Downside of using Hand brake while waiting ?
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The first time I hired a car in the UK, I was afraid the pedals would also be inverted. Fortunately, no. I thought shifting with my left hand might be difficult, but again no. The main problem was looking the wrong way when entering traffic, so I almost wore out my neck double- and even triple-checking. :-D
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The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.For me, it was roundabouts in France - not only did I have to remember to go round the wrong way and exit at the wrong exit, but I had to struggle with " Priorité à droite" which meant that (on some roundabouts) you give way to traffic joining instead of traffic already going round.
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So basically due to injury in one of my legs, I have to reduce the strain on my legs for a few weeks. Driving is not the issue but when in city and waiting for signals, I have to keep my legs on the brake to prevent the car from going forward or backward (neutral gear) due to inclinations and I do not want to keep pressing on the brake. So What I do it using my hand brake to keep the car still. Whats is the downside of it ?
cheers,
Super
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For me, it was roundabouts in France - not only did I have to remember to go round the wrong way and exit at the wrong exit, but I had to struggle with " Priorité à droite" which meant that (on some roundabouts) you give way to traffic joining instead of traffic already going round.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
There aren't many roundabouts on this side of the pond, but fortunately more are starting to show up.
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So basically due to injury in one of my legs, I have to reduce the strain on my legs for a few weeks. Driving is not the issue but when in city and waiting for signals, I have to keep my legs on the brake to prevent the car from going forward or backward (neutral gear) due to inclinations and I do not want to keep pressing on the brake. So What I do it using my hand brake to keep the car still. Whats is the downside of it ?
cheers,
Super
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not much. My Dad had polio when he was a kid. His left leg never was strong nor was his right leg all that. He always did this for 60+ years of driving. Nothing ever was wrong with the Emergency Brake. And yet he drove a stick shift most of those years. He would lift his leg with his left hand to place it on the clutch and then work around to get everything going. Never had any real issue.
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So basically due to injury in one of my legs, I have to reduce the strain on my legs for a few weeks. Driving is not the issue but when in city and waiting for signals, I have to keep my legs on the brake to prevent the car from going forward or backward (neutral gear) due to inclinations and I do not want to keep pressing on the brake. So What I do it using my hand brake to keep the car still. Whats is the downside of it ?
cheers,
Super
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Greg Utas wrote:
Assuming the hand brake controls a cable, it could eventually fail from overuse
You set the handbrake after every drive, and it stays set until the next drive. Given that most of us spend most of our time out of the car, I doubt the handbrake will fail because of a few extra pulls.
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OTOH a lot of people don't use their handbrake, ever - especially those who drive an automatic transmission. The risk here is that unless it's regularly used, the handbrake cable will be seized/severely rusted, and it just might snap when you do try to use it. Or it'll stay applied when you try to take it off. My dad worked as a mechanic for over 4 decades, and his advice on that topic is, if you never use it, don't start out of the blue--for the reason stated above.
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So basically due to injury in one of my legs, I have to reduce the strain on my legs for a few weeks. Driving is not the issue but when in city and waiting for signals, I have to keep my legs on the brake to prevent the car from going forward or backward (neutral gear) due to inclinations and I do not want to keep pressing on the brake. So What I do it using my hand brake to keep the car still. Whats is the downside of it ?
cheers,
Super
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My "German" car recommends, when it is safe to do so, engaging the hand brake to slow the car every so often (and gave some reason I can't remember off-hand). It notes that your brake lights don't come on; so you have to still tap the brake if you want to show you're braking. The downside is forgetting to disengage it (I guess).
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OTOH a lot of people don't use their handbrake, ever - especially those who drive an automatic transmission. The risk here is that unless it's regularly used, the handbrake cable will be seized/severely rusted, and it just might snap when you do try to use it. Or it'll stay applied when you try to take it off. My dad worked as a mechanic for over 4 decades, and his advice on that topic is, if you never use it, don't start out of the blue--for the reason stated above.
:confused: Don't you always set the hand brake when parking your car? In many countries, it's required by law, and it's always a good idea - especially if parking on a slope.
