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  • S stoneyowl2

    I wonder how long some of these will be on the books? Consider: In Alaska It is illegal to be drunk - in a bar In Chico, California it is illegal to build, own or use(!) a nuclear bomb In Connecticut only pickles that bounce may be legally sold In Florida it is illegal to sell your children In Idaho (and only Idaho) is it actively illegal to practice cannibalism (unless it is “consensual consumption” ) and many more. a large majority of these are still on the books. How long will COVID-19 laws stick around?

    A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, navigate a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects! - Lazarus Long

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    Rage
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    In France, in 2013, they canceled a law stating that women were not allowed to wear trousers :-D It was about time.

    Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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    • S stoneyowl2

      I wonder how long some of these will be on the books? Consider: In Alaska It is illegal to be drunk - in a bar In Chico, California it is illegal to build, own or use(!) a nuclear bomb In Connecticut only pickles that bounce may be legally sold In Florida it is illegal to sell your children In Idaho (and only Idaho) is it actively illegal to practice cannibalism (unless it is “consensual consumption” ) and many more. a large majority of these are still on the books. How long will COVID-19 laws stick around?

      A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, navigate a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects! - Lazarus Long

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      Jacquers
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      Some of our lockdown laws have been challenged and declared unconstitutional here in South Africa.

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      • S stoneyowl2

        I wonder how long some of these will be on the books? Consider: In Alaska It is illegal to be drunk - in a bar In Chico, California it is illegal to build, own or use(!) a nuclear bomb In Connecticut only pickles that bounce may be legally sold In Florida it is illegal to sell your children In Idaho (and only Idaho) is it actively illegal to practice cannibalism (unless it is “consensual consumption” ) and many more. a large majority of these are still on the books. How long will COVID-19 laws stick around?

        A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, navigate a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects! - Lazarus Long

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        Jonathan_Shields
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        We in the UK have plenty some dating back to the feudal/monarchist era. Beached whales belong to the reigning monarch and MPs are not allowed to wear armour in Parliament for instance. See https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/uk-strangest-weird-laws-enforced-christopher-sargeant-sturgeon-armour-a7232586.html There used to be silly things about not being able to keep a recorded copy of a TV programme for more than a month, but I think that may have been repealed. Hopefully the COVID laws get repealed when there is little to no COVID...whenever that is...

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        • J Jonathan_Shields

          We in the UK have plenty some dating back to the feudal/monarchist era. Beached whales belong to the reigning monarch and MPs are not allowed to wear armour in Parliament for instance. See https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/uk-strangest-weird-laws-enforced-christopher-sargeant-sturgeon-armour-a7232586.html There used to be silly things about not being able to keep a recorded copy of a TV programme for more than a month, but I think that may have been repealed. Hopefully the COVID laws get repealed when there is little to no COVID...whenever that is...

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          Jonathan_Shields wrote:

          There used to be silly things about not being able to keep a recorded copy of a TV programme for more than a month

          Yes, I think that was introduced in the reign of Henry VII. :-D

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            Well ... Income Tax was introduced to the UK in 1799 as a temporary measure to cover the cost of the Napoleonic Wars ... and we're still paying it!

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            Motorway speed limits were also "temporary" I believe.

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            • S stoneyowl2

              I wonder how long some of these will be on the books? Consider: In Alaska It is illegal to be drunk - in a bar In Chico, California it is illegal to build, own or use(!) a nuclear bomb In Connecticut only pickles that bounce may be legally sold In Florida it is illegal to sell your children In Idaho (and only Idaho) is it actively illegal to practice cannibalism (unless it is “consensual consumption” ) and many more. a large majority of these are still on the books. How long will COVID-19 laws stick around?

              A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, navigate a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects! - Lazarus Long

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              Many of these "silly laws" may still be on the books but are not active as they are superseded by other laws, however it is still illegal to be drunk in a pub in the UK, and it is also illegal to sell alcohol to someone who is drunk. Licensing Act 2003[^]

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                Jonathan_Shields wrote:

                There used to be silly things about not being able to keep a recorded copy of a TV programme for more than a month

