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Do you have a favorite programming book and if so, what is it?

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  • P PIEBALDconsult

    So, the problem is that it's missing two bridges?

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    I guess I'm getting old.

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    • H honey the codewitch

      Mine would be Accelerated C++ by Andrew Koenig and Barbara Moo. It's mercifully short, and it teaches C++ the Right Way(TM) - the way Bjarne intended it to be used, and how it works best. It's suitable for beginners to C++ and in fact I recommend it for teaching C++, and it's the only one I'll recommend for that.

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      Anything by Charles Petzold

      "I didn't mention the bats - he'd see them soon enough" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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      • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

        I'd have to say the GoF patterns book.

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        RDM Jr
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        For me, it's a toss up between Kernighan & Ritchie's The C Programming Language, and Aho, Kernighan and Weinberger's The AWK Programming Language. Other books I remember from college days include Fortran IV With Watfor and Watfiv, and a two book set of Shelley & Cashman on Cobol. Those are all still around, somewhere in the attic, along with a lot of seriously outdated hardware. I know there's a 300 baud modem with the acoustic couplers for a standard Bell desk phone's handset up there, and a couple of cases of 80-column cards.

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        • H honey the codewitch

          Mine would be Accelerated C++ by Andrew Koenig and Barbara Moo. It's mercifully short, and it teaches C++ the Right Way(TM) - the way Bjarne intended it to be used, and how it works best. It's suitable for beginners to C++ and in fact I recommend it for teaching C++, and it's the only one I'll recommend for that.

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          David ONeil
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          Super Accelerated C++, by David O'Neil :laugh: (It's not a book, just fun!)

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          • H honey the codewitch

            Mine would be Accelerated C++ by Andrew Koenig and Barbara Moo. It's mercifully short, and it teaches C++ the Right Way(TM) - the way Bjarne intended it to be used, and how it works best. It's suitable for beginners to C++ and in fact I recommend it for teaching C++, and it's the only one I'll recommend for that.

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            Daniel Pfeffer
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            When looking for basic algorithms, you can't do much better than Knuth. For specific programming languages, I prefer Plauger's The C Standard Library, Alexandrescu's Modern C++ Design, and anything by Steve McConnell or by Charles Petzold.

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            • R raddevus

              Petzold Programming Windows 3.1 will always have a special place for me. I remember actually understanding this Windows programming thing and the Windows message loop and thinking, "wow, someone actually explains how this stuff works". He explained stuff so well that it was like opening up a whole new world and programming was really exciting. Such a special book.

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              Forogar
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              I still have a copy of that. I hug it occasionally for inspiration!

              - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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              • T trønderen

                I'd like to make a crazy proposal: When Intel presented its iAPX 432 CPU, I got hold of its reference manual. It is certainly not a programming book, yet it is about what we think of as programming. It made me thoroughly rethink the distinction between hardware and software - as well as some important software concepts. E.g. in the 432, if one process sends one of its objects to another process (using the IPC instructions of the processor), the sending process looses that object. It may of course make a copy of the object before sending the original away (or keep the original, sending a copy), but the original and the copy are distinct objects. If you give one of them away, you give it away. That is how things work in real life, and in the 432, but not in commonly used software systems today. Even though the 432 was a major flop, its reference manual has significantly formed my ideas about software. And hardware.

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                honey the codewitch
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                Interesting!

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                • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

                  My copy is the original edition from the mid '70s. I noticed it had undergone revisions, but it sounds like it's still somewhat inaccessible.

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                  honey the codewitch
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                  Yeah, it's not for mortals. I ended up working with another book to figure out most of it. What's funny is there was only pseudocode in the book and no math symbology. But also that was one of its strengths. The book is Parsing Techniques: A Practical Guide[^]

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                  • F Forogar

                    I still have a copy of that. I hug it occasionally for inspiration!

                    - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                    raddevus
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                    Forogar wrote:

                    I still have a copy of that. I hug it occasionally for inspiration!

                    That is a very good idea. I'm going to have to start hugging mine too. :laugh: Mine sits on a bottom shelf of a bookshelf in my Home Office and each time I see it I get all goose-pimply and start thinking I know how to program again. :rolleyes:

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                    • H honey the codewitch

                      Yeah, it's not for mortals. I ended up working with another book to figure out most of it. What's funny is there was only pseudocode in the book and no math symbology. But also that was one of its strengths. The book is Parsing Techniques: A Practical Guide[^]

                      Real programmers use butterflies

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                      Too many CS types are wannabe mathematicians when they should be wannabe software "engineers". :laugh: It's basically the same in economics, though the "should be" side is harder to describe. But I digress.

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                      • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

                        It's good as a reference. Just read the general description of each pattern and look at the details when you think you need a pattern but the UML diagram doesn't give you a good enough idea of how to write the code. As much as anything, the fact that it gives a name to each pattern saves lots of time during design discussions, because everyone can quickly understand an approach being suggested. It's about much more than composition, though.

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                        PIEBALDconsult
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                        Greg Utas wrote:

                        gives a name to each pattern

                        Which is the only real value of the book. I bought a copy simply so I could be sure I knew what people were talking about and know which people had no idea what they were talking about.

