Who Else Hates This?
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I don't, for several reasons: 1) I don't use ceramic coffee mugs: it's a double walled vacuum mug in stainless steel. Keeps coffee warm and drinkable for ages. It's probably not marked as "microwave safe" for good reasons, but it's also full of coffee so I'm not turning it upside down to find out! 2) I don't heat water in a microwave. Or anything else, pretty much (I do soften butter in it). It's main function in our home is as a "Cat Safe": he can't get at food inside so it can cool without being eaten ...
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I have a stainless steel mug my daughter bought me during her days as a Starbucks Barista. When I used to go into work it was the last mug I needed for, as you well know, they don't break easily. Not particularly vacuum insulated. I don't heat water in the microwave very often (easier via several other options). I do reheat in it. Just like leftovers - although coffee gets good care to retain the flavor. Cast Safe. That can be thought of in two way. 1 - you can limit yourself by protecting things in the microwave from cat intrusions. Only what you can fit. 2 - You can put the cat in it, instead, and everything elsewhere is safe. Actually . . . . . maybe you should rethink your approach . . . .
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"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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I have a stainless steel mug my daughter bought me during her days as a Starbucks Barista. When I used to go into work it was the last mug I needed for, as you well know, they don't break easily. Not particularly vacuum insulated. I don't heat water in the microwave very often (easier via several other options). I do reheat in it. Just like leftovers - although coffee gets good care to retain the flavor. Cast Safe. That can be thought of in two way. 1 - you can limit yourself by protecting things in the microwave from cat intrusions. Only what you can fit. 2 - You can put the cat in it, instead, and everything elsewhere is safe. Actually . . . . . maybe you should rethink your approach . . . .
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
It's bad enough getting him into a cat basket for a visit to the vet, I'd lose fingers trying to cram him in the Cat Safe!
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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I don't, for several reasons: 1) I don't use ceramic coffee mugs: it's a double walled vacuum mug in stainless steel. Keeps coffee warm and drinkable for ages. It's probably not marked as "microwave safe" for good reasons, but it's also full of coffee so I'm not turning it upside down to find out! 2) I don't heat water in a microwave. Or anything else, pretty much (I do soften butter in it). It's main function in our home is as a "Cat Safe": he can't get at food inside so it can cool without being eaten ...
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
OriginalGriff wrote:
t's main function in our home is as a "Cat Safe": he can't get at food inside so it can cool without being eaten ...
Similar thing in our house, except ours is Greyhound safe. The female's not too bad, but the male can pick food off the counter without coming off his front feet.
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"Microwave Safe" - so it says on the package. Possibly even indelibly stamped onto the bottom of the cup before firing so it's forever in the cup's lifetime. And the damn handle gets so hot you cannot remove the cup from the microwave oven without an oven mitt. Now this is done, as so many of you have experienced, with the vessel filled with water ( something just about all water - it is a mug, after all). Water really sucks up microwaves - that's how the whole concept was designed. The cup shouldn't - certainly not when so much water is present. I just got reminded with a 45 sec reheat from room-temperature. This was not thermal conduction from the water to the container. There's just something wrong with this claim "microwave safe". Plain glass is pretty good on this account but ceramics, which are the material-of-choice for properly sized coffee mugs - are hit-and-miss. They should make it required to label items that themselves get hot as "microwave tolerant", putting the safety of the user ahead of that of the cup. Yes. A new regulation. But sometimes something has to be done.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
Might I suggest you either have a crack in the mug, or the glaze has, well, de-glazed and the mug become porous? (from the outside). I've a couple of mugs that when new were fine in the microwave, with age (and a visible hairline crack in one) now get hotter than a very hot thing if inadvertently used in the microwave.
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"Microwave Safe" - so it says on the package. Possibly even indelibly stamped onto the bottom of the cup before firing so it's forever in the cup's lifetime. And the damn handle gets so hot you cannot remove the cup from the microwave oven without an oven mitt. Now this is done, as so many of you have experienced, with the vessel filled with water ( something just about all water - it is a mug, after all). Water really sucks up microwaves - that's how the whole concept was designed. The cup shouldn't - certainly not when so much water is present. I just got reminded with a 45 sec reheat from room-temperature. This was not thermal conduction from the water to the container. There's just something wrong with this claim "microwave safe". Plain glass is pretty good on this account but ceramics, which are the material-of-choice for properly sized coffee mugs - are hit-and-miss. They should make it required to label items that themselves get hot as "microwave tolerant", putting the safety of the user ahead of that of the cup. Yes. A new regulation. But sometimes something has to be done.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
Whether a ceramic piece warms up in the microwave, is very dependent on the glaze. It is very common for manufacturers to produce items in stoneware, even in porcelain. Neither stoneware nor porcelain will conduct electricity, so microwaves pass through the body without loss of energy. The problem arises when they subsequently spray an earthenware glaze (which fires at a lower temperature and is therefore cheaper) on the body for the glaze firing. Earthenware glazes commonly use a lead-silica compound for a flux. Don't worry about lead poisoning: The lead used is chemically bound to silica and is largely safe as it is insoluble. (I don't know if it is illegal). However, such a glaze is somewhat conductive and will absorb some of the energy from radiation in a microwave and heat up. So if your mug heats up in the MW, suspect that it may have a lead based glaze. As I said: lead based glazes are safe, but if you leave a slightly acidic liquid in the item for a long time (like wine), a tiny amount of lead may leach into the liquid. Bottoms up! :)
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I don't, for several reasons: 1) I don't use ceramic coffee mugs: it's a double walled vacuum mug in stainless steel. Keeps coffee warm and drinkable for ages. It's probably not marked as "microwave safe" for good reasons, but it's also full of coffee so I'm not turning it upside down to find out! 2) I don't heat water in a microwave. Or anything else, pretty much (I do soften butter in it). It's main function in our home is as a "Cat Safe": he can't get at food inside so it can cool without being eaten ...