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So basically due to injury in one of my legs, I have to reduce the strain on my legs for a few weeks. Driving is not the issue but when in city and waiting for signals, I have to keep my legs on the brake to prevent the car from going forward or backward (neutral gear) due to inclinations and I do not want to keep pressing on the brake. So What I do it using my hand brake to keep the car still. Whats is the downside of it ?
cheers,
Super
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My 6 years old car is hand shifting but I have (and use) the "hill assistant". If the motor is on and there is no gear, when you release the break the car breaks for himself. And if you switch the motor off, it pulls the park break automatically. Very comfortable.
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:confused: Don't you always set the hand brake when parking your car? In many countries, it's required by law, and it's always a good idea - especially if parking on a slope.
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Whether *I* do it or not isn't relevant to the matter at hand. I'm just repeating what a guy who fixed cars for decades for a living had seen countless times. [Edit] Apparently not in this country (I'm in Canada)--or else there's a lot of lawbreakers. Besides, how do you enforce that?
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So basically due to injury in one of my legs, I have to reduce the strain on my legs for a few weeks. Driving is not the issue but when in city and waiting for signals, I have to keep my legs on the brake to prevent the car from going forward or backward (neutral gear) due to inclinations and I do not want to keep pressing on the brake. So What I do it using my hand brake to keep the car still. Whats is the downside of it ?
cheers,
Super
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Well, this entire thread has been a massive eye-opener to me. Turns out I've been doing it right all along (as I knew), but everybody else does it wrong! As the highway code states, when the vehicle behind has stopped, you should engage the handbrake and take your foot off the pedal. I always do this by habit, whether at traffic lights, junctions, queuing traffic etc. It makes common sense - I don't want to sit around applying pressure to the brake the whole time. When starting off again, my left foot is on the clutch, right foot on accelerator (gas to some of you), so there is no available foot left to hold the brake! That's OK on the level, but not on a hill; so you apply a little "gas", gradually feed in the clutch till it bites, then release the handbrake and off you go. Why would anyone do it differently? (All happens naturally in under a second, but more smoothly than holding it by footbrake) (My first - and only significant - crash, driving a company car, was when I rear-ended a colleague, also driving a company car. He'd stopped ahead of me on a narrow road to let traffic come through the other way, and engaged handbrake before I'd stopped behind him. I saw his brake lights go off, so accelerated - realising too late he was still stationary. Not a happy phone call to the fleet manager. Hardly my fault though! :laugh: ) In the UK the (vast?) majority of cars are manual, and it always scares the hell out of me when I see (in real life or American movies) automatics pull up, doors open, then the car gives an almighty lurch as ... driver puts it in park? Dunno what that's all about. As for steering, the "push/pull" feeding the wheel through the hands made sense when cars didn't have power steering. In practice only learners still do this, but most of us in the UK will avoid crossing our hands over, I think. Modern steering is light enough that you can normally steer one-handed with the ball of the thumb pressed against the wheel. Stefan Lang - yes, I do that. There are lots of narrow, bendy lanes without pavements round here and when walking, I'd rather cross the road and walk an extra 20 yards than complete my journey by ambulance. It never ceases to amaze me, when driving, to come across people walking on the wrong side of a (straight) road, or walking on the "blind" side round a bend. Sheer stupidity. Next you'll be telling me you don't change down through the gears when slowing down... :wtf:
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Not even slightly. Unless an auto is in Park it's effectively in neutral, and can roll back to hit the car behind. Since you are supposed to use your right foot to work the brake and throttle, you need the handbrake on to pull away. Don't blame me, a lot of serious grey men in serious grey suits nibbled biscuits and sipped tea really quietly for weeks while discussing (in committee of course) every nuance of those rules ...
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OriginalGriff wrote:
Unless an auto is in Park it's effectively in neutral, and can roll back to hit the car behind.
Not in a Tesla. By default, when you press the brake until/when the vehicle is stopped, it stays in "Hold" mode until you depress either the brake or accelerator. [This is an option that can be configured away, but this is the default behaviour.]
