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  • K Kevin Marois

    Has anyone used [Upwork](https://www.upwork.com/ppc/landing/?gclid=CjwKCAjwyo36BRAXEiwA24CwGXFt7LkGyx3BpFiVrh0K8dkAFEeIFtAOdrVDtXwabWYWqEXVZfRMWBoCZ0UQAvD\_BwE)? It seems to be some kind of freelance job search site. But they want to validate you by having you upload a copy of your ID. Seems suspicious to me.

    If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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    PIEBALDconsult
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    Pic of your middle finger might work.

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    • K Kevin Marois

      Has anyone used [Upwork](https://www.upwork.com/ppc/landing/?gclid=CjwKCAjwyo36BRAXEiwA24CwGXFt7LkGyx3BpFiVrh0K8dkAFEeIFtAOdrVDtXwabWYWqEXVZfRMWBoCZ0UQAvD\_BwE)? It seems to be some kind of freelance job search site. But they want to validate you by having you upload a copy of your ID. Seems suspicious to me.

      If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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      Daniel Pfeffer
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      It certainly sounds fishy to me. You are presumably required to show some sort of ID when opening a bank account, when starting employment, or when dealing with government offices. In all other cases - especially over the internet - I would be very suspicious.

      Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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      • P PIEBALDconsult

        Pic of your middle finger might work.

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        GuyThiebaut
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        Given my hands are busy on the keyboard and mouse it'll have to be a picture of something else.

        “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

        ― Christopher Hitchens

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        • K Kevin Marois

          Has anyone used [Upwork](https://www.upwork.com/ppc/landing/?gclid=CjwKCAjwyo36BRAXEiwA24CwGXFt7LkGyx3BpFiVrh0K8dkAFEeIFtAOdrVDtXwabWYWqEXVZfRMWBoCZ0UQAvD\_BwE)? It seems to be some kind of freelance job search site. But they want to validate you by having you upload a copy of your ID. Seems suspicious to me.

          If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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          ZurdoDev
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          Kevin Marois wrote:

          Seems suspicious to me.

          Whenever you have started a job, didn't they want a copy of your drivers license? It's the same thing.

          Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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          • Z ZurdoDev

            Kevin Marois wrote:

            Seems suspicious to me.

            Whenever you have started a job, didn't they want a copy of your drivers license? It's the same thing.

            Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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            Kevin Marois
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            They want a copy of you ID to validate you on their site

            If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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            • Z ZurdoDev

              Kevin Marois wrote:

              Seems suspicious to me.

              Whenever you have started a job, didn't they want a copy of your drivers license? It's the same thing.

              Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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              Daniel Pfeffer
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              If you are starting employment, then yes. I have yet to see a recruiter that required me to leave a copy of my ID; at most, they will ask to see it to verify my identity.

              Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                If you are starting employment, then yes. I have yet to see a recruiter that required me to leave a copy of my ID; at most, they will ask to see it to verify my identity.

                Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                ZurdoDev
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                I think Upwork enters you as an employee.

                Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                • K Kevin Marois

                  They want a copy of you ID to validate you on their site

                  If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                  ZurdoDev
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                  Correct. There's an echo in here.

                  Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                  • Z ZurdoDev

                    Correct. There's an echo in here.

                    Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                    Kevin Marois
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                    Validating you on their site, and giving an ID for a job are not the same thing

                    If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                    • K Kevin Marois

                      Validating you on their site, and giving an ID for a job are not the same thing

                      If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                      ZurdoDev
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                      Don't you become an employee by signing up?

                      Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                        Don't you become an employee by signing up?

                        Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                        Kevin Marois
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                        I dunno. I don't think so. They're just connecting you to open contract work as an independant. You don't become an employee at all.

                        If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                        • K Kevin Marois

                          Has anyone used [Upwork](https://www.upwork.com/ppc/landing/?gclid=CjwKCAjwyo36BRAXEiwA24CwGXFt7LkGyx3BpFiVrh0K8dkAFEeIFtAOdrVDtXwabWYWqEXVZfRMWBoCZ0UQAvD\_BwE)? It seems to be some kind of freelance job search site. But they want to validate you by having you upload a copy of your ID. Seems suspicious to me.

