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  • 5 5teveH

    Yes. £7000.00 per day - which is circa £1.5m p.a. That's what the UK Government is paying out to consultants working on Track & Trace. OK, it's not quite that simple. Most UK Public bodies have preferred supplier lists, and top of the IT preferred suppliers will be the big consultancies - such as EY, Deloitte, KPMG, and in this case BCG. The big consultancies have no expertise in delivering what's required, so sub-contract it to big recruitment agencies. They sub it out to specialist agencies, who then find the contractors. I'm sure the contractors are being paid well, but they are getting nowhere close to the other parts of the supply chain. I don't know what's more depressing: the stupidity of the Government or the greed of the huge companies creaming it in during a world-wide crisis. Coronavirus: Test and Trace consultants paid equivalent of £1.5m salary | Business News | Sky News[^]

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    This is why the app is still not going anywhere near my phone ... :laugh:

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      This is why the app is still not going anywhere near my phone ... :laugh:

      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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      I have the App - and it is underwhelming, to say the least! My reasons for downloading it are: I'm at the higher end of the risk category, but more importantly, my in-laws (for whom my wife is the carer) are in their 90s and very fragile. One having suffered a heart attack and stroke; the other with a heart condition and high blood pressure. I have very little confidence in the App, but.... What if? I just have to do whatever I can to minimise the risk for them - even if it's downloading some stupid, pointless App. :(

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        I have the App - and it is underwhelming, to say the least! My reasons for downloading it are: I'm at the higher end of the risk category, but more importantly, my in-laws (for whom my wife is the carer) are in their 90s and very fragile. One having suffered a heart attack and stroke; the other with a heart condition and high blood pressure. I have very little confidence in the App, but.... What if? I just have to do whatever I can to minimise the risk for them - even if it's downloading some stupid, pointless App. :(

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        I also downloaded it but it seemed of limited use. Being also in a high risk age group we are careful to keep within our bubble and keep any other contacts to a minimum and well controlled. I belong to a lunch club for retired men in our locality, one of whom is a retired professor of medicine. He gave us an interesting talk on the virus via zoom the other day. If you think the government is scaremongering, then think again.

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        • 5 5teveH

          Yes. £7000.00 per day - which is circa £1.5m p.a. That's what the UK Government is paying out to consultants working on Track & Trace. OK, it's not quite that simple. Most UK Public bodies have preferred supplier lists, and top of the IT preferred suppliers will be the big consultancies - such as EY, Deloitte, KPMG, and in this case BCG. The big consultancies have no expertise in delivering what's required, so sub-contract it to big recruitment agencies. They sub it out to specialist agencies, who then find the contractors. I'm sure the contractors are being paid well, but they are getting nowhere close to the other parts of the supply chain. I don't know what's more depressing: the stupidity of the Government or the greed of the huge companies creaming it in during a world-wide crisis. Coronavirus: Test and Trace consultants paid equivalent of £1.5m salary | Business News | Sky News[^]

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          I think the article says "Executives" get paid that much and regular consultants get paid a fraction of that. Which is not entirely out of the norm for Executives to make 1+ million pounds/dollars a year for anything. The slightly elevated salary is par for the course where demand outweighs supply, and no one cares about quality. Being a Capitalist myself, this does not offend me or startle me in the slightest.

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            This is why the app is still not going anywhere near my phone ... :laugh:

            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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            I'd have the app but not being of the "got to have the very latest version" generation, my (perfectly serviceable) 5-year old Android phone won't even show it in the app store. For all the millions spent on it, they're excluding millions more people, many of whom will fall into the "higher risk" categories.

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            • 5 5teveH

              Yes. £7000.00 per day - which is circa £1.5m p.a. That's what the UK Government is paying out to consultants working on Track & Trace. OK, it's not quite that simple. Most UK Public bodies have preferred supplier lists, and top of the IT preferred suppliers will be the big consultancies - such as EY, Deloitte, KPMG, and in this case BCG. The big consultancies have no expertise in delivering what's required, so sub-contract it to big recruitment agencies. They sub it out to specialist agencies, who then find the contractors. I'm sure the contractors are being paid well, but they are getting nowhere close to the other parts of the supply chain. I don't know what's more depressing: the stupidity of the Government or the greed of the huge companies creaming it in during a world-wide crisis. Coronavirus: Test and Trace consultants paid equivalent of £1.5m salary | Business News | Sky News[^]

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              Vikram A Punathambekar
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              Well, it's supposed to be World Beating!