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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OriginalGriff wrote:
It's main function in our home is as a "Cat Safe": he can't get at food inside so it can cool without being eaten ...
Put the cat *inside* the microwave, then you can leave food *anywhere* in the kitchen.
If I put the cat in the microwave, Herself will ensure I leave the house. :laugh:
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If I put the cat in the microwave, Herself will ensure I leave the house. :laugh:
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Oh, c'mon...think of it as a little house for the cat. On a rotating platform, so he doesn't get bored of always getting the same view. And all the heating he can handle.
I'll let you present that to Herself. Wear a cup! :laugh:
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"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt -
I'll let you present that to Herself. Wear a cup! :laugh:
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I'd be more inclined for the boxing gloves. Your foota toucha my balls, back of your heada toucha the floor. Hers wouldn't be an act of self defence. Why bother starting now?
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Might I suggest you either have a crack in the mug, or the glaze has, well, de-glazed and the mug become porous? (from the outside). I've a couple of mugs that when new were fine in the microwave, with age (and a visible hairline crack in one) now get hotter than a very hot thing if inadvertently used in the microwave.
It's more by mugs withing a certain set (and other dishes) - some heat up - some do not. The crack idea is not without merit but suggest that if the cup were used following a washing, especially a prolonged one as in a dishwasher, that it would cleave at the crack from stress. Only hypothetical.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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If I put the cat in the microwave, Herself will ensure I leave the house. :laugh:
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
It's days later and then it came to me that you were a bit vague on this point:
OriginalGriff wrote:
If I put the cat in the microwave,
Please clarify if she will be angry if you put the cat in the microwave or only angry if you put the cat in the microwave and actually run it for a while.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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It's days later and then it came to me that you were a bit vague on this point:
OriginalGriff wrote:
If I put the cat in the microwave,
Please clarify if she will be angry if you put the cat in the microwave or only angry if you put the cat in the microwave and actually run it for a while.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
The physical proximity will suffice. No electrical connection need be established.
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Hmmm. With comments like your previous one in this thread and this one, thanks, but I'll not be troubling you for advice. One bad joke(yours) turned into another(mine) before someone (you, of *all* people) suggested I cease to contribute. At least you ended with joke. :thumbsup:
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"Microwave Safe" - so it says on the package. Possibly even indelibly stamped onto the bottom of the cup before firing so it's forever in the cup's lifetime. And the damn handle gets so hot you cannot remove the cup from the microwave oven without an oven mitt. Now this is done, as so many of you have experienced, with the vessel filled with water ( something just about all water - it is a mug, after all). Water really sucks up microwaves - that's how the whole concept was designed. The cup shouldn't - certainly not when so much water is present. I just got reminded with a 45 sec reheat from room-temperature. This was not thermal conduction from the water to the container. There's just something wrong with this claim "microwave safe". Plain glass is pretty good on this account but ceramics, which are the material-of-choice for properly sized coffee mugs - are hit-and-miss. They should make it required to label items that themselves get hot as "microwave tolerant", putting the safety of the user ahead of that of the cup. Yes. A new regulation. But sometimes something has to be done.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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Metal content of the ceramic or glaze?
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Metallic content in the ceramic glaze can be a fact it's more content of the ceramic, itself. Most "metallic content" is inert to the microwaves (transparent). After all, the ceramics, themselves, are primarily aluminum (tri)oxide and silicon dioxide. In an oxidized form, most metallic elements lose their metallic properties (rust is typically diamagnetic vs. iron, which is ferromagnetic). Not quite a guarantee. Magnetite is an iron oxide that is ferromagnetic - and is the original way that humans discovered magnetism. The primary absorbers of the microwave radiation in your oven are -OH bonds (a rotational resonance). The resonance means they absorb the radiation and try to rotate - which, banging around against other molecules, ends up as transnational and finally thermal energy. Besides water, other (particularly organic) molecules contain these bonds and bonds with (very) near resonant frequencies. Fats and oils (cooking, not motor), for example. Now in the raw, many metal oxides are, in fact, hydrated to varying degrees (as are a lot of compounds: e.g., copper sulfate is white but the most common form of it, the hydrate, is quite bright blue). During the scintering process, the water is driven off. Also, hydroxy bonds are dehydrated as the matrix of molten oxides is formed. Ceramic are, at least internally, anhydrous and amorphous metal oxide hunks. Transparent to microwaves. Metals, themselves, can act as an antenna, absorbing the microwaves and once absorbed, get really hot really fast. If they have a point, which is a place that would cause a local higher potential: sparks ! Smooth rounded things can act as shields (like aluminum foil to prevent local overheating - but I've never risked it). Thing metallic decorations put on a one-time beautiful display as they burn up (and become transparent to microwaves as oxides). Now I cannot dismiss 100% that a metallic coating is at fault but realizing it is competing with a massive (by comparison) sink of water (used to spread the delight of coffee into a greater portion of the universe) lead me to think it's intrinsic to the selection of materials in the starting clay (whether deliberate or as impurities).
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
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Hmmm. With comments like your previous one in this thread and this one, thanks, but I'll not be troubling you for advice. One bad joke(yours) turned into another(mine) before someone (you, of *all* people) suggested I cease to contribute. At least you ended with joke. :thumbsup:
I think it's fairly clear, even without the joke icon, what my intent was when I responded to Griff. The problem with your joke, is that there's plenty of people who would actually mean the sort of thing you wrote, and I took it as being kinda crass and offensive. And I don't recall you posting too much, so I'm not familiar with which type you may be. So there, you can use that as the benefit of doubt.