                          If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                          Stryder_1
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                          I tried it when I was laid off for several months about 2 years ago. I put some time into creating a profile as they suggested and then set aside time each day to review job listings and submit proposals. It didn't really pan out. The majority of listings equate to less then minimum wage here in the US. Several are those who want a complete clone of popular web sites, or some fantastic app they dreamed up, but only offer $100 and want it done in one week. Even for those listings that are reasonable, responses to my proposals were few, and those who did were people who seemed to be fishing for "partners" - in other words, they didn't actually have any funding. There was one opportunity that seemed promising and they offered me the work. Then I read the contract they wanted me to sign. Basically it said any project I have ever worked or will be working on belonged to them, regardless of whether it was contracted with them. There was a place to list all projects that I deemed "prior" work that would have excluded those. I explained to them that this was an unreasonable request. For one reason, there are projects I have worked on that I do not have ownership over and for confidentiality reasons I could not list these. Plus they were only looking for part-time to start, so this would have locked me out of other work. If those were not enough to keep me from signing, there was an actual statement that they "can exploit any and all of my work". I guess they were at least being honest about it. When I suggested we use the standard UpWork contract instead, their response was "All of our employees sign this." They reassured me that their lawyer insists this is perfectly fine, so I shouldn't worry. Well, I worried. I tried a couple of other freelance type sites as well, but I never had any luck with any of them either. Maybe if you are willing to work for very low returns, you might build up a reputation which could then lead to better paying gigs. I think they also have a "premium" membership. That might get you access to better listings. I only tried the free version. If you give it a try, I would be curious if much has changed.

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                          • Z ZurdoDev

                            Don't you become an employee by signing up?

                            Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                            PIEBALDconsult
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                            Surely not.

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                            • Z ZurdoDev

                              I think Upwork enters you as an employee.

                              Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                              PIEBALDconsult
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                              That would be unwise on their part. All that red tape and hassle when so few people who sign up will actually do any work.

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                                I tried it when I was laid off for several months about 2 years ago. I put some time into creating a profile as they suggested and then set aside time each day to review job listings and submit proposals. It didn't really pan out. The majority of listings equate to less then minimum wage here in the US. Several are those who want a complete clone of popular web sites, or some fantastic app they dreamed up, but only offer $100 and want it done in one week. Even for those listings that are reasonable, responses to my proposals were few, and those who did were people who seemed to be fishing for "partners" - in other words, they didn't actually have any funding. There was one opportunity that seemed promising and they offered me the work. Then I read the contract they wanted me to sign. Basically it said any project I have ever worked or will be working on belonged to them, regardless of whether it was contracted with them. There was a place to list all projects that I deemed "prior" work that would have excluded those. I explained to them that this was an unreasonable request. For one reason, there are projects I have worked on that I do not have ownership over and for confidentiality reasons I could not list these. Plus they were only looking for part-time to start, so this would have locked me out of other work. If those were not enough to keep me from signing, there was an actual statement that they "can exploit any and all of my work". I guess they were at least being honest about it. When I suggested we use the standard UpWork contract instead, their response was "All of our employees sign this." They reassured me that their lawyer insists this is perfectly fine, so I shouldn't worry. Well, I worried. I tried a couple of other freelance type sites as well, but I never had any luck with any of them either. Maybe if you are willing to work for very low returns, you might build up a reputation which could then lead to better paying gigs. I think they also have a "premium" membership. That might get you access to better listings. I only tried the free version. If you give it a try, I would be curious if much has changed.

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                                Jon McKee
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                                Pretty much my experience with other freelancing sites. Never used this one though. I really wonder if anyone ever accepts those contracts. "Yes, I will sign over my life's work and build an Amazon clone for less than 1/6th of my monthly rent! Sounds great!" :rolleyes:

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                                  Kevin Marois wrote:

                                  Seems suspicious to me.

                                  Whenever you have started a job, didn't they want a copy of your drivers license? It's the same thing.

                                  Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                  Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                                  Never in my life they asked me to show ID, not to say to give in a copy of it... Bank account details were sufficient...

