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    I am attempting to migrate some of our custom-created in-house software to the cloud. I've done the basic research, but have yet to put the pieces together to form a simple basic task that truly employs something that is cloud-based. Can anyone point me to a suitable resource? I'm pretty intelligent, and understand the general concept of cloud computing, but need to know the nuts and bolts. Thanks in advance.

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      I am attempting to migrate some of our custom-created in-house software to the cloud. I've done the basic research, but have yet to put the pieces together to form a simple basic task that truly employs something that is cloud-based. Can anyone point me to a suitable resource? I'm pretty intelligent, and understand the general concept of cloud computing, but need to know the nuts and bolts. Thanks in advance.

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      The nightmare begins. Containers. Docker instances. AWS. Azure. Goofy names for things. AWS documentation hell. Security issues. Performance issues. AWS Lambda vs. Azure Functions vs. Google Cloud Functions. Monitoring cost. Updating the cloud with new releases. And on and on and on. So the real question is, why?

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        The nightmare begins. Containers. Docker instances. AWS. Azure. Goofy names for things. AWS documentation hell. Security issues. Performance issues. AWS Lambda vs. Azure Functions vs. Google Cloud Functions. Monitoring cost. Updating the cloud with new releases. And on and on and on. So the real question is, why?

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        Because it's fashionable? :-D

        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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        "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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          I am attempting to migrate some of our custom-created in-house software to the cloud. I've done the basic research, but have yet to put the pieces together to form a simple basic task that truly employs something that is cloud-based. Can anyone point me to a suitable resource? I'm pretty intelligent, and understand the general concept of cloud computing, but need to know the nuts and bolts. Thanks in advance.

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          It depends on what you have. For example, if you want to move an IIS website then you could go to an App Service in Azure. If you want to move a SQL db (or others) to the cloud you want Azure Sql. Windows Services have lots of options. So, depends on what exactly you are doing.

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            It depends on what you have. For example, if you want to move an IIS website then you could go to an App Service in Azure. If you want to move a SQL db (or others) to the cloud you want Azure Sql. Windows Services have lots of options. So, depends on what exactly you are doing.

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            We currently have multiple software packages programmed in C# and use multiple SQL databases. I don't have a preference to AWS, Azure, or any other platform yet. Sounds to me if I understand you correctly, that Azure is going to be our best option. The big obstacle right now is that some of our software receives external input from devices connected to a computer (weight scales). Moving to a browser-based interface is presenting significant challenges to us because we operate under governmental security guidelines (FISMA, etc.)

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              The nightmare begins. Containers. Docker instances. AWS. Azure. Goofy names for things. AWS documentation hell. Security issues. Performance issues. AWS Lambda vs. Azure Functions vs. Google Cloud Functions. Monitoring cost. Updating the cloud with new releases. And on and on and on. So the real question is, why?

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              Why indeed! Simple answer is that the government is forcing us to do so. I have fought them with logic and disputed their reasoning for 3 years now and it's like talking to a wall. We either comply or they don't allow our software to handle the inspection data that we generate, which they lay claim to (although even that is disputable IMO). Long story short - I don't exactly want to because what we have works great, but we have to at least look like we're progressing toward that end.

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                We currently have multiple software packages programmed in C# and use multiple SQL databases. I don't have a preference to AWS, Azure, or any other platform yet. Sounds to me if I understand you correctly, that Azure is going to be our best option. The big obstacle right now is that some of our software receives external input from devices connected to a computer (weight scales). Moving to a browser-based interface is presenting significant challenges to us because we operate under governmental security guidelines (FISMA, etc.)

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                Keefer S wrote:

                We currently have multiple software packages programmed in C# a

                Again, it depends on if they are windows app, console app, web sites, windows services, etc.

                Keefer S wrote:

                I don't have a preference to AWS, Azure, or any other platform ye

                If you have .Net programs you likely have .Net developers and so the learning curve for them to get into the cloud will be easier to stay with Microsoft, hence Azure.

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                  The nightmare begins. Containers. Docker instances. AWS. Azure. Goofy names for things. AWS documentation hell. Security issues. Performance issues. AWS Lambda vs. Azure Functions vs. Google Cloud Functions. Monitoring cost. Updating the cloud with new releases. And on and on and on. So the real question is, why?

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                  Marc Clifton wrote:

                  So the real question is, why?

                  Funny. For some of us the cloud actually simplifies things. :-D

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                    Marc Clifton wrote:

                    So the real question is, why?

                    Funny. For some of us the cloud actually simplifies things. :-D

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                    Do you work for the NSA?

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                      Do you work for the NSA?

