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    ZurdoDev
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    Signed up for a site that had the following password requirements: Must be 8-16 characters Must contain at least one number Must contain at least one lower case letter Must contain at least one upper case letter Must contain one of the following special characters: @ # $ % ^ + = * _ . ? Cannot include a ! or & Cannot start with a ? Cannot have same character repeated more than 2 times in a row (e.g. aaa) Cannot be the same as your user name Very annoying. However, they do not validate the password hint field. I put my password into the hint field and it was accepted. Both the devs and the QAs missed that one. :laugh: :laugh:

    Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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      Signed up for a site that had the following password requirements: Must be 8-16 characters Must contain at least one number Must contain at least one lower case letter Must contain at least one upper case letter Must contain one of the following special characters: @ # $ % ^ + = * _ . ? Cannot include a ! or & Cannot start with a ? Cannot have same character repeated more than 2 times in a row (e.g. aaa) Cannot be the same as your user name Very annoying. However, they do not validate the password hint field. I put my password into the hint field and it was accepted. Both the devs and the QAs missed that one. :laugh: :laugh:

      Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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      dandy72
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      ZurdoDev wrote:

      Both the devs and the QAs missed that one.

      How's that saying go again, if you make something foolproof enough, the universe will just come up with a better fool...? I hope there's nothing you consider important in that system.

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        ZurdoDev wrote:

        Both the devs and the QAs missed that one.

        How's that saying go again, if you make something foolproof enough, the universe will just come up with a better fool...? I hope there's nothing you consider important in that system.

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        ZurdoDev
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        dandy72 wrote:

        I hope there's nothing you consider important in that system.

        It's actually Microsoft's Digital Store or something like that. I attended Ignite recently and got a coupon for their digital site. They do have Windows 10 for $40. And deluxe Flight Sim for $60. Too bad I don't need either one.

        Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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          Signed up for a site that had the following password requirements: Must be 8-16 characters Must contain at least one number Must contain at least one lower case letter Must contain at least one upper case letter Must contain one of the following special characters: @ # $ % ^ + = * _ . ? Cannot include a ! or & Cannot start with a ? Cannot have same character repeated more than 2 times in a row (e.g. aaa) Cannot be the same as your user name Very annoying. However, they do not validate the password hint field. I put my password into the hint field and it was accepted. Both the devs and the QAs missed that one. :laugh: :laugh:

          Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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          What annoys me are the sites that insist you sign up with your email address (understandable, they can send a confirmation link to it) but who validate emails to contain the special characters '.' and '@' only ... So they don't accept my email, which has a hyphen ... :sigh: Mailinator, how are you today? Great, got a sign up for you ... :laugh:

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            dandy72 wrote:

            I hope there's nothing you consider important in that system.

            It's actually Microsoft's Digital Store or something like that. I attended Ignite recently and got a coupon for their digital site. They do have Windows 10 for $40. And deluxe Flight Sim for $60. Too bad I don't need either one.

            Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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            CodeWraith
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            Win10 is for masochists and flight simulators are for those who are scared of flying. Good for you when you don't need them. :-)

            I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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              What annoys me are the sites that insist you sign up with your email address (understandable, they can send a confirmation link to it) but who validate emails to contain the special characters '.' and '@' only ... So they don't accept my email, which has a hyphen ... :sigh: Mailinator, how are you today? Great, got a sign up for you ... :laugh:

              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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              Only worried about a hyphen ??? Some of these coding genius' essentially block entire domains - I own a .info domain for well over a decade - and it's rejected (> 3 chars). There are a huge number of domains (just from ICANN). I guess that's the internet and of no concern. Basically, it was bound to happen eventually:   the script kiddies are now employed, and employed in places where one might actually run into their opus'.

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                Win10 is for masochists and flight simulators are for those who are scared of flying. Good for you when you don't need them. :-)

                I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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                ZurdoDev
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                CodeWraith wrote:

                Win10 is for masochists

                And those that like to earn a great living developing Microsoft software. :laugh:

                Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                  Signed up for a site that had the following password requirements: Must be 8-16 characters Must contain at least one number Must contain at least one lower case letter Must contain at least one upper case letter Must contain one of the following special characters: @ # $ % ^ + = * _ . ? Cannot include a ! or & Cannot start with a ? Cannot have same character repeated more than 2 times in a row (e.g. aaa) Cannot be the same as your user name Very annoying. However, they do not validate the password hint field. I put my password into the hint field and it was accepted. Both the devs and the QAs missed that one. :laugh: :laugh:

                  Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                  Super Lloyd
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                  Bah! It's nothing! I will bet it didn't even complained the password was already in use! :O ;P

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                    Signed up for a site that had the following password requirements: Must be 8-16 characters Must contain at least one number Must contain at least one lower case letter Must contain at least one upper case letter Must contain one of the following special characters: @ # $ % ^ + = * _ . ? Cannot include a ! or & Cannot start with a ? Cannot have same character repeated more than 2 times in a row (e.g. aaa) Cannot be the same as your user name Very annoying. However, they do not validate the password hint field. I put my password into the hint field and it was accepted. Both the devs and the QAs missed that one. :laugh: :laugh:

                    Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                    Slacker007
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                    I personally do not mind the lengthy requirements for passwords. It beats the alternative, IMHO.

