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    BernardIE5317
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    If no one minds too much I would like to get something off my chest and state my least favorite programming text i.e. Stroustrup's C++ Reference. Supposedly it was written in English but I couldn't tell. I wish I still had the copy to quote a particular paragraph I have in mind which I found particularly indecipherable but in general my complaints are he speaks at length about a particular topic but does not inform the reader what that topic is until late in the paragraph and does so in a vague abstract manner which leaves my head spinning as I am dumbfounded by both the vague manner and as yet undisclosed vague topic. It's only computer programming not the mysteries of the cosmos as revealed by advanced science and mathematics. It shouldn't be that hard to learn to print "Hello World" onto the screen. Thanks for tolerating my diatribe Best Wishes Cheerios

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      If no one minds too much I would like to get something off my chest and state my least favorite programming text i.e. Stroustrup's C++ Reference. Supposedly it was written in English but I couldn't tell. I wish I still had the copy to quote a particular paragraph I have in mind which I found particularly indecipherable but in general my complaints are he speaks at length about a particular topic but does not inform the reader what that topic is until late in the paragraph and does so in a vague abstract manner which leaves my head spinning as I am dumbfounded by both the vague manner and as yet undisclosed vague topic. It's only computer programming not the mysteries of the cosmos as revealed by advanced science and mathematics. It shouldn't be that hard to learn to print "Hello World" onto the screen. Thanks for tolerating my diatribe Best Wishes Cheerios

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      PaltryProgrammer wrote:

      Thanks for tolerating my diatribe

      No problem. (I "bleep"ed over the boring bits)

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        If no one minds too much I would like to get something off my chest and state my least favorite programming text i.e. Stroustrup's C++ Reference. Supposedly it was written in English but I couldn't tell. I wish I still had the copy to quote a particular paragraph I have in mind which I found particularly indecipherable but in general my complaints are he speaks at length about a particular topic but does not inform the reader what that topic is until late in the paragraph and does so in a vague abstract manner which leaves my head spinning as I am dumbfounded by both the vague manner and as yet undisclosed vague topic. It's only computer programming not the mysteries of the cosmos as revealed by advanced science and mathematics. It shouldn't be that hard to learn to print "Hello World" onto the screen. Thanks for tolerating my diatribe Best Wishes Cheerios

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        PaltryProgrammer wrote:

        speaks at length about a particular topic but does not inform the reader what that topic is until late in the paragraph and does so in a vague abstract manner

        Sounds like my wife wrote it. Be glad that he didn't adapt another of her techniques - changing the subject without letting me in on it until the story's half told (possible because of the first technique, above).

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          If no one minds too much I would like to get something off my chest and state my least favorite programming text i.e. Stroustrup's C++ Reference. Supposedly it was written in English but I couldn't tell. I wish I still had the copy to quote a particular paragraph I have in mind which I found particularly indecipherable but in general my complaints are he speaks at length about a particular topic but does not inform the reader what that topic is until late in the paragraph and does so in a vague abstract manner which leaves my head spinning as I am dumbfounded by both the vague manner and as yet undisclosed vague topic. It's only computer programming not the mysteries of the cosmos as revealed by advanced science and mathematics. It shouldn't be that hard to learn to print "Hello World" onto the screen. Thanks for tolerating my diatribe Best Wishes Cheerios

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          honey the codewitch
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          *hands you a modestly sized copy of Accelerated C++ that's written in plain English* :)

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            PaltryProgrammer wrote:

            speaks at length about a particular topic but does not inform the reader what that topic is until late in the paragraph and does so in a vague abstract manner

            Sounds like my wife wrote it. Be glad that he didn't adapt another of her techniques - changing the subject without letting me in on it until the story's half told (possible because of the first technique, above).

            Ravings en masse^

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            "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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            Jorgen Andersson
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            Wonder if that's universal? I guess me zoning out, when I haven't got a clue who or what she talks about at the moment, doesn't help either.

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              If no one minds too much I would like to get something off my chest and state my least favorite programming text i.e. Stroustrup's C++ Reference. Supposedly it was written in English but I couldn't tell. I wish I still had the copy to quote a particular paragraph I have in mind which I found particularly indecipherable but in general my complaints are he speaks at length about a particular topic but does not inform the reader what that topic is until late in the paragraph and does so in a vague abstract manner which leaves my head spinning as I am dumbfounded by both the vague manner and as yet undisclosed vague topic. It's only computer programming not the mysteries of the cosmos as revealed by advanced science and mathematics. It shouldn't be that hard to learn to print "Hello World" onto the screen. Thanks for tolerating my diatribe Best Wishes Cheerios

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              PaltryProgrammer wrote:

              I wish I still had the copy to quote a particular paragraph I have in mind which I found particularly indecipherable but in general my complaints are he speaks at length about a particular topic but does not inform the reader what that topic is until late in the paragraph and does so in a vague abstract manner which leaves my head spinning as I am dumbfounded by both the vague manner and as yet undisclosed vague topic.

