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  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

    honey the codewitch wrote:

    I'm sure most of you get it or you wouldn't be developers.

    I've definitely worked with code from developers who did not enjoy learning. In fact, I've met the anti-learn. When I left for another company because I wanted to progress he literally said "that's one of those companies that expect you to learn." :wtf: His code was as awful as his toxic personality. If I never see him again it'll be too soon, but unfortunately I still see him from time to time :sigh: I like some good learning from time to time, but at some time I just have to be able to do my job with the knowledge I have and get it over with. When I learn new things it's usually because I think it can help me solve some programming challenge I'm facing. I rarely learn just for the sake of learning. Since I'm a good friend I want you to learn, so I've compiled one of the best learning resource for you to check out: hidden learning surprise inside!!![^] :D

    Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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    honey the codewitch
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    Sander Rossel wrote:

    I've definitely worked with code from developers who did not enjoy learning

    {
    Allow me to be the jerk who says I don't consider them to be developers - at least not competent ones. :~ I could just be being extreme and judgmental though. But I've never worked well with them.
    }

    Sander Rossel wrote:

    I rarely learn just for the sake of learning.

    {
    Maybe I'm just an oddball then. It wouldn't be the first time.
    }

    Sander Rossel wrote:

    Since I'm a good friend I want you to learn, so I've compiled one of the best learning resource for you to check out: hidden learning surprise inside!!![^] :-D

    {
    As you can see, I've taken it to { heart }
    At least you didn't Rickroll me. =D
    }

    Real programmers use butterflies

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      Wait till you're asked to build another one. It's never again like the first time; money or not. Once you figure it out, the little birdie inside says this should now be delegated and to find something new / different.

      It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food

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      honey the codewitch
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      The cool thing about devices though is interfacing with different hardware is at least for now enough to give me some of that sweet sweet beginners mind.

      Real programmers use butterflies

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      • S Slacker007

        I am speaking for myself here... when I was young and single, I had the "learning rush". Once I got older, got married, and had two demon spawn, my "learning rush" disappeared. Now, all that is left is trying to survive and keep what is left of my sanity. :)

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        honey the codewitch
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        I'm 42 *sideeyes Douglas Adams* and I still have the learning rush. No kids though.

        Real programmers use butterflies

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          I'm sure most of you get it or you wouldn't be developers. We're always accruing new knowledge not just to keep up but to get ahead. I don't know about you but I'm a sponge. I sustain myself on learning things. It's such a rush to challenge myself to do something new or something better. I went from not being able to wire up a 16-pin hitachi interface LCD to building IoT gadgets with them, all the way to doing it for money in under a month, drawing from a hobby I abandoned for programming back when I was a kid. Now I'm doing both. It's seriously challenging me. I haven't used my brain this much in years. It's one thing to learn more in a field you're already familiar with, like when I learned parsing theory. It's another to learn a different, even if related field. That's what I'm doing now. It's all very fun, but now I worry I'm going to get lost in it to the expense of everything else. Can it be an addiction? I wonder.

          Real programmers use butterflies

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          I was trained in the late 60-ies and early 70-ties, and then - of course - doing computers and computer science was an adventure. Developments were going fast, languages were being developed and explored. Compiler construction was a real challenge then. The last 20 years of my professional life I was in a more managerial role, buto boy, you can learn a lot then! about people, politics and organizations. After retirement I picked up programming again, and it is really different from the days of working on a PDP-9 or 11. But, as long as there is a clear view of what I want to make (I am afraid it is more the technical stuff) I really enjoy learning about Fourier, Laplace Javascript, PHP , C++ and .... So, yes I understand what you are saying, and I think it is a wonderful attitude

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          • H honey the codewitch

            I'm sure most of you get it or you wouldn't be developers. We're always accruing new knowledge not just to keep up but to get ahead. I don't know about you but I'm a sponge. I sustain myself on learning things. It's such a rush to challenge myself to do something new or something better. I went from not being able to wire up a 16-pin hitachi interface LCD to building IoT gadgets with them, all the way to doing it for money in under a month, drawing from a hobby I abandoned for programming back when I was a kid. Now I'm doing both. It's seriously challenging me. I haven't used my brain this much in years. It's one thing to learn more in a field you're already familiar with, like when I learned parsing theory. It's another to learn a different, even if related field. That's what I'm doing now. It's all very fun, but now I worry I'm going to get lost in it to the expense of everything else. Can it be an addiction? I wonder.