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So basically due to injury in one of my legs, I have to reduce the strain on my legs for a few weeks. Driving is not the issue but when in city and waiting for signals, I have to keep my legs on the brake to prevent the car from going forward or backward (neutral gear) due to inclinations and I do not want to keep pressing on the brake. So What I do it using my hand brake to keep the car still. Whats is the downside of it ?
cheers,
Super
------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it
super wrote:
So basically due to injury in one of my legs, I have to reduce the strain on my legs for a few weeks. Driving is not the issue but when in city and waiting for signals, I have to keep my legs on the brake to prevent the car from going forward or backward (neutral gear) due to inclinations and I do not want to keep pressing on the brake. So What I do it using my hand brake to keep the car still. Whats is the downside of it ?
Drive a Tesla and the problem is solved for you. If you have the Autopilot option, you really just need to get the car in gear when you get in and start off with some acceleration and you can control the rest of your journey mostly with your hands. The car accelerates, brakes and waits at traffic lights on its own. If you feel like doing the driving yourself, pushing the brake at a traffic light will put it in "Hold" mode, and a tap on the accelerator ("gas" sic) when the light is green will start it moving again.
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In Germany I got stopped by the police because I hadn't turned off my fog lights once I got out of the fog.
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That's indeed a law in Germany, but only the back fog light, because it's so bright. More precisely, you are only allowed to switch it (i. e. the back fog light) on when you can't see past 50m. The front fog lights may be switched on any time. And it does make sense - I don't know about cars in other countries, but in germany, the back fog light is so bright, it's worse than a car coming your way with high-beam head lamps pointing your way! You pretty much have to avert your gaze, or else you'll see nothing else on the road.
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There are also rules on the use of headlamp flashers which are the exact inverse of what they are actually used for in the real world. In theory - and you have to know this and demonstrate that on your driving test - you only use the headlight flashers to warn other drivers of your presence. In practice you flash others to say "come on through, I'll wait until you are past", or "get out of my way, I'm faster than you" :laugh:
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OriginalGriff wrote:
"get out of my way, I'm faster than you"
Sounds fine to me: you simply
OriginalGriff wrote:
warn other drivers of your presence
;P
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The first time I hired a car in the UK, I was afraid the pedals would also be inverted. Fortunately, no. I thought shifting with my left hand might be difficult, but again no. The main problem was looking the wrong way when entering traffic, so I almost wore out my neck double- and even triple-checking. :-D
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The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.Greg Utas wrote:
The first time I hired a car in the UK, I was afraid the pedals would also be inverted. Fortunately, no. I thought shifting with my left hand might be difficult, but again no.
For me it was simple: just do everything the other way round compared to what I was used to. The hardest part was getting back to normal when I returned to the continent - after training hard to always do it the other way round, I had lost my point of reference :-D
GOTOs are a bit like wire coat hangers: they tend to breed in the darkness, such that where there once were few, eventually there are many, and the program's architecture collapses beneath them. (Fran Poretto)
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For me, it was roundabouts in France - not only did I have to remember to go round the wrong way and exit at the wrong exit, but I had to struggle with " Priorité à droite" which meant that (on some roundabouts) you give way to traffic joining instead of traffic already going round.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
I have to admit that french roundabouts are a killer! X| But once you got to (and survived) Paris, you'll forget anything about rules anyway: everyone just goes whereever there's room, while watching out for others who do just that! I once read that a good way to cross main roads in Paris (Champs-Elysee or whatever), is getting a newspaper, opening and holding it up in front of you, and then crossing the street oblivious to the cars: since everyone is watching out for idiots like you they'll drive around you no problem. :wtf: The alternative is watching cars passing left and right who won't make way for you as long as you don't move. (yes there are pedestrian crossings, and they are being used... by the tourists ;P )
GOTOs are a bit like wire coat hangers: they tend to breed in the darkness, such that where there once were few, eventually there are many, and the program's architecture collapses beneath them. (Fran Poretto)