                                  "The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012

                                  "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                                  • K Kevin Marois

                                    Has anyone used [Upwork](https://www.upwork.com/ppc/landing/?gclid=CjwKCAjwyo36BRAXEiwA24CwGXFt7LkGyx3BpFiVrh0K8dkAFEeIFtAOdrVDtXwabWYWqEXVZfRMWBoCZ0UQAvD\_BwE)? It seems to be some kind of freelance job search site. But they want to validate you by having you upload a copy of your ID. Seems suspicious to me.

                                    If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                                    NelsonGoncalves
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                                    I never used UpWork, but a long time (+8 years) ago I did use VWork. There was no requirement to provide ID, just a credit card I believe. The work was badly paid, because you had people from all over the world (with different living costs) competing. So it was mostly a race to the bottom, until I got a few positive reviews. Afterwards I was able to raise my fees but still nothing even in the same galaxy as a typical contract work for a customer. Overall I didn't dislike the experience. It was my first time doing contract work, and I learned a lot about how to engage with potential customers. It could be worth it if you want to create a network of potential customers, and continue to work with them after there is a mutual trust and an escrow site like UpWork is no longer necessary.

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                                    • K Kevin Marois

                                      Has anyone used [Upwork](https://www.upwork.com/ppc/landing/?gclid=CjwKCAjwyo36BRAXEiwA24CwGXFt7LkGyx3BpFiVrh0K8dkAFEeIFtAOdrVDtXwabWYWqEXVZfRMWBoCZ0UQAvD\_BwE)? It seems to be some kind of freelance job search site. But they want to validate you by having you upload a copy of your ID. Seems suspicious to me.

                                      If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                                      super
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                                      I did create an account and created profile in it long time ago . I don't remember the ID requirement but to be honest the pay offered by customers were rock bottom. There used to be a bidding system and me from Germany the price was too low to put in a honest effort.

                                      cheers,

                                      Super

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                                      • K Kevin Marois

                                        Has anyone used [Upwork](https://www.upwork.com/ppc/landing/?gclid=CjwKCAjwyo36BRAXEiwA24CwGXFt7LkGyx3BpFiVrh0K8dkAFEeIFtAOdrVDtXwabWYWqEXVZfRMWBoCZ0UQAvD\_BwE)? It seems to be some kind of freelance job search site. But they want to validate you by having you upload a copy of your ID. Seems suspicious to me.

                                        If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                                        Vaso Elias
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                                        There are lots of scammer registrations on Freelancer and possibly on Upwork, that's why they want to have some kind of validation. Could be also some money laundry prevention.

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                                          I tried it when I was laid off for several months about 2 years ago. I put some time into creating a profile as they suggested and then set aside time each day to review job listings and submit proposals. It didn't really pan out. The majority of listings equate to less then minimum wage here in the US. Several are those who want a complete clone of popular web sites, or some fantastic app they dreamed up, but only offer $100 and want it done in one week. Even for those listings that are reasonable, responses to my proposals were few, and those who did were people who seemed to be fishing for "partners" - in other words, they didn't actually have any funding. There was one opportunity that seemed promising and they offered me the work. Then I read the contract they wanted me to sign. Basically it said any project I have ever worked or will be working on belonged to them, regardless of whether it was contracted with them. There was a place to list all projects that I deemed "prior" work that would have excluded those. I explained to them that this was an unreasonable request. For one reason, there are projects I have worked on that I do not have ownership over and for confidentiality reasons I could not list these. Plus they were only looking for part-time to start, so this would have locked me out of other work. If those were not enough to keep me from signing, there was an actual statement that they "can exploit any and all of my work". I guess they were at least being honest about it. When I suggested we use the standard UpWork contract instead, their response was "All of our employees sign this." They reassured me that their lawyer insists this is perfectly fine, so I shouldn't worry. Well, I worried. I tried a couple of other freelance type sites as well, but I never had any luck with any of them either. Maybe if you are willing to work for very low returns, you might build up a reputation which could then lead to better paying gigs. I think they also have a "premium" membership. That might get you access to better listings. I only tried the free version. If you give it a try, I would be curious if much has changed.

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                                          ZurdoDev
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                                          Stryder_1 wrote:

                                          Well, I worried.

                                          I wouldn't have. First of all, they would never have known about any of your previous projects or future projects and something like that would not hold up in court anyway.

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