            Real programmers use butterflies

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            Amarnath S
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            Time to transition to the "teaching rush".

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            • A Amarnath S

              Time to transition to the "teaching rush".

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              honey the codewitch
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              I try. Look at my article count here. :laugh:

              Real programmers use butterflies

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              • H honey the codewitch

                I try. Look at my article count here. :laugh:

                Real programmers use butterflies

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                Amarnath S
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                Not just that, but also actual teaching with students around. Clearing their doubts, and resolving their issues.

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                • A Amarnath S

                  Not just that, but also actual teaching with students around. Clearing their doubts, and resolving their issues.

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                  honey the codewitch
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                  I'm not able to do that anymore. A few years ago I went over the high wall and since then people freak me out, especially lots of them in one room. :~

                  Real programmers use butterflies

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                    I'm not able to do that anymore. A few years ago I went over the high wall and since then people freak me out, especially lots of them in one room. :~

                    Real programmers use butterflies

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                    I am currently teaching middle school math to just one student, over Skype, and it is a whole new experience. Just keeping his attention for one full hour is an adventure in itself, but I learn from his mother that it is enriching him.

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                    • H honey the codewitch

                      I'm sure most of you get it or you wouldn't be developers. We're always accruing new knowledge not just to keep up but to get ahead. I don't know about you but I'm a sponge. I sustain myself on learning things. It's such a rush to challenge myself to do something new or something better. I went from not being able to wire up a 16-pin hitachi interface LCD to building IoT gadgets with them, all the way to doing it for money in under a month, drawing from a hobby I abandoned for programming back when I was a kid. Now I'm doing both. It's seriously challenging me. I haven't used my brain this much in years. It's one thing to learn more in a field you're already familiar with, like when I learned parsing theory. It's another to learn a different, even if related field. That's what I'm doing now. It's all very fun, but now I worry I'm going to get lost in it to the expense of everything else. Can it be an addiction? I wonder.

                      Real programmers use butterflies

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                      Not an addiction so much as a desire to know things. I have learned so much since I stopped working, and am always interested in new stuff. The only problem is that my brain is slower these days, and it takes longer for things to sink in, and it needs to be repeated so many times.

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                      • H honey the codewitch

                        I'm sure most of you get it or you wouldn't be developers. We're always accruing new knowledge not just to keep up but to get ahead. I don't know about you but I'm a sponge. I sustain myself on learning things. It's such a rush to challenge myself to do something new or something better. I went from not being able to wire up a 16-pin hitachi interface LCD to building IoT gadgets with them, all the way to doing it for money in under a month, drawing from a hobby I abandoned for programming back when I was a kid. Now I'm doing both. It's seriously challenging me. I haven't used my brain this much in years. It's one thing to learn more in a field you're already familiar with, like when I learned parsing theory. It's another to learn a different, even if related field. That's what I'm doing now. It's all very fun, but now I worry I'm going to get lost in it to the expense of everything else. Can it be an addiction? I wonder.

                        Real programmers use butterflies

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                        The older I get the more inquisitive I get, I'm constantly learning new things. Is it an addiction...yes. next thing you'll be trying to get your fridge to talk to your toaster. :)

                        I'm not sure how many cookies it makes to be happy, but so far it's not 27. JaxCoder.com

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                          I am currently teaching middle school math to just one student, over Skype, and it is a whole new experience. Just keeping his attention for one full hour is an adventure in itself, but I learn from his mother that it is enriching him.

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                          honey the codewitch
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                          Excellent! :)

                          Real programmers use butterflies

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                            Sander Rossel wrote:

                            I've definitely worked with code from developers who did not enjoy learning

                            {
                            Allow me to be the jerk who says I don't consider them to be developers - at least not competent ones. :~ I could just be being extreme and judgmental though. But I've never worked well with them.
                            }

                            Sander Rossel wrote:

                            I rarely learn just for the sake of learning.

