A comprehensive list of reasons why pair programming sucks
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I fell in love with programming because of the feeling of losing myself in ideas and concepts while being completely alone for hours on end.
I hope they worked with someone else on this list
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I fell in love with programming because of the feeling of losing myself in ideas and concepts while being completely alone for hours on end.
I hope they worked with someone else on this list
Hours yes; hyperproductive in the zone. That's no longer allowed with agile. Gotta "stand up" in time.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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I fell in love with programming because of the feeling of losing myself in ideas and concepts while being completely alone for hours on end.
I hope they worked with someone else on this list
Even the working mastery of Wally becomes complicated when you don't have a Wally-compatible partner... Hey, let's slack in the CP Lounge... But only one of the pair can write messages.
Oh sanctissimi Wilhelmus, Theodorus, et Fredericus!
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I fell in love with programming because of the feeling of losing myself in ideas and concepts while being completely alone for hours on end.
I hope they worked with someone else on this list
I'd have to think that the biggest reason of all is that you can't fart when you need to.
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Hours yes; hyperproductive in the zone. That's no longer allowed with agile. Gotta "stand up" in time.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
agile
When done right, agile is the best process I have seen. The problem is most people don't know how to do it right.
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I'd have to think that the biggest reason of all is that you can't fart when you need to.
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The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.Greg Utas wrote:
I'd have to think that the biggest reason of all is that you can't fart when you need to.
Have your lesser half (:)) wear one of these: [Reusable Half Facepiece and Anti-Fog Safety Goggle Set Against Dust/Organic Vapors/Smells/Fumes/Sawdust/Asbestos Suitable for Painting, Staining, Car Spraying, Sanding, and Cutting](https://www.amazon.com/Respirator-Anti-Fog-Facepiece-Reusable-Asbestos/dp/B07Y2S71T1/ref=sr\_1\_1\_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=gas+masks+for+germ+protection&pd\_rd\_r=9a923b53-d342-4e81-a8e7-7f0e8162ef52&pd\_rd\_w=aCaS6&pd\_rd\_wg=tDMz4&pf\_rd\_p=0ec05f25-9534-48fe-9c3e-40b89957230e&pf\_rd\_r=M1TYJ2EABRTVJD9Y61SH&qid=1603455200&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzVVJQVlQ3WTk1UlJRJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwODc0NTAwMVVTU0w1UzNQNkJVUyZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNzUyMTk2MURYSFpRNDBHU1U3JndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==)
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.
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Greg Utas wrote:
I'd have to think that the biggest reason of all is that you can't fart when you need to.
Have your lesser half (:)) wear one of these: [Reusable Half Facepiece and Anti-Fog Safety Goggle Set Against Dust/Organic Vapors/Smells/Fumes/Sawdust/Asbestos Suitable for Painting, Staining, Car Spraying, Sanding, and Cutting](https://www.amazon.com/Respirator-Anti-Fog-Facepiece-Reusable-Asbestos/dp/B07Y2S71T1/ref=sr\_1\_1\_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=gas+masks+for+germ+protection&pd\_rd\_r=9a923b53-d342-4e81-a8e7-7f0e8162ef52&pd\_rd\_w=aCaS6&pd\_rd\_wg=tDMz4&pf\_rd\_p=0ec05f25-9534-48fe-9c3e-40b89957230e&pf\_rd\_r=M1TYJ2EABRTVJD9Y61SH&qid=1603455200&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzVVJQVlQ3WTk1UlJRJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwODc0NTAwMVVTU0w1UzNQNkJVUyZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNzUyMTk2MURYSFpRNDBHU1U3JndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==)
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.
Perfect, because it would also keep them quiet. :laugh:
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I fell in love with programming because of the feeling of losing myself in ideas and concepts while being completely alone for hours on end.
I hope they worked with someone else on this list
I'm an old :elephant:, so I can tell you this: I. Won't. Pair. Program. EVER. I'll do code reviews, I'll do stand-ups, I'll put Post-It™'s on a wallboard every day to show µ-progress if you want. I would mentor a less-experienced programmer. I will not have someone hanging over my shoulder, or even worse, me handing over theirs, as we hack away through a piece of code. My group of five developers has over 100 man-years of experience in our product domain. We work well together, and routinely debug into each other's code. We pair-debug on occasion. Pair programming would be completely disruptive for us. To say we each have our idiosyncrasies is to put it mildly. A couple of the guys use a dark theme on their desktop and their IDE. Some work with music, some not. I create structure (classes and members) top-down, and then fill in the code. Others fill in from the top down, others from the bottom up. We have a simple naming convention which each of us implements in our own way. Pair programming would completely break the eminently effective workflow we have.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
agile
When done right, agile is the best process I have seen. The problem is most people don't know how to do it right.
