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  • R raddevus

    There is no good way to store good SQL queries for future use. Just, no good way. :rolleyes:

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    not sure if this is even relevant or helpful: Transact-SQL Code Snippets - SQL Server Management Studio (SSMS) | Microsoft Docs[^] I save my sql to an organized sql folder locally, of which you could add to source control or cloud storage if you wanted to. it's not the greatest method, but I have been doing it this way for years and will probably not change. :-D

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      OriginalGriff wrote:

      I have sections in my text file ... because I'm lazy ...

      :thumbsup: That made me laugh too. I would like: 1) way to pick tables and fields (returned in query) 2) have notes that remind me what the query does 3) have a good way to find them again -- this wouldn't be easy to do I end up saving large SQL text files all over the place and then later searching through them and it takes just about as long to find them as it does to just think it all out again. I'm just wishing over here. :-D It would be very difficult to really create a good organizer. I guess I'm even lazier than I thought. (which I didn't think was possible)

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      Rick York
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      Visual has/had a code snippets kind of thing. Maybe that could be adapted.

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      • W W Balboos GHB

        The solution to your problem with storage, retrieval and categorizations is obvious: Put them into a database.

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        raddevus
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        W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote:

        Put them into a database.

        well i have them in excel so ive already done that.😄

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          not sure if this is even relevant or helpful: Transact-SQL Code Snippets - SQL Server Management Studio (SSMS) | Microsoft Docs[^] I save my sql to an organized sql folder locally, of which you could add to source control or cloud storage if you wanted to. it's not the greatest method, but I have been doing it this way for years and will probably not change. :-D

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          "This is the way." ~Mandalorian probably best way for me too

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          • R Rick York

            Visual has/had a code snippets kind of thing. Maybe that could be adapted.

            "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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            OriginalGriff
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            You can also set it up in the VS toolbox as boilerplate code to drag and drop into an app - I use it for boilerplate SQL access to be "tuned" for a specific purpose.

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            • R raddevus

              There's no great way to : 1) store and categorize good sql 2) also would like a way to insert table names and field names so you could select some things and then just fire off the SQL. 3) need a place for notes about what the sql actually does. I tend to forget sql very fast -- sql is boring and declarative and I always have to look at it too much to remember what it does. Sometimes I just want to find an old query that does that thing you know? :)

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              We have a database for saving queries like that as stored procs. Everybody has their own schema, and can see each other's procs. Most of them are specific to the table/view being queried.

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              • D Dan Neely

                My current project has a folder in google drive (coworkers choice, I'd've added a folder in our git repo) to store all the supposedly 1 off queries (if they said they wanted it repeatedly we'd have a report/import page) we've ran for the customer so they're available for the next time they ask.

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                raddevus
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                Yeah, I did something similar by creating a document on Google Drive. Just wish there was a better way to manage them with comments etc. By "better way", I mean i could just think of a query I've done in the past and it would appear on my screen. :laugh:

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                • R raddevus

                  "This is the way." ~Mandalorian probably best way for me too

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                  Mycroft Holmes
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                  MSSQL snippets works perfectly for me except you need to rabbit through the category folders to find the exact one you need :-O. Tis a bitch when you can't remember the category/folder it lives in.

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                  • J Jorgen Andersson
                    1. I simply use the file system. Every file gets a [declarative name].sql, so you can doubleclick and it will start SSMS or whatever program is associated. The master folder is also added to TortoiseHg for versioning 2) Then you need to use dynamic SQL, which is a whole can of worms by itself, and also a possible source of so called SQL-injection 3) I use a fancy invention called Comments for that. Just add them to forementioned Files In Oracle you can also add comments directly to the tables and columns themselves, but in SQL Server you only have Extended Properties, which aren't nearly the same thing

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                    raddevus
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                    Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                    1. Then you need to use dynamic SQL, which is a whole can of worms by itself, and also a possible source of so called SQL-injection

                    I'm just talking about a local resource that I would use to call up previous queries that I've had to do to examine or update data manually. All of our work is done view SPs -- there are no ad-hoc SQL that are allowed to run against our DBs.

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                    • R raddevus

                      There is no good way to store good SQL queries for future use. Just, no good way. :rolleyes:

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                      There is no good way to store good SQL queries for future use.

                      What's wrong with stored procedures?

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                      • R raddevus

                        There is no good way to store good SQL queries for future use. Just, no good way. :rolleyes:

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                        How about [Solution Explorer - SQL Server Management Studio (SSMS) | Microsoft Docs](https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sql/ssms/solution/solution-explorer?view=sql-server-ver15) ?

