Washing Machines
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I'm hearing conflicting reports from various sources... - Front loading washing machines clean clothes better. - Top-loading washing machines clean better - They clean the same, but the [top/front] loading machines wear out your clothes faster than the [front/top] loaders because of [Reason X, Y, Z] - The agitator in the old style of washing machines was the problem, and the new style with impellers has fixed all of that Is the guy in the appliance store telling me what he simply wants me to think ? Or for that matter, is there any real difference in the first place ?
It's mostly a water efficiency issue; they all wash cloths. Old top loading machines were not water efficient; they used a lot of water. Then came front loading machine which were more water efficient; but the older ones were small as they were mostly European. Then came top loading machine that are now a lot more water efficient.
I'd rather be phishing!
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Front loading machines get moldy around the door and start to stink. It requires real discipline to prevent this, and we would never have one again given a choice (we're renting and a moldy front loader came with the house). A top loader also makes it easy to throw a forgotten item into the washer while it's running.
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The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.Two things to fix that: 1) Don't close the door fully right away - let the machine air out so it's dry before you close the door. Damp air is a breeding ground for fungi and molds. 2) Don't wash everything at a low temperature - I do one bi-monthly load at 60C or 90C to kill fungi. It's also worth running a pack of Dr. Beckmann Service-IT Washing Machine Cleaner[^] once a year or so. Our front loader is what? Ten? Fifteen years old? And it smells fine.
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It's mostly a water efficiency issue; they all wash cloths. Old top loading machines were not water efficient; they used a lot of water. Then came front loading machine which were more water efficient; but the older ones were small as they were mostly European. Then came top loading machine that are now a lot more water efficient.
I'd rather be phishing!
I honestly cannot see any technical relation between water consumption and front/top loading design.
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I'm hearing conflicting reports from various sources... - Front loading washing machines clean clothes better. - Top-loading washing machines clean better - They clean the same, but the [top/front] loading machines wear out your clothes faster than the [front/top] loaders because of [Reason X, Y, Z] - The agitator in the old style of washing machines was the problem, and the new style with impellers has fixed all of that Is the guy in the appliance store telling me what he simply wants me to think ? Or for that matter, is there any real difference in the first place ?
I agree with Greg. I had a front loader for a while and did not like it. It's hard to get clothes in and out. You have to always leave the door open when not in use and we'd always get bits of hair and dust stuck on the front because they don't drain as well. I recently bought a new washer and went back to top loader and like it much more. But, to each their own. They both do what they do.
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I'm hearing conflicting reports from various sources... - Front loading washing machines clean clothes better. - Top-loading washing machines clean better - They clean the same, but the [top/front] loading machines wear out your clothes faster than the [front/top] loaders because of [Reason X, Y, Z] - The agitator in the old style of washing machines was the problem, and the new style with impellers has fixed all of that Is the guy in the appliance store telling me what he simply wants me to think ? Or for that matter, is there any real difference in the first place ?
C-P-User-3 wrote:
is there any real difference in the first place ?
No. We are in 2020, if you target the top 3 brands, the machine are equivalent disregarding their design. Sellers have arguments to make you buy the one they are earning most from.
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I'm hearing conflicting reports from various sources... - Front loading washing machines clean clothes better. - Top-loading washing machines clean better - They clean the same, but the [top/front] loading machines wear out your clothes faster than the [front/top] loaders because of [Reason X, Y, Z] - The agitator in the old style of washing machines was the problem, and the new style with impellers has fixed all of that Is the guy in the appliance store telling me what he simply wants me to think ? Or for that matter, is there any real difference in the first place ?
If you live on your own you probably don't need a washing machine. I have been washing my clothes, by hand, with a plastic tub for around 5 years. The clothes end up just as clean as washing them in a machine. It also saves me on the electricity and water bill.
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I'm hearing conflicting reports from various sources... - Front loading washing machines clean clothes better. - Top-loading washing machines clean better - They clean the same, but the [top/front] loading machines wear out your clothes faster than the [front/top] loaders because of [Reason X, Y, Z] - The agitator in the old style of washing machines was the problem, and the new style with impellers has fixed all of that Is the guy in the appliance store telling me what he simply wants me to think ? Or for that matter, is there any real difference in the first place ?
Front-Load washing machine for the win :-D “A person is wise if he listens to millions of advice and doesn’t implement any of it.” – Michael Bassey Johnson
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Front loading machines get moldy around the door and start to stink. It requires real discipline to prevent this, and we would never have one again given a choice (we're renting and a moldy front loader came with the house). A top loader also makes it easy to throw a forgotten item into the washer while it's running.
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The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.I've had a front loader for 10 years, and the smell was a nuisance until I started running sanitize cycles. I started running a sanitation cycle every week-ish for mop heads and the really gross stuff, and it works pretty well. It's rare that I use any sort of cleaners inside the unit now.
