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  • Z Zmau Z

    Hello all, What are the things that one might want to consider when requesting your own domain ? The general idea is to have my own mail address, so I can replace my provider. While we are at it, maybe I will have email addresses for the whole family... What are the pits and palls ? How much money does it cost ? Can I have my domain for good ? Or do I have to pay for it on a yearly basis ? Thanks zmau

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    Bruce Patin
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    The domain name will itself cost you a yearly fee. An option when you get a domain name is to make it private by going through another organization that takes your place in the WHO lookup. That will cost an additional fee. More expensive, but still not that much, is the server itself, which may be Linux or Windows, shared or dedicated, and usually includes email for as many as you like. I have my own domain address and shared server with a dedicated IP address for about $200 per year.

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    • Z Zmau Z

      Hello all, What are the things that one might want to consider when requesting your own domain ? The general idea is to have my own mail address, so I can replace my provider. While we are at it, maybe I will have email addresses for the whole family... What are the pits and palls ? How much money does it cost ? Can I have my domain for good ? Or do I have to pay for it on a yearly basis ? Thanks zmau

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      K Personett
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      I have {mylastname}.org, have had it for a couple decades. Costs: Domain Name Registation: I renew for multipole years at a time. The .org registration has gone up in recent years. Your cost will vary depending upon the top level domain. Easiest, but not the cheapest, is godaddy for maintain the name registration. DNS: I use a free DNS provider (freedns.afraid.org). As it states... free! I used to handle DNS on my own servers back when I own a small hosting business, but freedns.afrain.org is a piece of cake to work with. I write (C++) and run my own mail server on a Windows Server machine located at my employer's colocation (they've allowed this no charged for over a decade now). Again... Free. Only potential pitfall is ensuring that DNS I occasionally touch the DNS so that it does not get cancelled due to lack of administrative use. Hasn't happened in all of my time at freedns.afraid.org. So, aside from domain name registration, which I usually renew in 5 year chunks, no real monthly or annual costs.

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      • Z Zmau Z

        Hello all, What are the things that one might want to consider when requesting your own domain ? The general idea is to have my own mail address, so I can replace my provider. While we are at it, maybe I will have email addresses for the whole family... What are the pits and palls ? How much money does it cost ? Can I have my domain for good ? Or do I have to pay for it on a yearly basis ? Thanks zmau

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        Hooga Booga
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        I read recently that some domain providers "rent" the domain name to you, but they own it. They do that to keep you on their site and can increase costs from year to year and not allowing you to move to other domain providers. Read the contract carefully.

        Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend; inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -- Groucho Marx

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        • Z Zmau Z

          Hello all, What are the things that one might want to consider when requesting your own domain ? The general idea is to have my own mail address, so I can replace my provider. While we are at it, maybe I will have email addresses for the whole family... What are the pits and palls ? How much money does it cost ? Can I have my domain for good ? Or do I have to pay for it on a yearly basis ? Thanks zmau

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          Hoosier Daddy
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          Lots of places to get a domain from. While not a fan of Alphabet, I use Google Domains. $12/year with free anonymity. I've been using Namecheap's email service for a while. I pay by the year and watch for sales. Last sales I was able to add an extra year twice for cheap (would only allow one year per transaction but suspect they may not have thought to prevent repeat orders).

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          • F F ES Sitecore

            He was making a "joke" :) There is a catchphrase "master of your domain" that he was referring to. Please don't google what it means though :)

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            Stan Rydz
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            LOL. The sure way to insure that someone googles something is to tell them not to. I'm a perfect example.

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            • E Eek Ten Bears

              When I was at the University, a few years ago (well OK quite a few but never mind) I did a course in technical writing. One of the main points of one lesson was being very careful when using common expressions as you would throw a curve ball at someone who knew not what a curve ball was. I feel this was such a moment. For those still in the 1950s and refusing to watch any US based media a curve-ball is a baseball term for a ball thrown with spin which curves in the air and so confuses the person trying to hit it. Its became US slang for something which confuses, especially something new that looks straightforward but causes complete failure. In recent years its become much more commonly used so its not just those funny Americans who know it, but still the point is good. Master of Your Domain is, obviously, not so well known - which killed the Joke :sigh: Not all lost though I laughed at it :laugh:

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              bryanren
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              Might be fun to have a few of those idioms from other languages. Either in that tongue or translated. There is a Korean phrase that translates to: "its as easy as laying down eating cake". I have no idea how it is written. And probably would not enunciate it correctly aurally.

