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  • pkfoxP pkfox

    Hi and thanks for replying - I don't really understand the domain ownership part - if I want to completely sever links with my current provider how can I keep my domain name and email address ?

    "We can't stop here - this is bat country" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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    Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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    If I understand you correctly you not only 'enjoy' the email service but bought the domain name via the provider? If so you have to check in the registrar who listed as owner... Form that point it can get nasty...

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      Is you email address xxxx@123-reg.co.uk? If so, you are b*gg*r*d! Or is it xxxx@whatever-your-domain-is.com? If so, mail providers like Google will allow you to continue to use your own domain. Some fiddling about with MX records is, I think, all that is needed.

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      My email is myname@mydomain.com

      "We can't stop here - this is bat country" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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      • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

        If I understand you correctly you not only 'enjoy' the email service but bought the domain name via the provider? If so you have to check in the registrar who listed as owner... Form that point it can get nasty...

        "The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012

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        You understand correctly - whois shows 123-reg Limited as the registrar

        "We can't stop here - this is bat country" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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        • pkfoxP pkfox

          Hi all, I couldn't see anywhere else to post this so apologies if this is not the place. I have an account with an email provider 123-reg.co.uk who allow me to use a domain name of my choice I've been with them for years but lately their prices have increased exponentially. Two email accounts 5 years ago was £25.80 per year and it's now £86.00 - plus I have to renew the domain name every three years. I'm thinking of moving to another hosting company but want to retain my email address - is this doable ?

          "We can't stop here - this is bat country" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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          Try this: How to transfer a TLD domain away from 123 Reg | 123 Reg[^]

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            Try this: How to transfer a TLD domain away from 123 Reg | 123 Reg[^]

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            pkfox
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            Cheers Paul I've seen that but I wanted to get some advice here before I do anything - now the hunt for a new provider

            "We can't stop here - this is bat country" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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            • pkfoxP pkfox

              Hi all, I couldn't see anywhere else to post this so apologies if this is not the place. I have an account with an email provider 123-reg.co.uk who allow me to use a domain name of my choice I've been with them for years but lately their prices have increased exponentially. Two email accounts 5 years ago was £25.80 per year and it's now £86.00 - plus I have to renew the domain name every three years. I'm thinking of moving to another hosting company but want to retain my email address - is this doable ?

              "We can't stop here - this is bat country" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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              Sander Rossel
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              I had the same issue. In my case, the problem was that in order to get an email box I had to take a server with PHP MyAdmin, a few GB, possibility of hosting my own website... It was all or nothing, and that cost around what you say it does. If you have just the domain name, you should pay around €3 a year. It's a crazy price difference and it makes no sense there's nothing in between :confused: You could check if your provider added any services that explain the price increase and if you can disable any of those services. I'm currently hosting a website so I'm paying the full price. Also, I've heard of more providers increasing their prices like that because €25 a year for an email address isn't profitable, according to them.

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              • pkfoxP pkfox

                You understand correctly - whois shows 123-reg Limited as the registrar

                "We can't stop here - this is bat country" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                Now it can be something for lawyers... You have to check the agreement with the provider... It is probably not in your favor... In most cases that is the true profit, charge money for sale but actually rent it... You may come to terms with them peacefully, or wait until the 'rent' is over and buy it via a true domain seller (however it is not granted that your current provider will really release the name, they may hold to it to annoy you)... An other option is to dump the email service but keep the domain with them... In the best case scenario you can force them to list you as owner (which means they have the worst lawyers in the neighborhood)... EDIT: I saw OG's post - it seems you are good (I had very bad experience with a very similar situation some years ago)...

                "The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012

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                • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                  I had the same issue. In my case, the problem was that in order to get an email box I had to take a server with PHP MyAdmin, a few GB, possibility of hosting my own website... It was all or nothing, and that cost around what you say it does. If you have just the domain name, you should pay around €3 a year. It's a crazy price difference and it makes no sense there's nothing in between :confused: You could check if your provider added any services that explain the price increase and if you can disable any of those services. I'm currently hosting a website so I'm paying the full price. Also, I've heard of more providers increasing their prices like that because €25 a year for an email address isn't profitable, according to them.

                  Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                  There are plenty of bargain basement hosting companies that include email hosting (pop3 or imap) that only charge £2 - £3 a month. Or some do just email: try web hosting uk[^] - they charge £0.99 / month for email-only. You can transfer your domain name free-of-charge. The site includes instructions for how to do that. (I have no commercial relationship with webhosting.uk.com but one of my clients hosts their site there). But for £2.49/month you could host a couple of websites there, with unlimited email addresses, unlimited databases, either Windows or Linux, and give yourself a "proper" web presence as well as just your own email address.