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I'm hearing conflicting reports from various sources... - Front loading washing machines clean clothes better. - Top-loading washing machines clean better - They clean the same, but the [top/front] loading machines wear out your clothes faster than the [front/top] loaders because of [Reason X, Y, Z] - The agitator in the old style of washing machines was the problem, and the new style with impellers has fixed all of that Is the guy in the appliance store telling me what he simply wants me to think ? Or for that matter, is there any real difference in the first place ?
For me, front loaders are the better option, due to space requirements. I have a washer and dryer stacked in a closet off of my house's main hallway. I just slide a basket in front of the washer, open the door, and scoop them in. Took a while to figure out the mold issue, but they've been great otherwise.
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Front loading machines get moldy around the door and start to stink. It requires real discipline to prevent this, and we would never have one again given a choice (we're renting and a moldy front loader came with the house). A top loader also makes it easy to throw a forgotten item into the washer while it's running.
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I'm hearing conflicting reports from various sources... - Front loading washing machines clean clothes better. - Top-loading washing machines clean better - They clean the same, but the [top/front] loading machines wear out your clothes faster than the [front/top] loaders because of [Reason X, Y, Z] - The agitator in the old style of washing machines was the problem, and the new style with impellers has fixed all of that Is the guy in the appliance store telling me what he simply wants me to think ? Or for that matter, is there any real difference in the first place ?
I'm going to be putting in a grey water system at house we just bought. During research I've found Front loaders use way less water than toppers. I've had both and I'd say front loaders are easier on clothes also.
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I'm hearing conflicting reports from various sources... - Front loading washing machines clean clothes better. - Top-loading washing machines clean better - They clean the same, but the [top/front] loading machines wear out your clothes faster than the [front/top] loaders because of [Reason X, Y, Z] - The agitator in the old style of washing machines was the problem, and the new style with impellers has fixed all of that Is the guy in the appliance store telling me what he simply wants me to think ? Or for that matter, is there any real difference in the first place ?
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C-P-User-3 wrote:
Is the guy in the appliance store telling me what he simply wants me to think ?
He's in sales. What do you think?
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I'm hearing conflicting reports from various sources... - Front loading washing machines clean clothes better. - Top-loading washing machines clean better - They clean the same, but the [top/front] loading machines wear out your clothes faster than the [front/top] loaders because of [Reason X, Y, Z] - The agitator in the old style of washing machines was the problem, and the new style with impellers has fixed all of that Is the guy in the appliance store telling me what he simply wants me to think ? Or for that matter, is there any real difference in the first place ?
SWMBO would only allow a front loader, and I'm not about to argue with her.
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I'm hearing conflicting reports from various sources... - Front loading washing machines clean clothes better. - Top-loading washing machines clean better - They clean the same, but the [top/front] loading machines wear out your clothes faster than the [front/top] loaders because of [Reason X, Y, Z] - The agitator in the old style of washing machines was the problem, and the new style with impellers has fixed all of that Is the guy in the appliance store telling me what he simply wants me to think ? Or for that matter, is there any real difference in the first place ?
Get one with direct drive technology to reduce vibrations, noise and maintenance in the long term. If one day you need space you will be able to put your dryer on top of the washing machine if it's a front loading one. Be careful with the ones that save water... if the water in your place is not good enough they could not wash as expected. And my expertise with washing machines end here... Except Bosch and Siemens machines have (maybe had) a big round button that was manufactured in a machine I programmed a few years ago... Good luck with your new machine! :beer:
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I'm hearing conflicting reports from various sources... - Front loading washing machines clean clothes better. - Top-loading washing machines clean better - They clean the same, but the [top/front] loading machines wear out your clothes faster than the [front/top] loaders because of [Reason X, Y, Z] - The agitator in the old style of washing machines was the problem, and the new style with impellers has fixed all of that Is the guy in the appliance store telling me what he simply wants me to think ? Or for that matter, is there any real difference in the first place ?
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I'm hearing conflicting reports from various sources... - Front loading washing machines clean clothes better. - Top-loading washing machines clean better - They clean the same, but the [top/front] loading machines wear out your clothes faster than the [front/top] loaders because of [Reason X, Y, Z] - The agitator in the old style of washing machines was the problem, and the new style with impellers has fixed all of that Is the guy in the appliance store telling me what he simply wants me to think ? Or for that matter, is there any real difference in the first place ?
Thank you one and all. Your advice was most helpful and provided useful guidance. And the winner is: A front loading machine. It has a big dent and a scratched up front window. The washer and dryer don't match. It looks strange compared to the washers I've had in the past. (I got it at a scratch and dent outfit.) On the plus side; it works fantastically. Plus two: it gives you options for, I think, 500 (five hundred) different combinations of cycles. As for the problem with mold, well, the future will tell, but there is a vent-o-matic setting on this thing which you invoke after your last load of the day. It spins the tub/chamber/whatever at relatively low RPM, evidently (I'm guessing) to create a slight air flow through the high-tech venting system they have designed into the thing. The tub will spin at this low speed for a solid hour; two or three if needed; I think; whatever, a long time. I was astounded. When vent-o-matic was finished, every drop of moisture was gone from the window, tub surface, and the seal around the door. Again, the future will tell.