                Yes, I think that was introduced in the reign of Henry VII. :-D

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                kalberts
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                Whatever the law says, people will be complaining about not being allowed to make copies. In Norway, the copyright law state explicitly that you can make private copies of protected works for private use. You are in your full right to record TV programs and make copies of you vinyls onto your PC etc. etc. This is way more liberal than in most other countries, but not yet enough for lots of people. There are some restrictions. First, this explicit right to make private copies does not extend to databases nor to computer programs. People scream out: But that is exactly what I want to make copies of, especially computer games! Second: You must create the copies yourself, with no "foreign assistance". If you go to a pirate website to download protected works, it is considered foreign assistance. People scream out: But that is where I find the stuff I want! Third: Copying is protected in a private context, but what is private and what isn't? It is clear that it extends beyond the core family: You are entitled to borrow a CD from a friend and make your own private copy of it. But if, say, the conductor of a 50 members chorus makes 50 copies of a recording of the work they will presenting at their Christmas concert, then it is not private: Anyone may join the chorus, the members are not necessarily personal friends or social bonds beyond that of the chorus - this is not considered "private", but organization activity. Bur people scream out: I sing in that chorus in my spare time - it is private! The lawmakers do not agree. Even if Norway may have the most liberal copyright laws of Europe, Norwegians complain at least as much as others. People who demand "Peace, liberty and everything for free" will never be satisfied.

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                • R Rage

                  In France, in 2013, they canceled a law stating that women were not allowed to wear trousers :-D It was about time.

                  Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                  kalberts
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                  Some years ago in the UK, there was a proposal to repeal the law requiring a man to walk in front of every railroad train waving a red flag as a warning. The proposal was turned down; in the House of Lords, the proposal was described as "cultural vandalism". (Brits are Brits... :-)) My favorite Norwegian law dates back to 1687 - it might make you smile, but it really is great: If an animal of one man's livestock atacks another man's animal and kills it, the owner of the animal that killed shall pay a compensation to the man whose animal was killed. If the killed animal was a better animal than the one killing, half its value shall be compensated. But if it was inferior to the one killing, the full value shall be compensated. So the farmer whose animal was killed mustweigh back and forth: Shall I admit that my livestock is inferior to my neighbour's, just to get the maximum compensation? Or should I hold that my livestock is the better one, and sacrify half the compensation?

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                  • S stoneyowl2

                    I wonder how long some of these will be on the books? Consider: In Alaska It is illegal to be drunk - in a bar In Chico, California it is illegal to build, own or use(!) a nuclear bomb In Connecticut only pickles that bounce may be legally sold In Florida it is illegal to sell your children In Idaho (and only Idaho) is it actively illegal to practice cannibalism (unless it is “consensual consumption” ) and many more. a large majority of these are still on the books. How long will COVID-19 laws stick around?

                    A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, navigate a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects! - Lazarus Long

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                    Slow Eddie
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                    I imagine it would be painful to be liquified and drunk anywhere, not just a bar in Alaska :laugh: :laugh:

                    Oh no! Mr. Bill!

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                    • K kalberts

                      That might be true for one specific kind of taxation. But taxes in the general sense are more than five thousand years old. Genesis 47,24: "But when the crop comes in, give a fifth of it to Pharaoh. The other four-fifths you may keep as seed for the fields and as food for yourselves and your households and your children" - and this is certainly not the oldest reference. Contributing to the maintenance of the society, and the military forces in particular, has been common for millennia. The taxes were not necessarily individual. Often taxes were laid on the farm, determined by the farm's growable land, livestock etc. The UK was no different - citizens had to pay their share of the expenses for all sorts of infrastructure, military forces etc. So taxes were nothing new in 1799. Only that one specific tax for financing the war against Napoleon. If you still consider your income tax as your share to fight against Napoleon: Maybe you should enjoy it! :-)

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                      Member 7989122 wrote:

                      Genesis 47,24: "But when the crop comes in, give a fifth of it to Pharaoh.

                      You could use a credible source.

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                      • S stoneyowl2

                        I wonder how long some of these will be on the books? Consider: In Alaska It is illegal to be drunk - in a bar In Chico, California it is illegal to build, own or use(!) a nuclear bomb In Connecticut only pickles that bounce may be legally sold In Florida it is illegal to sell your children In Idaho (and only Idaho) is it actively illegal to practice cannibalism (unless it is “consensual consumption” ) and many more. a large majority of these are still on the books. How long will COVID-19 laws stick around?

                        A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, navigate a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects! - Lazarus Long

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                        JohaViss61
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                        The UK has more than a few crazy laws: English law prohibits MPs from wearing armor inside the Houses of Parliament. (Would be more fun to watch :laugh: ) Do Not Flag Down a Taxi in London if You Have The Plague. (or Corona :doh: ) A Bad Reference Given by Your Employer is Libelous. Killing a Swan is an Act of Treason. Do Not Import Polish Potatoes into England. (Nothing about Polish people :cool:) Entering the Hull of the Titanic Requires State Permission.

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