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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    Because generally speaking we get paid a wage instead - and most employment contracts specify that everything created during the period of employment is the property of the employer, not the employee. It is possible to be a royalty - I have one on the real time software for a couple of products - but that's generally only agreed if you are a contractor and it reduces the up-front or hourly payments.

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    Slacker007
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    OriginalGriff wrote:

    Because generally speaking we get paid a wage instead - and most employment contracts specify that everything created during the period of employment is the property of the employer, not the employee.

    Exactly. and most of us get paid pretty damn well compared to other professions. So why look a gift horse in the mouth?

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      Developers are like songwriters, they should also get paid royalties. Why is this not standard industry practice?

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      Marc Clifton
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      codejet wrote:

      Developers are like songwriters, they should also get paid royalties.

      A song doesn't break. Do you want to also take on the liability for your bugs?

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        codejet wrote:

        Developers are like songwriters, they should also get paid royalties.

        A song doesn't break. Do you want to also take on the liability for your bugs?

        Latest Articles:
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        MadMyche
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        Marc Clifton wrote:

        A song doesn't break.

        But can make your ears bleed. Or... on a quality sound system could cause fine glassware to resonate and shatter

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          Developers are like songwriters, they should also get paid royalties. Why is this not standard industry practice?

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          MadMyche
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          Because the industry wants everything in open-source and free

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            Marc Clifton wrote:

            A song doesn't break.

            But can make your ears bleed. Or... on a quality sound system could cause fine glassware to resonate and shatter

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            Ron Anders
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            I am one. And would starve right now if it weren't for my wife.

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              codejet wrote:

              Developers are like songwriters, they should also get paid royalties.

              A song doesn't break. Do you want to also take on the liability for your bugs?

              Latest Articles:
              Abusing Extension Methods, Null Continuation, and Null Coalescence Operators

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              Mike Hankey
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              We don't write software with bugs do we?, I thought they are undocumented features...no extra charge.

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                Because the industry wants everything in open-source and free

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                dandy72
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                MadMyche wrote:

                Because the industry wants everything in open-source and free

                And before that, Steve Jobs convinced everyone "apps" should be $1.99 and no more. Yeah, as a matter of fact I do blame him for devaluing the freelancers. Seriously - where's the money in shareware today?

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                • C codejet

                  Developers are like songwriters, they should also get paid royalties. Why is this not standard industry practice?

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                  Lost User
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                  No standard but you can try and negotiate anything. First is on site versus off site, then you go from there. "On site" always runs the risk of being classed an employee if you can't show otherwise.

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                  • C codejet

                    Developers are like songwriters, they should also get paid royalties. Why is this not standard industry practice?

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                    j snooze
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                    Well, many good comments here, but for me the honest truth is I wouldn't know where to send my contract money based on the fact most of my code is copy/pasted from googling. I have no idea who wrote the original, but I have no intention of reinventing the wheel.

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                    • C codejet

                      Developers are like songwriters, they should also get paid royalties. Why is this not standard industry practice?

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                      Mycroft Holmes
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                      I used to have a manager who delighted in telling me how much the bank saved/made from the applications we developed, I delighted in the monthly payment he made to my account. We were both rather pleased with ourselves.

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                        Developers are like songwriters, they should also get paid royalties. Why is this not standard industry practice?

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                        Developers are like songwriters, they should also get paid royalties.

                        Where did you get the idea that most songwriters (and performers) get royalties? Most of them work for a wage, like software devs.

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