              I'm pretty sure I have that book somewhere (or something from Stroustrup), but I don't recall him using run-on sentences with no punctuation.

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                PaltryProgrammer wrote:

                speaks at length about a particular topic but does not inform the reader what that topic is until late in the paragraph and does so in a vague abstract manner

                Sounds like my wife wrote it. Be glad that he didn't adapt another of her techniques - changing the subject without letting me in on it until the story's half told (possible because of the first technique, above).

                Ravings en masse^

                "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                An anonymous email with a link to this post has just been sent to your wife. :)

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                  Wonder if that's universal? I guess me zoning out, when I haven't got a clue who or what she talks about at the moment, doesn't help either.

                  Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello Never stop dreaming - Freddie Kruger

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                  Alas (?), I don't zone out. Maybe it's one of those things that enable a 45+ year marriage that keeps it going - I haven't stopped listening.
                          Some might consider that a masochistic streak.

                  Ravings en masse^

                  "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                  "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                    PaltryProgrammer wrote:

                    I wish I still had the copy to quote a particular paragraph I have in mind which I found particularly indecipherable but in general my complaints are he speaks at length about a particular topic but does not inform the reader what that topic is until late in the paragraph and does so in a vague abstract manner which leaves my head spinning as I am dumbfounded by both the vague manner and as yet undisclosed vague topic.

                    I'm pretty sure I have that book somewhere (or something from Stroustrup), but I don't recall him using run-on sentences with no punctuation.

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                    Vikram A Punathambekar
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                    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: That was exactly my thought too!

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                      PaltryProgrammer wrote:

                      speaks at length about a particular topic but does not inform the reader what that topic is until late in the paragraph and does so in a vague abstract manner

                      Sounds like my wife wrote it. Be glad that he didn't adapt another of her techniques - changing the subject without letting me in on it until the story's half told (possible because of the first technique, above).

                      Ravings en masse^

                      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                      Yes ... she starts in on "that thing" ... and you have to guess what that thing is.

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                        If no one minds too much I would like to get something off my chest and state my least favorite programming text i.e. Stroustrup's C++ Reference. Supposedly it was written in English but I couldn't tell. I wish I still had the copy to quote a particular paragraph I have in mind which I found particularly indecipherable but in general my complaints are he speaks at length about a particular topic but does not inform the reader what that topic is until late in the paragraph and does so in a vague abstract manner which leaves my head spinning as I am dumbfounded by both the vague manner and as yet undisclosed vague topic. It's only computer programming not the mysteries of the cosmos as revealed by advanced science and mathematics. It shouldn't be that hard to learn to print "Hello World" onto the screen. Thanks for tolerating my diatribe Best Wishes Cheerios

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                        PaltryProgrammer wrote:

                        my least favorite programming text i.e. Stroustrup's C++ Reference

                        Really? I loved that book! It was my reference for years.

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                          If no one minds too much I would like to get something off my chest and state my least favorite programming text i.e. Stroustrup's C++ Reference. Supposedly it was written in English but I couldn't tell. I wish I still had the copy to quote a particular paragraph I have in mind which I found particularly indecipherable but in general my complaints are he speaks at length about a particular topic but does not inform the reader what that topic is until late in the paragraph and does so in a vague abstract manner which leaves my head spinning as I am dumbfounded by both the vague manner and as yet undisclosed vague topic. It's only computer programming not the mysteries of the cosmos as revealed by advanced science and mathematics. It shouldn't be that hard to learn to print "Hello World" onto the screen. Thanks for tolerating my diatribe Best Wishes Cheerios

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                          The one that says: "And all the samples are copyright and you can't use them in your own program." (A couple of 2D and 3D WPF Graphics books by the same author)

                          It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food

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                            If no one minds too much I would like to get something off my chest and state my least favorite programming text i.e. Stroustrup's C++ Reference. Supposedly it was written in English but I couldn't tell. I wish I still had the copy to quote a particular paragraph I have in mind which I found particularly indecipherable but in general my complaints are he speaks at length about a particular topic but does not inform the reader what that topic is until late in the paragraph and does so in a vague abstract manner which leaves my head spinning as I am dumbfounded by both the vague manner and as yet undisclosed vague topic. It's only computer programming not the mysteries of the cosmos as revealed by advanced science and mathematics. It shouldn't be that hard to learn to print "Hello World" onto the screen. Thanks for tolerating my diatribe Best Wishes Cheerios

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                            Amarnath S
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                            My least favorite programming book is Learn C++ in X days, where even after 21 days, classes were very briefly told, and pointers were not mentioned. This was sometime in 1994 / 1995. Not sure what number X was.

