Azure DevOps...
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Dev and Ops not the same thing; if you can afford it, you separate them. Like a plumber/electrical engineer. You might get more profit selling your people, but one is not the other.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
Well I'm just quoting the title... be more specific? :)
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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Anyone here have a development organization that might/is/has transitioned to this product? I don't want to drink the MS cool-aid but it looks pretty impressive. But it's not my $$ :) Would love to hear some feedback... --------------------------------------------- Clarification: I mainly work in an embedded development shop and about all of our processes are manual. We have a few scripts to do builds plus Bugzilla and Subversion. I'd appreciate thoughts on how to slowly jump into the Azure pool.
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
We use it as source control and build machine...
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
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Well I'm just quoting the title... be more specific? :)
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
More specific, a plumbgeneer is an allrounder, but master of neither. Not doing anything cloudy; here, we own our data.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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More specific, a plumbgeneer is an allrounder, but master of neither. Not doing anything cloudy; here, we own our data.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
lol, what you have a PhD posting obscure comments and more obscure follow up? :)
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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We use it as source control and build machine...
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
Are you a pure MS shop? Any customization?
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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Are you a pure MS shop? Any customization?
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Part of the build is actually an agent we host on our server... Also have steps in our pipelines, like minification and publish to multiple targets that we wrote... We also have a 'project' that we use to host certain versions of libraries for NuGet (a total control over versions and updates)...
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
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Dev and Ops not the same thing; if you can afford it, you separate them. Like a plumber/electrical engineer. You might get more profit selling your people, but one is not the other.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
If you can afford it, you don't separate them! I've had to manage multiple people for my kitchen. First electricity and plumbing, then the kitchen, then the walls and then the floors. It's impossible to get all those separate people on the same schedule. And then the plumber will put the plumbing wrong because they've never even met the kitchen guy. Oh, and that outlet is NOT where the microwave is supposed to come, but luckily the kitchen guy knows a thing or two about that. It also takes two months because the kitchen guy has time tomorrow or four weeks from now, but the electrician can't come until the day after tomorrow... Also, the floor people come a day early and the kitchen isn't ready yet. Wouldn't be great if all these people were on the same team so they could actually discuss how to best install my kitchen? It would take a week instead of two months and the amount of "bugs" (wrong placement of outlets etc.) would be way less! That's what DevOps is all about...
Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly
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Anyone here have a development organization that might/is/has transitioned to this product? I don't want to drink the MS cool-aid but it looks pretty impressive. But it's not my $$ :) Would love to hear some feedback... --------------------------------------------- Clarification: I mainly work in an embedded development shop and about all of our processes are manual. We have a few scripts to do builds plus Bugzilla and Subversion. I'd appreciate thoughts on how to slowly jump into the Azure pool.
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
We're using Azure DevOps. To be honest, I don't find it as conceptually clear or easy to use as GitHub (or Gitea or several other open source products), but maybe that's because it's 'Enterprise'...
Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p
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Anyone here have a development organization that might/is/has transitioned to this product? I don't want to drink the MS cool-aid but it looks pretty impressive. But it's not my $$ :) Would love to hear some feedback... --------------------------------------------- Clarification: I mainly work in an embedded development shop and about all of our processes are manual. We have a few scripts to do builds plus Bugzilla and Subversion. I'd appreciate thoughts on how to slowly jump into the Azure pool.
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
My company uses it for everything and we have a huge organization with code all over the place, including all the code for Mac and Linux and mobile. It is now more tied to Git than to TFS, so it really doesn't matter what you are coding. The web interface works, so you are no longer tied to only using Visual Studio's installed UI. Have the things compile and terraform to linux docker containers with .net core, so cross-platform is a cinch. Management, PMs, Devs, everyone is in it daily.
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Anyone here have a development organization that might/is/has transitioned to this product? I don't want to drink the MS cool-aid but it looks pretty impressive. But it's not my $$ :) Would love to hear some feedback... --------------------------------------------- Clarification: I mainly work in an embedded development shop and about all of our processes are manual. We have a few scripts to do builds plus Bugzilla and Subversion. I'd appreciate thoughts on how to slowly jump into the Azure pool.
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Good stuff, but the AZ DevOps 400 course had errors in it in the example YAML code. First one I encounter was a simple syntax error. Second one stopped me in my tracks. From what I was able to get from others who'd taken the training, they make changes to Azure DevOps and the training isn't necessarily updated accordingly. I provided MS feedback a month or more ago and have heard nothing.
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Anyone here have a development organization that might/is/has transitioned to this product? I don't want to drink the MS cool-aid but it looks pretty impressive. But it's not my $$ :) Would love to hear some feedback... --------------------------------------------- Clarification: I mainly work in an embedded development shop and about all of our processes are manual. We have a few scripts to do builds plus Bugzilla and Subversion. I'd appreciate thoughts on how to slowly jump into the Azure pool.
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
we were using it for the DevOps, but moved to Github. Now we just use it for App registrations so we can use it for Auth. But no plans for having any hosted apps running on it. Too expensive and cumbersome, and we would still have to pipe a channel to our database servers to work with the data, just not worth it IMO.