                        Check out my blog at http://msdev.pro/

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                        • R raddevus

                          There's no great way to : 1) store and categorize good sql 2) also would like a way to insert table names and field names so you could select some things and then just fire off the SQL. 3) need a place for notes about what the sql actually does. I tend to forget sql very fast -- sql is boring and declarative and I always have to look at it too much to remember what it does. Sometimes I just want to find an old query that does that thing you know? :)

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                          Richard Deeming
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                          Sounds like templates: Template Explorer - SQL Server Management Studio (SSMS) | Microsoft Docs[^]


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                          • R raddevus

                            Well, I have something like that too, but it's difficult to find the right one amidst all of the other chaff. I wish there was a way to categorize them or something like that. And don't offer me the idea of making sections in my text file, cuz i'm lazy (of course -- I'm a dev). :-D

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                            Then amend your post and write: "there is no good way for a lazy dev to keep track of good SQL queries"....

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                            • R raddevus

                              There is no good way to store good SQL queries for future use. Just, no good way. :rolleyes:

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                              Peter Adam
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                              SQL is too broad term. IBExpert[^] for Firebird has it and much more[^] .

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                              • R raddevus

                                There is no good way to store good SQL queries for future use. Just, no good way. :rolleyes:

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                                A lot of tools come to mind on this topic. Notepad, or Notepad++: I recommend using "AGENT RANSACK" a very fast multi-threaded Search engine. (You can start the search in your ROOT file for the SQL files) (Side note: This is my number one favorite tool) Organize the SQL files, by INDEXING Them (aka: "Tags") INDEX: (Example) #DATE Ex: 01/01/2021 #PROJECT Ex: (NAME) #TYPE Ex: (SELECT INSERT UPDATE DELETE) #NOTATION Ex: That query for the thing I had to do at 1AM ...more as needed ---------------------------------------------------------------- Open "Agent ransack" and search on terms in the sql. This could be all put in a database, but I think that may be a bit too much. You want something simple, and you want to find it fast. You already have a body of SQL that is not indexed. Start indexing all NEW SQL FILES, and as you revisit the old ones, (that are not indexed), Index them as you go along. Keep it all in one file, or multiple files, doesnt matter much with Agent Ransack. So what you wind up with is your very own Google Search for your sql. Keep It Simple, keep it moving.

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                                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                  I keep a text file of 'em: "GoodSQLQueries.txt" it's called. It's easy to copy'n'paste 'em when I need 'em. Or just use an SP. What's the problem?

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                                  BryanFazekas
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                                  I use OneNote -- I have a notebook for each database, with sections labeled by tables and/or area. Each query or code segment has a comment briefing describing what it does. This makes hunting for things much easier.

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                                  • R raddevus

                                    There is no good way to store good SQL queries for future use. Just, no good way. :rolleyes:

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                                    I would suggest a couple of things: - a stored procedure that is just a collection of these wonderful SQL statements that is commented well and set up to NOT be runnable (comment out the whole thing between /* and */, probably) - set up a comment area above each piece of code with keywords or details about what the code does and what it would be useful for - using a search (CTRL-F) on the stored procedure you called GreatCodeToMaybeReuseSomeday (or whatever) to find the SQL of interest. - Copy and paste the code you found. Probably the closest to "think it and it will appear"

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                                    • R raddevus

                                      There is no good way to store good SQL queries for future use. Just, no good way. :rolleyes:

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                                      User 10331519
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                                      Just a thought: Use a library like JsonQL to convert SQL to a JSON representation and store them in MongoDB with descriptive metadata. Search on the content and/or metadata.

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                                        There is no good way to store good SQL queries for future use.

                                        What's wrong with stored procedures?

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                                        raddevus
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                                        Member 13301679 wrote:

                                        What's wrong with stored procedures?

                                        I mean like a development studio type of thing where you can select a particular SQL statement that you want to run manually when you're examining data and designing queries. We use SPs for all interactions with DB but I'm talking more about a code reuse type of thing. I guess I could create a library of SPs and then run those when I need to, but I'd still need a way to manage them with names and stuff so I could remember what they do. I guess it is really because I'm in the midst of designing queries for a large system and I only have to do this every 2 or 3 years so I have a long time away from it.

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                                          How about [Solution Explorer - SQL Server Management Studio (SSMS) | Microsoft Docs](https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sql/ssms/solution/solution-explorer?view=sql-server-ver15) ?

                                          Check out my blog at http://msdev.pro/

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                                          raddevus
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                                          That does look good but...

                                          Link provided said

                                          Important This feature will be removed in a future version of Microsoft SQL Server. Avoid using this feature in new development work, and plan to modify applications that currently use this feature.

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