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                      I personally do not mind the lengthy requirements for passwords. It beats the alternative, IMHO.

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                      ZurdoDev
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                      Slacker007 wrote:

                      It beats the alternative

                      Non lengthy requirements? I'm good with that.

                      Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                        I personally do not mind the lengthy requirements for passwords. It beats the alternative, IMHO.

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                        My employer says we're going to sixteen-character passwords next month. :wtf:

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                          CodeWraith wrote:

                          Win10 is for masochists

                          And those that like to earn a great living developing Microsoft software. :laugh:

                          Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                          Good answer.

                          Software Zen: delete this;

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                            My employer says we're going to sixteen-character passwords next month. :wtf:

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                            Maximilien
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                            You will need 2 post-its to remember it.

                            I'd rather be phishing!

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                              My employer says we're going to sixteen-character passwords next month. :wtf:

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                              My employer just recently implemented 2-factor authentication. It took me 18 text messages and over 3 hours to get everything working again, and I'll get to do it monthly. I'm campaigning now for a job number to charge for the time it takes to change my password. It takes 4 text messages to get back into my laptop, Skype, Teams and the corporate intranet, 2 each for the 5 servers I'm responsible for, and another 4 to get my phone authorized. And the passwords have to be 9+ characters, at least 1 number, at least one upper case letter, at least one lower case letter and at least one special character, no more than 2 of any character in a row, and can't match any of your 12 previous passwords. I guess it's just one of the hazards of working for a multinational company based in Europe; my previous employer was pretty much at the other end of the spectrum - the CEO's user id and password were both "chris".

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                                What annoys me are the sites that insist you sign up with your email address (understandable, they can send a confirmation link to it) but who validate emails to contain the special characters '.' and '@' only ... So they don't accept my email, which has a hyphen ... :sigh: Mailinator, how are you today? Great, got a sign up for you ... :laugh:

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                                bVagadishnu
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                                I was quite annoyed when an email was required for confirmation but... MyName@.Myaddress.net was not accepted as valid (.net is not accepted in their version of email address)

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                                  Signed up for a site that had the following password requirements: Must be 8-16 characters Must contain at least one number Must contain at least one lower case letter Must contain at least one upper case letter Must contain one of the following special characters: @ # $ % ^ + = * _ . ? Cannot include a ! or & Cannot start with a ? Cannot have same character repeated more than 2 times in a row (e.g. aaa) Cannot be the same as your user name Very annoying. However, they do not validate the password hint field. I put my password into the hint field and it was accepted. Both the devs and the QAs missed that one. :laugh: :laugh:

                                  Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                  Rick York
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                                  Ours does not prohibit various characters but it prohibits words found in their directory. I find that very annoying because most of my passwords involve my opinion of this policy. What bugs me most about the whole thing is the frequency of changing passwords - currently every three months or four times per year. I am OK with strong passwords but if the password is so strong why should we have to change it so often? I think that is counter-productive and only serves to increase potential risk.

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                                    Ours does not prohibit various characters but it prohibits words found in their directory. I find that very annoying because most of my passwords involve my opinion of this policy. What bugs me most about the whole thing is the frequency of changing passwords - currently every three months or four times per year. I am OK with strong passwords but if the password is so strong why should we have to change it so often? I think that is counter-productive and only serves to increase potential risk.

                                    "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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                                    ZurdoDev
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                                    Agreed.

                                    Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                      Ours does not prohibit various characters but it prohibits words found in their directory. I find that very annoying because most of my passwords involve my opinion of this policy. What bugs me most about the whole thing is the frequency of changing passwords - currently every three months or four times per year. I am OK with strong passwords but if the password is so strong why should we have to change it so often? I think that is counter-productive and only serves to increase potential risk.

                                      "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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                                      Nelek
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                                      Rick York wrote:

                                      What bugs me most about the whole thing is the frequency of changing passwords - currently every three months or four times per year.

                                      We had to change it every 6 weeks during almost a year in a previous company... eventually a top manager had problems and then we went to once every 6 months.

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                                        Rick York wrote:

                                        What bugs me most about the whole thing is the frequency of changing passwords - currently every three months or four times per year.

                                        We had to change it every 6 weeks during almost a year in a previous company... eventually a top manager had problems and then we went to once every 6 months.

                                        M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                        While I dislike frequent pw changes, from a corporate point of view, it presents some "window" in which they know that stolen or lost passwords will become useless.

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                                          What annoys me are the sites that insist you sign up with your email address (understandable, they can send a confirmation link to it) but who validate emails to contain the special characters '.' and '@' only ... So they don't accept my email, which has a hyphen ... :sigh: Mailinator, how are you today? Great, got a sign up for you ... :laugh:

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                                          David Crow
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                                          OriginalGriff wrote:

                                          Mailinator, how are you today?

                                          I use this ALL the time. I've only found one site that didn't allow it.

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