              Cheers, विक्रम "We have already been through this, I am not going to repeat myself." - fat_boy, in a global warming thread :doh:

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              • 5 5teveH

                Yes. £7000.00 per day - which is circa £1.5m p.a. That's what the UK Government is paying out to consultants working on Track & Trace. OK, it's not quite that simple. Most UK Public bodies have preferred supplier lists, and top of the IT preferred suppliers will be the big consultancies - such as EY, Deloitte, KPMG, and in this case BCG. The big consultancies have no expertise in delivering what's required, so sub-contract it to big recruitment agencies. They sub it out to specialist agencies, who then find the contractors. I'm sure the contractors are being paid well, but they are getting nowhere close to the other parts of the supply chain. I don't know what's more depressing: the stupidity of the Government or the greed of the huge companies creaming it in during a world-wide crisis. Coronavirus: Test and Trace consultants paid equivalent of £1.5m salary | Business News | Sky News[^]

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                We had our fair share too here in Sweden with them [Boston Elephanting Group] Consultants with a high hourly fee could invoice, by explicit contract, 15 hours daily, regardless of the number of hours spent.

                "If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"

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                  I'd have the app but not being of the "got to have the very latest version" generation, my (perfectly serviceable) 5-year old Android phone won't even show it in the app store. For all the millions spent on it, they're excluding millions more people, many of whom will fall into the "higher risk" categories.

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                  That's exactly my problem with Android. I've stopped buying Android devices at 6.0 after getting burnt repeatedly with promises of upgradability. It hasn't happened *once*, and I own 4 Android-based tablets. You know what they say about repeating the same thing and expecting a different outcome. In the end, it's my money that's being wasted, and this sheep has had enough. My dad bought an Android phone (heck of an upgrade from his previous flip-phone) after buying a new SUV in part because there's an app for it that can display all sorts of things, including remote start. The phone (brand new) came with Android 9, and the manufacturer's vehicle app crashes repeatedly right after showing its splash screen. I suspect they've never bothered testing with his particular phone model. But then, I don't know what hardware dependency it might be looking for. It should all be software-upgradable IMO, if only they bothered. I'm of the belief that *everything* based around Android becomes abandonware in no time. Given how quickly Google abandons all sorts of projects, I'm not surprised...as a result, as a developer, it's NOT a platform I want to support. Say what you will about the Windows Phone - mine kept receiving regular updates *years* after the pundits declared it dead.

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                    We had our fair share too here in Sweden with them [Boston Elephanting Group] Consultants with a high hourly fee could invoice, by explicit contract, 15 hours daily, regardless of the number of hours spent.

                    "If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"

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                    This would not fly here in the States for government contracts, as the the bucket of money is not overflowing as in the private sectors.

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                    • 5 5teveH

                      Yes. £7000.00 per day - which is circa £1.5m p.a. That's what the UK Government is paying out to consultants working on Track & Trace. OK, it's not quite that simple. Most UK Public bodies have preferred supplier lists, and top of the IT preferred suppliers will be the big consultancies - such as EY, Deloitte, KPMG, and in this case BCG. The big consultancies have no expertise in delivering what's required, so sub-contract it to big recruitment agencies. They sub it out to specialist agencies, who then find the contractors. I'm sure the contractors are being paid well, but they are getting nowhere close to the other parts of the supply chain. I don't know what's more depressing: the stupidity of the Government or the greed of the huge companies creaming it in during a world-wide crisis. Coronavirus: Test and Trace consultants paid equivalent of £1.5m salary | Business News | Sky News[^]

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                      Modern Capitalism at its finest!!!!!

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                      • 5 5teveH

                        Yes. £7000.00 per day - which is circa £1.5m p.a. That's what the UK Government is paying out to consultants working on Track & Trace. OK, it's not quite that simple. Most UK Public bodies have preferred supplier lists, and top of the IT preferred suppliers will be the big consultancies - such as EY, Deloitte, KPMG, and in this case BCG. The big consultancies have no expertise in delivering what's required, so sub-contract it to big recruitment agencies. They sub it out to specialist agencies, who then find the contractors. I'm sure the contractors are being paid well, but they are getting nowhere close to the other parts of the supply chain. I don't know what's more depressing: the stupidity of the Government or the greed of the huge companies creaming it in during a world-wide crisis. Coronavirus: Test and Trace consultants paid equivalent of £1.5m salary | Business News | Sky News[^]

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                        Democracy only works with well informed voters. No country has those; it's a popularity contest and a show.

                        5teveH wrote:

                        I don't know what's more depressing: the stupidity of the Government or the greed of the huge companies creaming it in during a world-wide crisis.

                        So, you new to this planet? Government wants to keep paid. Companies go for max profit. Nothing new there. The costs don't matter either. It's called evolution.

                        Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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