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  • E Exoskeletor

    we dont have to do this converstation. i dont want you to solve anything for me or toexplain what solving for me means. Lets take it from the beginning Facts: nobody wants to do the work for the other Problem: how to convert equation to c# With those facts in this problem where someone starts? as i pointed already in a previous post i try to convert this equation to maths (n!/(k!*(n-k)!)*(80-n)!/((20-k)!*((80-n)-(20-k))!))/(80!/(20!*(80-20)!)) and you said it is pretty clear i want you to do the work for me.. you are obvious wrong but lets not discuss that either if you still want to think im trying to find someone to do my the job.. great. (you should REALLY check what you think is pretty clear since you are posting very often here, my messages didnt at all show what you are saying, i have share many and many informations) Now to the point: i used this tool (as i methioned already in the previous posts) Converting math equations to C#[^] and it has create some Factorial() procedures, c# cant recognise them, those exist in a library or something

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    That's because C# doesn't contain a factorial function - but it's trivial to create one yourself, it's one of the first exercise beginners are often given. Recursive or iterative, it's simple either way:

        private static int FactorialRecursive(int x)
            {
            return (x > 1 ? x \* FactorialRecursive(x - 1) : 1);
            }
        private static int FactorialIterative(int x)
            {
            int f = 1;
            while (x > 1)
                {
                f \*= x--;
                }
            return f;
            }
    

    So why couldn't you just write those? Or google for them?

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      That's because C# doesn't contain a factorial function - but it's trivial to create one yourself, it's one of the first exercise beginners are often given. Recursive or iterative, it's simple either way:

          private static int FactorialRecursive(int x)
              {
              return (x > 1 ? x \* FactorialRecursive(x - 1) : 1);
              }
          private static int FactorialIterative(int x)
              {
              int f = 1;
              while (x > 1)
                  {
                  f \*= x--;
                  }
              return f;
              }
      

      So why couldn't you just write those? Or google for them?

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      Because maybe im missing something and this function exists. I dont prefer always solving anything by my own because im not sure if it the best approach. Thanks, i think ive got it from here. I will post again here only if i have code to post since i see that if i dont have code people here believe that i intentionally dont have code and i dont those negative situations. Thanks

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        Because maybe im missing something and this function exists. I dont prefer always solving anything by my own because im not sure if it the best approach. Thanks, i think ive got it from here. I will post again here only if i have code to post since i see that if i dont have code people here believe that i intentionally dont have code and i dont those negative situations. Thanks

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        I'm curious what your code will look like; you are in for a couple of surprises when you discover the difference between theory and practice... :)

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          I'm curious what your code will look like; you are in for a couple of surprises when you discover the difference between theory and practice... :)

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          Right now im at this:

              private int CalculateProbabilityOfDrawNumbersFromAllNumbers(int drawNumbers, int allNumbers)
              {
                  return ((Factorial(allNumbers) \* Factorial(80 - allNumbers)) / (((Factorial(80) \* ((Factorial(drawNumbers) \* Factorial(allNumbers - drawNumbers)) \* (Factorial(20 - drawNumbers) \* Factorial(((80 - allNumbers) - (20 - drawNumbers)))))) / (Factorial(20) \* Factorial(80 - 20)))));
              }
          
              private static int Factorial(int x)
              {
                  int f = 1;
                  while (x > 1)
                  {
                      f \*= x--;
                  }
                  return f;
              }
          

          which gives division by zero and i try to understand if something have gone wrong with all those parenthesis

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            Right now im at this:

                private int CalculateProbabilityOfDrawNumbersFromAllNumbers(int drawNumbers, int allNumbers)
                {
                    return ((Factorial(allNumbers) \* Factorial(80 - allNumbers)) / (((Factorial(80) \* ((Factorial(drawNumbers) \* Factorial(allNumbers - drawNumbers)) \* (Factorial(20 - drawNumbers) \* Factorial(((80 - allNumbers) - (20 - drawNumbers)))))) / (Factorial(20) \* Factorial(80 - 20)))));
                }
            
                private static int Factorial(int x)
                {
                    int f = 1;
                    while (x > 1)
                    {
                        f \*= x--;
                    }
                    return f;
                }
            

            which gives division by zero and i try to understand if something have gone wrong with all those parenthesis

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            investigate and learn! :)

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              investigate and learn! :)

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              thats what i said first!!!