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              • F Forogar

                Having your own domain involves: - Paying annually for the domain name (I pay for two or three years at a time because it's cheaper). - Paying to host your web-site (if you care to have one, I use DiscountASP.NET because I can avoid paying for a database option I don't use.). - Paying to host a mail-host (usually included with the web-site hosting. - Administering the email system. Within the email set-up you can add lots of email addresses such as wife@mydomain.com, daughter@mydomain.com, son@mydomain.com, masterofthedomain@mydomain.com and finally a handy catchall@mydomain.com which you can forward junk to to be auto-deleted. Lot's of options! If I signup for something that might end up sending me lots of junk mail I normally create a mailbox for that thing, such as SomeCompany@mydomain.com, which I then check use for any communication with "Some Company". From this i can usually tell if they have sold my name to other mailing lists because spam mail is addressed to "SomeCompany@mydomain.com" - you set these to auto-delete regularly.

                - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                DerekT P
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                _Forogar_ wrote:

                a handy catchall@mydomain.com which you can forward junk to to be auto-deleted

                When I have to "sign up" with sites in order to do anything useful, I generally use a unique "non-existent" email name at my domain that identifies the company I'm dealing with. E.g. I might use "codeproject@mydomain.com", "amazon@mydomain.com", "taxman@mydomain.com" etc. As "undefined" email addresses they all get redirected to my catch-all box, but they retain the original email. That means I can use my email application's rules to sort or delete as I wish (e.g. sorting into different folders to separate work / leisure / admin sources; then regardless of the actual sending address I can categorise automatically). But also, if I start getting spam on one of those addresses I know exactly who is "to blame" for leaking / selling my address.

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                • Z Zmau Z

                  Hello all, What are the things that one might want to consider when requesting your own domain ? The general idea is to have my own mail address, so I can replace my provider. While we are at it, maybe I will have email addresses for the whole family... What are the pits and palls ? How much money does it cost ? Can I have my domain for good ? Or do I have to pay for it on a yearly basis ? Thanks zmau

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                  DerekT P
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                  One downside is that you'll get spam. Lots of it, much of it very unpleasant. None of it is personal, so don't take it to heart. When choosing a domain, think long-term. If it *might* be used for business some time, don't choose a "silly" domain name. Don't choose anything too long (I made that mistake; sometimes my email address doesn't fit in forms - even online ones. My excuse is that I chose my domain in the 1990s when people didn't use email much anyway. If you do choose a hosting provider in order to put up a website, ideally check that they support unlimited subdomains. Then you can have sites like mywork.mydomain.com, myhobby.mydomain.com, myfamily.mydomain.com I find this invaluable, especially as a freelance developer. Each client gets their own subdomain, entirely independent of everything else, for testing and user acceptance e.g. client1.mydomain.com, client2.mydomain.com etc (the names are a little less predictable than that). I've also got a whole raft of independent subdomains for various hobbies and special interest sites. (No, not that sort of special interest). As others have said, make sure that SSL is included - many cheap hosting providers integrate support for LetsEncrypt, a free SSL certificate issuer.

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                  • F F ES Sitecore

                    He was making a "joke" :) There is a catchphrase "master of your domain" that he was referring to. Please don't google what it means though :)

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                    bVagadishnu
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                    F-ES Sitecore wrote:

                    Please don't google what it means though

                    Please don't DuckDuckGo what it means though Does not quite resonate...

                    But I never wave bye bye

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                    • L Lost User

                      I got a domain name and a one-page self-administered web site for $3.00 per year, on the 3 year plan. It comes with a bunch of mail boxes. I'll think about my next move in 3 years.

                      It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food

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                      RobertWTurner
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                      Where abouts?

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                        _Forogar_ wrote:

                        a handy catchall@mydomain.com which you can forward junk to to be auto-deleted

                        When I have to "sign up" with sites in order to do anything useful, I generally use a unique "non-existent" email name at my domain that identifies the company I'm dealing with. E.g. I might use "codeproject@mydomain.com", "amazon@mydomain.com", "taxman@mydomain.com" etc. As "undefined" email addresses they all get redirected to my catch-all box, but they retain the original email. That means I can use my email application's rules to sort or delete as I wish (e.g. sorting into different folders to separate work / leisure / admin sources; then regardless of the actual sending address I can categorise automatically). But also, if I start getting spam on one of those addresses I know exactly who is "to blame" for leaking / selling my address.

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                        Forogar
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                        I think I mentioned that that was what I did.

                        - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                        • R RobertWTurner

                          Where abouts?

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                          Lost User
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                          HostPapa

                          It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food

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