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                        • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

                          Too many CS types are wannabe mathematicians when they should be wannabe software "engineers". :laugh: It's basically the same in economics, though the "should be" side is harder to describe. But I digress.

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                          honey the codewitch
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                          I'll run with your digression. =) As far as economics I've seen some interesting work in describing and modeling economies as Complex Adaptive Systems. There have been some books on it but also freely available works like this: http://williamwhite.ca/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/CAEGChapterpdf.pdf[^] I think it shows more promise than traditional economics (not that it's all garbage or anything)

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                            Greg Utas wrote:

                            gives a name to each pattern

                            Which is the only real value of the book. I bought a copy simply so I could be sure I knew what people were talking about and know which people had no idea what they were talking about.

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                            honey the codewitch
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                            PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                            Which is the only real value of the book.

                            I've gotten some mileage out of the visitor pattern but I didn't learn it from that book. In fairness though, they describe it for people that didn't already learn it, and it's one of the more useful patterns to know, IMO.

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                            • H honey the codewitch

                              Mine would be Accelerated C++ by Andrew Koenig and Barbara Moo. It's mercifully short, and it teaches C++ the Right Way(TM) - the way Bjarne intended it to be used, and how it works best. It's suitable for beginners to C++ and in fact I recommend it for teaching C++, and it's the only one I'll recommend for that.

                              Real programmers use butterflies

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                              I'm not one for books, but if I had to pick one (besides my own, of course) I'd go with Robert C. Martin's Clean Code. That book changed the way I write and think about code. The beauty is that it applies to all languages that were, are or will ever be used, although it uses Java for examples. Come to think of it, if a Java book is my favorite it has to be REALLY VERY GOOD! :~

                              Best, Sander Azure Serverless Succinctly Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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                                I'm not one for books, but if I had to pick one (besides my own, of course) I'd go with Robert C. Martin's Clean Code. That book changed the way I write and think about code. The beauty is that it applies to all languages that were, are or will ever be used, although it uses Java for examples. Come to think of it, if a Java book is my favorite it has to be REALLY VERY GOOD! :~

                                Best, Sander Azure Serverless Succinctly Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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                                honey the codewitch
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                                I like my code dirty like a martini. :laugh: kidding of course

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                                • H honey the codewitch

                                  I'll run with your digression. =) As far as economics I've seen some interesting work in describing and modeling economies as Complex Adaptive Systems. There have been some books on it but also freely available works like this: http://williamwhite.ca/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/CAEGChapterpdf.pdf[^] I think it shows more promise than traditional economics (not that it's all garbage or anything)

                                  Real programmers use butterflies

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                                  A remarkably sensible paper considering that he worked in central banking and is a Canadian! But I'd just get rid of central banks entirely, or at least restore them to their original purpose, which was simply to provide liquidity in exchange for good collateral when it had few bids during a market panic. All this "monetary policy" stuff, including fixing interest rates and quantitative easing, is destructive, not to mention immoral.

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                                  The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.

                                  <p><a href="https://github.com/GregUtas/robust-services-core/blob/master/README.md">Robust Services Core</a>
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                                  • H honey the codewitch

                                    Yeah, it's not for mortals. I ended up working with another book to figure out most of it. What's funny is there was only pseudocode in the book and no math symbology. But also that was one of its strengths. The book is Parsing Techniques: A Practical Guide[^]

                                    Real programmers use butterflies

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                                    Southmountain
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                                    I have this book too..

                                    diligent hands rule....

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                                    • H honey the codewitch

                                      I like my code dirty like a martini. :laugh: kidding of course

                                      Real programmers use butterflies

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                                      Sander Rossel
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                                      You say you're kidding, but you also use single-line if-statements. Those are mutually exclusive :D

                                      Best, Sander Azure Serverless Succinctly Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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                                        Mine would be Accelerated C++ by Andrew Koenig and Barbara Moo. It's mercifully short, and it teaches C++ the Right Way(TM) - the way Bjarne intended it to be used, and how it works best. It's suitable for beginners to C++ and in fact I recommend it for teaching C++, and it's the only one I'll recommend for that.

                                        Real programmers use butterflies

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                                        Jon McKee
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                                        I was going to say Clean Code by Robert C. Martin but Sander beat me to it, so I'm gonna go with [Specifying Systems by Leslie Lamport](https://lamport.azurewebsites.net/tla/book.html). Not only is it a really interesting book but it's also pretty good for brushing up on discrete mathematics.

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                                        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                          You say you're kidding, but you also use single-line if-statements. Those are mutually exclusive :D

                                          Best, Sander Azure Serverless Succinctly Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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                                          honey the codewitch
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                                          In all seriousness, I adopt a more relaxed style for my personal projects versus my professional projects. The thing is, after years of confining myself to the house style (whatever shop i'm at) working my own way is liberating. Maybe I'm a bit extreme about it. The other thing is, and maybe I shouldn't admit this here but I often am not thinking when I'm writing code. It just comes to me, and I let it. I've written some of my best code that way, so I don't fight it, but it's a bit like free association writing so it's going to reflect my underlying style preferences.

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