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                  • pkfoxP pkfox

                    Hi all, I couldn't see anywhere else to post this so apologies if this is not the place. I have an account with an email provider 123-reg.co.uk who allow me to use a domain name of my choice I've been with them for years but lately their prices have increased exponentially. Two email accounts 5 years ago was £25.80 per year and it's now £86.00 - plus I have to renew the domain name every three years. I'm thinking of moving to another hosting company but want to retain my email address - is this doable ?

                    "We can't stop here - this is bat country" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                    Rich Leyshon
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                    Currently the company is able to charge you to retain the address with a new provider (e.g. BT charge £7.50 per month). OFCOM is currently looking into this issue and has expressed its displeasure at the current arrangement. Might be better to hold off and see what the outcome is.

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                    • pkfoxP pkfox

                      Hi and thanks for replying - I don't really understand the domain ownership part - if I want to completely sever links with my current provider how can I keep my domain name and email address ?

                      "We can't stop here - this is bat country" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                      Domain names can be transferred to other registrars, but the exact instructions likely depend on the registrar. As for the email address, several registrars offer mail services so if you move the domain, you can check if the new registrar does. If they don't, there are still other services that let you link your domain to their service, such as ProtonMail.

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                      • pkfoxP pkfox

                        You understand correctly - whois shows 123-reg Limited as the registrar

                        "We can't stop here - this is bat country" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                        Just maybe worth a try: I use NameCheap - and one of the things they let you do is use their email forwarding for free - even if they're not doing any business with you at all. I used this feature to move my email forwards away from evil GoDaddy and then transfer the domain seamlessly. That would let you redirect your email away from your own sleaze to any sort of account - like a yahaoo.com mail - and your senders wouldn't see the difference. When you send mail, however, you'll need a home-rolled SMTP application so you can put in any return address you like (instead of, for example, Your_Escape_To@Yahoo.com. Now, I also use them to host one website (their minimal level), and that is something else to look into (their pretty cheap and don't hide their renewal costs).

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                        • pkfoxP pkfox

                          You understand correctly - whois shows 123-reg Limited as the registrar

                          "We can't stop here - this is bat country" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                          I moved my stuff to another host but got stuck with the domain being managed by my original provider, however it all works fine. I pay the original provider/registrar (BizLand) every couple of years to keep the name going but everything else is hosted and handled by my new provider (DiscountASP) who provide an excellent service. I could move it I suppose but I didn't want to get into that tangled mess - it works fine as it is and BizLand don't charge too much for the name renewal.

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                            There are plenty of bargain basement hosting companies that include email hosting (pop3 or imap) that only charge £2 - £3 a month. Or some do just email: try web hosting uk[^] - they charge £0.99 / month for email-only. You can transfer your domain name free-of-charge. The site includes instructions for how to do that. (I have no commercial relationship with webhosting.uk.com but one of my clients hosts their site there). But for £2.49/month you could host a couple of websites there, with unlimited email addresses, unlimited databases, either Windows or Linux, and give yourself a "proper" web presence as well as just your own email address.

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                            Sounds good but if my current provider won't release the domain I'm stuffed

                            "We can't stop here - this is bat country" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                              Currently the company is able to charge you to retain the address with a new provider (e.g. BT charge £7.50 per month). OFCOM is currently looking into this issue and has expressed its displeasure at the current arrangement. Might be better to hold off and see what the outcome is.

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                              Thanks that's good to know

                              "We can't stop here - this is bat country" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                              • pkfoxP pkfox

                                Sounds good but if my current provider won't release the domain I'm stuffed

                                "We can't stop here - this is bat country" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                                DerekT P
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                                Even if they don't release the domain itelf, you should be able to change the nameserver to point to a 3rd party hosting, and cancel email provision with 123Reg. I'm pretty sure I've moved domains away from 123reg for clients in the past (might be 10 years ago, mind...)

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                                • pkfoxP pkfox

                                  Hi all, I couldn't see anywhere else to post this so apologies if this is not the place. I have an account with an email provider 123-reg.co.uk who allow me to use a domain name of my choice I've been with them for years but lately their prices have increased exponentially. Two email accounts 5 years ago was £25.80 per year and it's now £86.00 - plus I have to renew the domain name every three years. I'm thinking of moving to another hosting company but want to retain my email address - is this doable ?

                                  "We can't stop here - this is bat country" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                                  Choroid
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                                  I am not sure about the domain name part of your question I would suggest Proton Mail as a provider FREE and Paid Plans

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                                  • pkfoxP pkfox

                                    Cheers Paul I've seen that but I wanted to get some advice here before I do anything - now the hunt for a new provider

                                    "We can't stop here - this is bat country" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                                    I had half a dozen email addresses @eircom.net, which used to be an ISP in Ireland, but the current owner (now called Eir.ie) decided to start charging 6 euro a month per email address. Not going to spend over 200 quid for just the email, so I registered a domain -- I'm currently using www.spiralhosting.com for hosting (with their cheapest hosting plan because I only wanted some email) and it's working well, 49 euro for as many email accounts as I want. I did register the domain with a different organisation but I gather you already have that.

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