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                Right now im at this:

                    private int CalculateProbabilityOfDrawNumbersFromAllNumbers(int drawNumbers, int allNumbers)
                    {
                        return ((Factorial(allNumbers) \* Factorial(80 - allNumbers)) / (((Factorial(80) \* ((Factorial(drawNumbers) \* Factorial(allNumbers - drawNumbers)) \* (Factorial(20 - drawNumbers) \* Factorial(((80 - allNumbers) - (20 - drawNumbers)))))) / (Factorial(20) \* Factorial(80 - 20)))));
                    }
                
                    private static int Factorial(int x)
                    {
                        int f = 1;
                        while (x > 1)
                        {
                            f \*= x--;
                        }
                        return f;
                    }
                

                which gives division by zero and i try to understand if something have gone wrong with all those parenthesis

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                Small hint: 80! is a number of about 120 decimal digits. An int can hold numbers up to roughly 9 digits.

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                  Small hint: 80! is a number of about 120 decimal digits. An int can hold numbers up to roughly 9 digits.

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                  that wasnt a hint!!! it appears to be the solution cause now this works

                  using System.IO;
                  using System;

                  class Program
                  {
                  static void Main()
                  {
                  Console.WriteLine(CalculateProbabilityOfDrawNumbersFromAllNumbers(1,1));
                  }
                  private static double CalculateProbabilityOfDrawNumbersFromAllNumbers(double drawNumbers, double allNumbers)
                  {
                  return Factorial(allNumbers) / (Factorial(drawNumbers) * Factorial(allNumbers - drawNumbers)) * (Factorial(80 - allNumbers) / (Factorial(20 - drawNumbers) * Factorial(80 - allNumbers - (20 - drawNumbers)))) / (Factorial(80) / (Factorial(20) * Factorial(80 - 20)));
                  }

                      private static double Factorial(double x)
                      {
                          double f = 1;
                          while (x > 1)
                          {
                              f \*= x--;
                          }
                          return f;
                      }
                  

                  }

                  im not sure why i was getting division by zero error. the int has surpass its largest number and return 0? i will use this crazy code to display it as a percentage without any unnecessary zeros in the end

                      Console.WriteLine((CalculateProbabilityOfDrawNumbersFromAllNumbers(12,12) \* 100).ToString("F7").TrimEnd(new Char\[\] { '0' } ).TrimEnd(new Char\[\] { '.' } )+"%");
                  
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                  • E Exoskeletor

                    that wasnt a hint!!! it appears to be the solution cause now this works

                    using System.IO;
                    using System;

                    class Program
                    {
                    static void Main()
                    {
                    Console.WriteLine(CalculateProbabilityOfDrawNumbersFromAllNumbers(1,1));
                    }
                    private static double CalculateProbabilityOfDrawNumbersFromAllNumbers(double drawNumbers, double allNumbers)
                    {
                    return Factorial(allNumbers) / (Factorial(drawNumbers) * Factorial(allNumbers - drawNumbers)) * (Factorial(80 - allNumbers) / (Factorial(20 - drawNumbers) * Factorial(80 - allNumbers - (20 - drawNumbers)))) / (Factorial(80) / (Factorial(20) * Factorial(80 - 20)));
                    }

                        private static double Factorial(double x)
                        {
                            double f = 1;
                            while (x > 1)
                            {
                                f \*= x--;
                            }
                            return f;
                        }
                    

                    }

                    im not sure why i was getting division by zero error. the int has surpass its largest number and return 0? i will use this crazy code to display it as a percentage without any unnecessary zeros in the end

                        Console.WriteLine((CalculateProbabilityOfDrawNumbersFromAllNumbers(12,12) \* 100).ToString("F7").TrimEnd(new Char\[\] { '0' } ).TrimEnd(new Char\[\] { '.' } )+"%");
                    
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                    Quote:

                    im not sure why i was getting division by zero error. the int has surpass its largest number and return 0?

                    Don't just let that go, think, think until you figured it out!

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                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                      So what's the problem? that link leads you through the process of getting a probability from the inputs, so what have you tried to implement it? Where are you stuck? What help do you need? (Other than "somebody else to do all the work for me" which isn't the idea of this site at all.)

