now. When did it ever become a good idea to move controls off a toolbar, which you can hide, rearrange, and move, to the Title Bar. Even the actualy title is some kind of save control that opens a drop down with save options. When I tried to drag to window to the other monitor, I hit the title, and instead of moving, this drop down opened. Then I had to actually go find some place in the title bar to hold on to to move the window. So instead of Click, Drag, Move, done, I had to spend 2 minutes trying to figure the damn thing out. What I'm sure was an "enhancment in the name of productivity" has really become an annoyance that makes me not want to use this app any more. After coding apps for 35+ years, I'm strugging to the the evolution in software we use these days.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.
Haven't had that problem with Word, but Teams is pretty bad at this. I'm *always* struggling to find a place I can click on the caption to drag the window around. I suspect there's some devs at Microsoft being told that everybody's running everything fullscreen (y'know...like you would on a tablet or phone)...so who still uses non-maximized windows nowadays, that you'd want to move around...?
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Earlier today I had to open a Word document and I wanted to move it to my other monitor. Then it occured to me - there's no place on the title bar to click & drag. The Title bar is full of "features" now. When did it ever become a good idea to move controls off a toolbar, which you can hide, rearrange, and move, to the Title Bar. Even the actualy title is some kind of save control that opens a drop down with save options. When I tried to drag to window to the other monitor, I hit the title, and instead of moving, this drop down opened. Then I had to actually go find some place in the title bar to hold on to to move the window. So instead of Click, Drag, Move, done, I had to spend 2 minutes trying to figure the damn thing out. What I'm sure was an "enhancment in the name of productivity" has really become an annoyance that makes me not want to use this app any more. After coding apps for 35+ years, I'm strugging to the the evolution in software we use these days.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.
Yep, I know what you're talking about! How about using Windows key + arrow in the direction of your other monitor (2 or 3 times)? :)
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Earlier today I had to open a Word document and I wanted to move it to my other monitor. Then it occured to me - there's no place on the title bar to click & drag. The Title bar is full of "features" now. When did it ever become a good idea to move controls off a toolbar, which you can hide, rearrange, and move, to the Title Bar. Even the actualy title is some kind of save control that opens a drop down with save options. When I tried to drag to window to the other monitor, I hit the title, and instead of moving, this drop down opened. Then I had to actually go find some place in the title bar to hold on to to move the window. So instead of Click, Drag, Move, done, I had to spend 2 minutes trying to figure the damn thing out. What I'm sure was an "enhancment in the name of productivity" has really become an annoyance that makes me not want to use this app any more. After coding apps for 35+ years, I'm strugging to the the evolution in software we use these days.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.
Kevin Marois wrote:
After coding apps for 35+ years
Strange. I never needed to code anything to make 'apps'. I make that sound automatically when someone punches me.
Kevin Marois wrote:
I'm strugging to the the evolution in software we use these days.
That's quite simple. Apple has been going down that road for an eternity now. You are a dumb user and don't know what you want, so you have to be told by someone who knows exactly what's best for you. The evolutionary step along the way was to serve their company's needs and not yours anymore. So what are you going to do, now that you have finally begun to see it? Blue pill and back into the Matrix? Or better the red pill?
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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Just give it a few years, and Windows will no longer be able to open that document or even convert it to a version that can be opened. It happened to me with some stuff I had archived from the '90s. :mad:
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VM to the rescue (again) ;) :-D Virtual Machine with Windows XP and Office 2000, convert them and then change to Win 7 and office 2010...
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Earlier today I had to open a Word document and I wanted to move it to my other monitor. Then it occured to me - there's no place on the title bar to click & drag. The Title bar is full of "features" now. When did it ever become a good idea to move controls off a toolbar, which you can hide, rearrange, and move, to the Title Bar. Even the actualy title is some kind of save control that opens a drop down with save options. When I tried to drag to window to the other monitor, I hit the title, and instead of moving, this drop down opened. Then I had to actually go find some place in the title bar to hold on to to move the window. So instead of Click, Drag, Move, done, I had to spend 2 minutes trying to figure the damn thing out. What I'm sure was an "enhancment in the name of productivity" has really become an annoyance that makes me not want to use this app any more. After coding apps for 35+ years, I'm strugging to the the evolution in software we use these days.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.
A trick that has helped me sometimes is to hit the "Alt" key to let the menu appear, then you have a more or less tiny but clean area. Or as Sander said the combo "Alt+Tab" and "Windows + Arrow keys" to move between Monitors / Maximize / Minimize But yes... since Windows 8 the things are getting worse with each "update" or "new Version"
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Yep, I know what you're talking about! How about using Windows key + arrow in the direction of your other monitor (2 or 3 times)? :)
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It is windows key + Shift key + Arrow in the direction of the window.
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Earlier today I had to open a Word document and I wanted to move it to my other monitor. Then it occured to me - there's no place on the title bar to click & drag. The Title bar is full of "features" now. When did it ever become a good idea to move controls off a toolbar, which you can hide, rearrange, and move, to the Title Bar. Even the actualy title is some kind of save control that opens a drop down with save options. When I tried to drag to window to the other monitor, I hit the title, and instead of moving, this drop down opened. Then I had to actually go find some place in the title bar to hold on to to move the window. So instead of Click, Drag, Move, done, I had to spend 2 minutes trying to figure the damn thing out. What I'm sure was an "enhancment in the name of productivity" has really become an annoyance that makes me not want to use this app any more. After coding apps for 35+ years, I'm strugging to the the evolution in software we use these days.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.