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                      Greg Utas wrote:

                      Do you work for the NSA?

                      Depends. Do you want me to let people know what you did last summer?

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                        Because it's fashionable? :-D

                        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                        Don't forget shiny.

                        If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.

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                          Keefer S wrote:

                          We currently have multiple software packages programmed in C# a

                          Again, it depends on if they are windows app, console app, web sites, windows services, etc.

                          Keefer S wrote:

                          I don't have a preference to AWS, Azure, or any other platform ye

                          If you have .Net programs you likely have .Net developers and so the learning curve for them to get into the cloud will be easier to stay with Microsoft, hence Azure.

                          Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                          Keefer S
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                          Thanks. We are indeed using .NET so I agree that Azure is going to be the obvious choice. We currently are wanting to move toward a browser based interface to help support the cloud efforts. We currently have plans in place to move to .NET5 later this year, so we'll focus our efforts on getting familiar with Azure as our cloud platform. Thanks for the helpful feedback! :cool:

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                            We currently have multiple software packages programmed in C# and use multiple SQL databases. I don't have a preference to AWS, Azure, or any other platform yet. Sounds to me if I understand you correctly, that Azure is going to be our best option. The big obstacle right now is that some of our software receives external input from devices connected to a computer (weight scales). Moving to a browser-based interface is presenting significant challenges to us because we operate under governmental security guidelines (FISMA, etc.)

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                            Keefer S wrote:

                            Moving to a browser-based interface is presenting significant challenges to us because we operate under governmental security guidelines (FISMA, etc.)

                            and yet they are insisting on you moving everything into 'the cloud' which basically means your software and data sitting on someone else's machines. That makes little sense to me. Oh sorry I forgot, you mentioned the word government...

                            “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                            ― Christopher Hitchens

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                              Keefer S wrote:

                              Moving to a browser-based interface is presenting significant challenges to us because we operate under governmental security guidelines (FISMA, etc.)

                              and yet they are insisting on you moving everything into 'the cloud' which basically means your software and data sitting on someone else's machines. That makes little sense to me. Oh sorry I forgot, you mentioned the word government...

                              “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

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                              Keefer S
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                              Believe me when I say that I've had this exact argument with them for 3 years. Also been arguing that .NET is not disappearing in the next year or two!

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                                Believe me when I say that I've had this exact argument with them for 3 years. Also been arguing that .NET is not disappearing in the next year or two!

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                                Keefer S wrote:

                                Also been arguing that .NET is not disappearing in the next year or two!

                                I know some places where Windows XP is still running stuff... (but to be fair... they are only connected to a local and isolated network of 3 or 4 computers without external access, but still XP 32 bit)

                                M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                  Greg Utas wrote:

                                  Do you work for the NSA?

                                  Depends. Do you want me to let people know what you did last summer?

                                  Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                  Sure, let them live vicariously. :)

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                                  • K Keefer S

                                    I am attempting to migrate some of our custom-created in-house software to the cloud. I've done the basic research, but have yet to put the pieces together to form a simple basic task that truly employs something that is cloud-based. Can anyone point me to a suitable resource? I'm pretty intelligent, and understand the general concept of cloud computing, but need to know the nuts and bolts. Thanks in advance.

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                                    kmoorevs
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                                    Of course you could just get an Azure VM Server. If you will have multiple sql databases, this would be the cheaper route. Technically, it is still 'in the cloud'. I have over 5 years experience with Azure WebApps using Azure SQL Server. It was very easy to setup and get going. We are in the process of moving the web apps and one remaining database to an Azure VM for multiple reasons: 0: Much cheaper 1: Better user experience since apps and databases are on the same box 2: Control over the environment Just my 2 cents. :)

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                                      I am attempting to migrate some of our custom-created in-house software to the cloud. I've done the basic research, but have yet to put the pieces together to form a simple basic task that truly employs something that is cloud-based. Can anyone point me to a suitable resource? I'm pretty intelligent, and understand the general concept of cloud computing, but need to know the nuts and bolts. Thanks in advance.

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                                      If you know what a virtual machine is, then you understand cloud computing.

                                      It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food

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                                        If you know what a virtual machine is, then you understand cloud computing.

                                        It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food

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                                        Gerry Schmitz wrote:

                                        If you know what a virtual machine is, then you understand cloud computing.

                                        In all the similar threads about cloud that I have seen, this is the best "graphical" example I can relate to.

                                        M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                          Because it's fashionable? :-D

                                          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                                          Marc Clifton
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                                          OriginalGriff wrote:

                                          Because it's fashionable?

                                          Clouds are the portent of rain and sleet and snow and hurricanes and thunderstorms. ;)

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