                            {
                            Maybe I'm just an oddball then. It wouldn't be the first time.
                            }

                            Sander Rossel wrote:

                            Since I'm a good friend I want you to learn, so I've compiled one of the best learning resource for you to check out: hidden learning surprise inside!!![^] :-D

                            {
                            As you can see, I've taken it to { heart }
                            At least you didn't Rickroll me. =D
                            }

                            Real programmers use butterflies

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                            {
                            This is more than I ever hoped for! // Tears of joy roll down my cheeks.
                            }

                            Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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                              The older I get the more inquisitive I get, I'm constantly learning new things. Is it an addiction...yes. next thing you'll be trying to get your fridge to talk to your toaster. :)

                              I'm not sure how many cookies it makes to be happy, but so far it's not 27. JaxCoder.com

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                              honey the codewitch
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                              It's true though! :laugh:

                              Real programmers use butterflies

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                              • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                {
                                This is more than I ever hoped for! // Tears of joy roll down my cheeks.
                                }

                                Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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                                honey the codewitch
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                                I did read that article though, and the main point is the same one I think you made, that what if:

                                if(foo)
                                bar();
                                baz(); // always executed

                                To which I respond that this has never happened to me that I can recall, in part because VS autoformats code and I hit Ctrl-A,K,D regularly. So it's a solution in search of a problem, at least with my personal code. When I am working on a team I code differently, but it also takes me longer and irritates me.

                                Real programmers use butterflies

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                                  I am currently teaching middle school math to just one student, over Skype, and it is a whole new experience. Just keeping his attention for one full hour is an adventure in itself, but I learn from his mother that it is enriching him.

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                                  About 10 years ago I was doing one day a week freelance fixing up a local school's admin system. The IT teacher introduced me to one young 13-yo lad who was keen to learn. I spent my lunch breaks tutoring him at a level way above the rest of his IT class; he was a quick learner and enthusiastic. A couple of weeks ago I checked him on LinkedIn. On leaving school he setup a couple of startups, one working with management of cloud-based security, before getting a developer role with a company building a P2P networking tool for youngsters suffering mental health issues; then a senior engineer role with a predictive marketing company, also involved in the hiring process for his employer. Sometimes the "rush" can be delayed by quite a few years! :) (Not that I can take all the credit for his success - he was the sort of lad who would make it, whatever his circumstances)

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                                  • H honey the codewitch

                                    I'm sure most of you get it or you wouldn't be developers. We're always accruing new knowledge not just to keep up but to get ahead. I don't know about you but I'm a sponge. I sustain myself on learning things. It's such a rush to challenge myself to do something new or something better. I went from not being able to wire up a 16-pin hitachi interface LCD to building IoT gadgets with them, all the way to doing it for money in under a month, drawing from a hobby I abandoned for programming back when I was a kid. Now I'm doing both. It's seriously challenging me. I haven't used my brain this much in years. It's one thing to learn more in a field you're already familiar with, like when I learned parsing theory. It's another to learn a different, even if related field. That's what I'm doing now. It's all very fun, but now I worry I'm going to get lost in it to the expense of everything else. Can it be an addiction? I wonder.

                                    Real programmers use butterflies

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                                    Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                                    I do feel wasted the day I do not read/watch something new... And it not all for programming at all...

                                    "The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012

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                                    • H honey the codewitch

                                      I'm 42 *sideeyes Douglas Adams* and I still have the learning rush. No kids though.

                                      Real programmers use butterflies

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                                      I'm 67 and still have the learning itch

                                      "I didn't mention the bats - he'd see them soon enough" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                                      • H honey the codewitch

                                        I'm 42 *sideeyes Douglas Adams* and I still have the learning rush. No kids though.

                                        Real programmers use butterflies

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                                        I'm 56, and still have the learning itch. The problem is that there are many more claims on my time than there were when I was young, single, and childless, so the pile is growing at the bottom faster than I can clear it at the top. :sigh:

                                        Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                                          I'm 56, and still have the learning itch. The problem is that there are many more claims on my time than there were when I was young, single, and childless, so the pile is growing at the bottom faster than I can clear it at the top. :sigh:

                                          Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                                          honey the codewitch
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                                          I'm sorry. I am older (than I was at least) married and childless so I have less claims on my time. I suppose I'm blessed in that, but I can also only deal with so much so it's for the best. :sigh:

                                          Real programmers use butterflies

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