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                              If no one minds too much I would like to get something off my chest and state my least favorite programming text i.e. Stroustrup's C++ Reference. Supposedly it was written in English but I couldn't tell. I wish I still had the copy to quote a particular paragraph I have in mind which I found particularly indecipherable but in general my complaints are he speaks at length about a particular topic but does not inform the reader what that topic is until late in the paragraph and does so in a vague abstract manner which leaves my head spinning as I am dumbfounded by both the vague manner and as yet undisclosed vague topic. It's only computer programming not the mysteries of the cosmos as revealed by advanced science and mathematics. It shouldn't be that hard to learn to print "Hello World" onto the screen. Thanks for tolerating my diatribe Best Wishes Cheerios

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                              the dragon book. it is a good book, but hard to finish all pages...

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                                If no one minds too much I would like to get something off my chest and state my least favorite programming text i.e. Stroustrup's C++ Reference. Supposedly it was written in English but I couldn't tell. I wish I still had the copy to quote a particular paragraph I have in mind which I found particularly indecipherable but in general my complaints are he speaks at length about a particular topic but does not inform the reader what that topic is until late in the paragraph and does so in a vague abstract manner which leaves my head spinning as I am dumbfounded by both the vague manner and as yet undisclosed vague topic. It's only computer programming not the mysteries of the cosmos as revealed by advanced science and mathematics. It shouldn't be that hard to learn to print "Hello World" onto the screen. Thanks for tolerating my diatribe Best Wishes Cheerios

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                                I never read any of his book but there are quite a handful on Amazon with relative good reviews for each.

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                                  If no one minds too much I would like to get something off my chest and state my least favorite programming text i.e. Stroustrup's C++ Reference. Supposedly it was written in English but I couldn't tell. I wish I still had the copy to quote a particular paragraph I have in mind which I found particularly indecipherable but in general my complaints are he speaks at length about a particular topic but does not inform the reader what that topic is until late in the paragraph and does so in a vague abstract manner which leaves my head spinning as I am dumbfounded by both the vague manner and as yet undisclosed vague topic. It's only computer programming not the mysteries of the cosmos as revealed by advanced science and mathematics. It shouldn't be that hard to learn to print "Hello World" onto the screen. Thanks for tolerating my diatribe Best Wishes Cheerios

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                                  I've never read any book on C++ that made a bit of sense, but the worst ever was the Microsoft MFC manual - all three volumes of it. :sigh:

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                                    If no one minds too much I would like to get something off my chest and state my least favorite programming text i.e. Stroustrup's C++ Reference. Supposedly it was written in English but I couldn't tell. I wish I still had the copy to quote a particular paragraph I have in mind which I found particularly indecipherable but in general my complaints are he speaks at length about a particular topic but does not inform the reader what that topic is until late in the paragraph and does so in a vague abstract manner which leaves my head spinning as I am dumbfounded by both the vague manner and as yet undisclosed vague topic. It's only computer programming not the mysteries of the cosmos as revealed by advanced science and mathematics. It shouldn't be that hard to learn to print "Hello World" onto the screen. Thanks for tolerating my diatribe Best Wishes Cheerios

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                                      If no one minds too much I would like to get something off my chest and state my least favorite programming text i.e. Stroustrup's C++ Reference. Supposedly it was written in English but I couldn't tell. I wish I still had the copy to quote a particular paragraph I have in mind which I found particularly indecipherable but in general my complaints are he speaks at length about a particular topic but does not inform the reader what that topic is until late in the paragraph and does so in a vague abstract manner which leaves my head spinning as I am dumbfounded by both the vague manner and as yet undisclosed vague topic. It's only computer programming not the mysteries of the cosmos as revealed by advanced science and mathematics. It shouldn't be that hard to learn to print "Hello World" onto the screen. Thanks for tolerating my diatribe Best Wishes Cheerios

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                                      In addition to Stroustrup's C++ reference I'd also go with K&R C Programming language as a 100% useless book.

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                                        If no one minds too much I would like to get something off my chest and state my least favorite programming text i.e. Stroustrup's C++ Reference. Supposedly it was written in English but I couldn't tell. I wish I still had the copy to quote a particular paragraph I have in mind which I found particularly indecipherable but in general my complaints are he speaks at length about a particular topic but does not inform the reader what that topic is until late in the paragraph and does so in a vague abstract manner which leaves my head spinning as I am dumbfounded by both the vague manner and as yet undisclosed vague topic. It's only computer programming not the mysteries of the cosmos as revealed by advanced science and mathematics. It shouldn't be that hard to learn to print "Hello World" onto the screen. Thanks for tolerating my diatribe Best Wishes Cheerios

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                                        David ONeil
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                                        Are you talking about Stroustrup's 'The C++ Programming Language'? If so, our opinions are vastly different. It was one of the most useful books I ever bought.

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                                          In addition to Stroustrup's C++ reference I'd also go with K&R C Programming language as a 100% useless book.

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                                          Why ?

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