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                      can you say it 10 more times :P i think it will help

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                      • E Exoskeletor

                        that wasnt a hint!!! it appears to be the solution cause now this works

                        using System.IO;
                        using System;

                        class Program
                        {
                        static void Main()
                        {
                        Console.WriteLine(CalculateProbabilityOfDrawNumbersFromAllNumbers(1,1));
                        }
                        private static double CalculateProbabilityOfDrawNumbersFromAllNumbers(double drawNumbers, double allNumbers)
                        {
                        return Factorial(allNumbers) / (Factorial(drawNumbers) * Factorial(allNumbers - drawNumbers)) * (Factorial(80 - allNumbers) / (Factorial(20 - drawNumbers) * Factorial(80 - allNumbers - (20 - drawNumbers)))) / (Factorial(80) / (Factorial(20) * Factorial(80 - 20)));
                        }

                            private static double Factorial(double x)
                            {
                                double f = 1;
                                while (x > 1)
                                {
                                    f \*= x--;
                                }
                                return f;
                            }
                        

                        }

                        im not sure why i was getting division by zero error. the int has surpass its largest number and return 0? i will use this crazy code to display it as a percentage without any unnecessary zeros in the end

                            Console.WriteLine((CalculateProbabilityOfDrawNumbersFromAllNumbers(12,12) \* 100).ToString("F7").TrimEnd(new Char\[\] { '0' } ).TrimEnd(new Char\[\] { '.' } )+"%");
                        
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                        im 99,99 percent sure that on overflow int will return 0 or -1 :P so this should be the issue

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                          im 99,99 percent sure that on overflow int will return 0 or -1 :P so this should be the issue

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                          It depends what it overflows from. For example if you add 1 to 2147483647 you will get -2147483648.

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                            It depends what it overflows from. For example if you add 1 to 2147483647 you will get -2147483648.

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                            Wow it really works as the counters we have in cars that counts kilometers? They start all over again from the beginning, only for integers we also have negative ones

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                            • E Exoskeletor

                              im 99,99 percent sure that on overflow int will return 0 or -1 :P so this should be the issue

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                              That is absolutely false. Your 99.99 percent isn't worth much, you haven't understood how integers typically work. Think again, and if necessary: experiment, observe, but stop guessing and "being sure". Here are three questions for you, first think about them; the answer is simple when you reason correctly. If you can't solve it, then try it, and search the explanation: 1. we all expect n! to be larger than (n-1)! and yet, with your original implementation this is not true for n=14, the value isn't larger, it is about 33% less!!! 2. multiplying positive numbers cannot ever yield a negative, and yet your code will claim 19! to be negative (no, not -1). 3. And finally, why is 34! the first one that returns zero... :)

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                                Wow it really works as the counters we have in cars that counts kilometers? They start all over again from the beginning, only for integers we also have negative ones

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                                Exoskeletor wrote:

                                Wow it really works as the counters we have in cars that counts kilometers?

                                Ehr.. no. Just look up how a PC stores numbers in binary, and the limitations of each number-"type".

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                                  That is absolutely false. Your 99.99 percent isn't worth much, you haven't understood how integers typically work. Think again, and if necessary: experiment, observe, but stop guessing and "being sure". Here are three questions for you, first think about them; the answer is simple when you reason correctly. If you can't solve it, then try it, and search the explanation: 1. we all expect n! to be larger than (n-1)! and yet, with your original implementation this is not true for n=14, the value isn't larger, it is about 33% less!!! 2. multiplying positive numbers cannot ever yield a negative, and yet your code will claim 19! to be negative (no, not -1). 3. And finally, why is 34! the first one that returns zero... :)

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                                  Overflow could cause positive + positive to be negative and the other way around from what i have read.

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                                    Exoskeletor wrote:

                                    Wow it really works as the counters we have in cars that counts kilometers?

                                    Ehr.. no. Just look up how a PC stores numbers in binary, and the limitations of each number-"type".

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                                    There was a time i new all those things in university but years have passed since, ok i have look them up

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                                      Overflow could cause positive + positive to be negative and the other way around from what i have read.

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                                      Certainly - and you would have an overflow exception as well. Unless you deliberately overlook it. If you don't specify any handling, but some default handler is called, it depends on this handler where execution continues. Maybe the storing of the (overflowed) result is skipped. If the sum variable was initially zero it may still be zero, if nothing is stored. Then: A factorial is never negative. So is it appropriate handle it as signed value at all? (You may still have an overflow, but if you ignore it, you have a true wraparound effect, like your car odometer)

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