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Agile means delivering something the user asks for; I don't. I deliver a secure an complete product, wich the user doesn't ask for and costs more. The problem is with the idea; you don't build on the wishes of the day. You make an outline of what is needed, and build that. And yes, I still do SDM; it's the only thing that works.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Agile means delivering something the user asks for; I don't. I deliver a secure an complete product, wich the user doesn't ask for and costs more. The problem is with the idea; you don't build on the wishes of the day. You make an outline of what is needed, and build that. And yes, I still do SDM; it's the only thing that works.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
Agile means delivering something the user asks for;
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
The problem is with the idea
No, the problem is with your idea of what Agile is.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
Agile means delivering something the user asks for;
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
The problem is with the idea
No, the problem is with your idea of what Agile is.
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ZurdoDev wrote:
No, the problem is with your idea of what Agile is.
I do; the problem is that you trust FB and twatter more than scientists. And yes, I prefer shoveling shit over dealing with your kind.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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ZurdoDev wrote:
No, the problem is with your idea of what Agile is.
I do; the problem is that you trust FB and twatter more than scientists. And yes, I prefer shoveling shit over dealing with your kind.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
the problem is that you trust FB and twatter more than scientists.
Not sure what that has to do with Agile. But I suppose in your mind it does. Try as I might, I can't read minds.
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
I prefer shoveling sh*t over dealing with your kind.
What is my kind?
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
the problem is that you trust FB and twatter more than scientists.
Not sure what that has to do with Agile. But I suppose in your mind it does. Try as I might, I can't read minds.
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
I prefer shoveling sh*t over dealing with your kind.
What is my kind?
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ZurdoDev wrote:
Not sure what that has to do with Agile. But I suppose in your mind it does.
Not just my mind; if you disbelieve science then your word isn't valid here.
ZurdoDev wrote:
What is my kind?
A believer; doesn't matter is if you religious, you act like one.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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ZurdoDev wrote:
Not sure what that has to do with Agile. But I suppose in your mind it does.
Not just my mind; if you disbelieve science then your word isn't valid here.
ZurdoDev wrote:
What is my kind?
A believer; doesn't matter is if you religious, you act like one.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
if you disbelieve science then your word isn't valid here.
Still not sure what this has to do with Agile. Are you suggesting Agile is a scientific process? :confused: Also, you know science is not 100% correct, so anyone who "believes" science blindly is just as foolish as one who ignores science. But not sure why this is even a topic.
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
doesn't matter is if you religious, you act like one.
You're pretty much self-proclaiming to be a bigot now. Congrats. :thumbsup:
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
if you disbelieve science then your word isn't valid here.
Still not sure what this has to do with Agile. Are you suggesting Agile is a scientific process? :confused: Also, you know science is not 100% correct, so anyone who "believes" science blindly is just as foolish as one who ignores science. But not sure why this is even a topic.
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
doesn't matter is if you religious, you act like one.
You're pretty much self-proclaiming to be a bigot now. Congrats. :thumbsup:
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ZurdoDev wrote:
Still not sure what this has to do with Agile. Are you suggesting Agile is a scientific process? :confused:
Never said that.
ZurdoDev wrote:
Also, you know science is not 100% correct, so anyone who "believes" science blindly is just as foolish as one who ignores science
The scientific method is 100% correct, even if measurments aren't. Science does NOT require belief; it can be validated by everyone.
ZurdoDev wrote:
But not sure why this is even a topic.
It isn't a topic. This is just me pissing on you, publicly.
ZurdoDev wrote:
You're pretty much self-proclaiming to be a bigot now. Congrats. :thumbsup:
Look the word up; opposite to you, I do not "believe"; and we need not believe. Since science, we can verify and measure for ourselves. Science is not a belief; it is the end of belief and the beginning of knowledge :thumbsup: As for your complaint that I been targetting you; I was just answering your bullshit. No more. You can spout your drivel freely without me opposing you.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