Kevin Marois wrote:
to move controls off a toolbar
The ribbon´is now so full with features that an even quicker way to show essential commands was needed. Mwa ah ah ah. Next generation will have a side bar with buttons to move the window, since this is not possible anymore by clicking the titlebar :rolleyes: Which version are you running ? My Word does not have this, and it's the latest desktop one. Maybe you are on the shitty 365 ?
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It is windows key + Shift key + Arrow in the direction of the window.
Oh, didn't even know that :D
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Oh, didn't even know that :D
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It is in my top 3 most used keyboard shortcuts, just after alt+F4 and Copy/paste.
I never use alt+F4. I use Ctrl+A and Ctrl+S a lot and of course Ctrl+Z/X/C/V. Also Windows+L and Windows+E. In Visual Studio I use a lot more. Overall, I don't use a lot of shortcut keys though, although I'm using them a lot more than a few years ago when I used practically none.
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I never use alt+F4. I use Ctrl+A and Ctrl+S a lot and of course Ctrl+Z/X/C/V. Also Windows+L and Windows+E. In Visual Studio I use a lot more. Overall, I don't use a lot of shortcut keys though, although I'm using them a lot more than a few years ago when I used practically none.
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Earlier today I had to open a Word document and I wanted to move it to my other monitor. Then it occured to me - there's no place on the title bar to click & drag. The Title bar is full of "features" now. When did it ever become a good idea to move controls off a toolbar, which you can hide, rearrange, and move, to the Title Bar. Even the actualy title is some kind of save control that opens a drop down with save options. When I tried to drag to window to the other monitor, I hit the title, and instead of moving, this drop down opened. Then I had to actually go find some place in the title bar to hold on to to move the window. So instead of Click, Drag, Move, done, I had to spend 2 minutes trying to figure the damn thing out. What I'm sure was an "enhancment in the name of productivity" has really become an annoyance that makes me not want to use this app any more. After coding apps for 35+ years, I'm strugging to the the evolution in software we use these days.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.
I think it's a strategy to get you to upgrade to a wider monitor screen. 1920 not big enough, upgrade to 2560 and a couple of years later 3840.
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It is windows key + Shift key + Arrow in the direction of the window.
That changes the monitor, but not the position within the same monitor. Vertical tide right side monitor 1 + [Windows + Left] = Vertical tide left monitor 1. Vertical tide right side monitor 1 + [Windows + Shift + Left] = Vertical tide right monitor 2. If with option #1 doesn't change to 50% of the screen, it is at least aligned top left, then [windows + down] makes it again 50% of the screen. Doing it again, lower 25%. Do it again than minimizes. (I suppose that has changed lately, before you only needed one Windows + Down to minimize from the left 50% position)
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Sander Rossel wrote:
I never use alt+F4.
Try it : Friday evening, hit alt-f4 frenetically until the computer shuts down. Very relieving feeling. :laugh:
I enjoy the feeling when I press those "X" buttons one by one :D
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Earlier today I had to open a Word document and I wanted to move it to my other monitor. Then it occured to me - there's no place on the title bar to click & drag. The Title bar is full of "features" now. When did it ever become a good idea to move controls off a toolbar, which you can hide, rearrange, and move, to the Title Bar. Even the actualy title is some kind of save control that opens a drop down with save options. When I tried to drag to window to the other monitor, I hit the title, and instead of moving, this drop down opened. Then I had to actually go find some place in the title bar to hold on to to move the window. So instead of Click, Drag, Move, done, I had to spend 2 minutes trying to figure the damn thing out. What I'm sure was an "enhancment in the name of productivity" has really become an annoyance that makes me not want to use this app any more. After coding apps for 35+ years, I'm strugging to the the evolution in software we use these days.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.
I've got pretty much the same thing with the taskbar. So many pinned or running programs, there's no room to right-click.
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Earlier today I had to open a Word document and I wanted to move it to my other monitor. Then it occured to me - there's no place on the title bar to click & drag. The Title bar is full of "features" now. When did it ever become a good idea to move controls off a toolbar, which you can hide, rearrange, and move, to the Title Bar. Even the actualy title is some kind of save control that opens a drop down with save options. When I tried to drag to window to the other monitor, I hit the title, and instead of moving, this drop down opened. Then I had to actually go find some place in the title bar to hold on to to move the window. So instead of Click, Drag, Move, done, I had to spend 2 minutes trying to figure the damn thing out. What I'm sure was an "enhancment in the name of productivity" has really become an annoyance that makes me not want to use this app any more. After coding apps for 35+ years, I'm strugging to the the evolution in software we use these days.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.
I agree, but you can use the same trick I use when a dialog is off screen (after unplugging a monitor eg.) - in the Windows taskbar hover over the application - hover over the thumbnail that appears - right click and select "Move" - use the arrow keys to move the window not ideal, but faster than 2 minutes :-) (but perhaps that was the solution you found ;-))
V.
