Man, the Arduino forums though (forums.arduino.cc not here)
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I mean, I don't know what he can imagine. I find myself to be a competent but flawed developer. I guess I could have put on an ego for that response though. :laugh:
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honey the codewitch wrote:
I mean, I don't know what he can imagine.
Looking at what you were told... I suppose not much. Because one doesn't need to be Einstein to see the difference between being able to program and asking a question in an online forum about something you are not that sure and want help or confirmation.
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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So I posted a question about getting garbage on my serial port on my Arduino after uploading my JSON library to it. I mentioned that it worked on my 64-bit desktop but wasn't working on my 8-bit mega. And then a moderator basically told me that's not true, and if I was able to write code that would do that I wouldn't be on the forum asking for help in the first place. When I confronted him about accusing me of lying he denied it. These forums are rude. This isn't the first time I've seen a sour exchange on there, but it's the first time one was directed at me. My 2nd question. If you're volunteering your time to be a moderator and you don't like doing it, you should stop. If you're volunteering your time to be a moderator because you like berating people who ask questions of the forum there's something deeper going on.
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honey the codewitch wrote:
...getting garbage on my serial port on my Arduino...a moderator basically told me that's not true...
How are you verifying the noise? What exactly is he claiming is not true?
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Ha! I just had something like that happen -- on a different site. A moderator complained that I was causing them to actually have to work! Oh my! Not that! :wtf:
I have been told that too... once in a course to get a new tech for a project (I took it as a compliment) and once by a co-worker :doh: :doh: :doh: X| X| X| and no... I am not kidding.
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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I have a ton of little IoT SoCs but none with a 16-bit CPU. I wonder if such an animal exists? It would be fun to compile this for a little 65c816 though (the 16-bit CPU in the Apple IIgs and the Super Nintendo)
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Yeah I know... they win by experience.
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
They've certainly had a lot more experience being dumb :elephant:ers than we have! :laugh:
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honey the codewitch wrote:
...getting garbage on my serial port on my Arduino...a moderator basically told me that's not true...
How are you verifying the noise? What exactly is he claiming is not true?
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He was claiming that my code could not run on 8-bit and 64-bit both. He said my claim "doesn't make sense" I verified the noise through the built in Arduino IDE serial monitor. I solved it by removing conditional preprocessor defines i made from the ino file which is mysterious that it was causing the problem, but then the Arduino IDE is a godawful piece of trash and it mangles your C++ code "for you" behind your back so who knows?
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honey the codewitch wrote:
I mean, I don't know what he can imagine.
Looking at what you were told... I suppose not much. Because one doesn't need to be Einstein to see the difference between being able to program and asking a question in an online forum about something you are not that sure and want help or confirmation.
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
I agree.
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Ha! I just had something like that happen -- on a different site. A moderator complained that I was causing them to actually have to work! Oh my! Not that! :wtf:
hahaha what do they think moderators are supposed to do? :laugh:
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hahaha what do they think moderators are supposed to do? :laugh:
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Dunno, sit back and bask in our adoration I think.
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So I posted a question about getting garbage on my serial port on my Arduino after uploading my JSON library to it. I mentioned that it worked on my 64-bit desktop but wasn't working on my 8-bit mega. And then a moderator basically told me that's not true, and if I was able to write code that would do that I wouldn't be on the forum asking for help in the first place. When I confronted him about accusing me of lying he denied it. These forums are rude. This isn't the first time I've seen a sour exchange on there, but it's the first time one was directed at me. My 2nd question. If you're volunteering your time to be a moderator and you don't like doing it, you should stop. If you're volunteering your time to be a moderator because you like berating people who ask questions of the forum there's something deeper going on.
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You might try avrfreaks but I find they're pretty arrogant at times also.
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So I posted a question about getting garbage on my serial port on my Arduino after uploading my JSON library to it. I mentioned that it worked on my 64-bit desktop but wasn't working on my 8-bit mega. And then a moderator basically told me that's not true, and if I was able to write code that would do that I wouldn't be on the forum asking for help in the first place. When I confronted him about accusing me of lying he denied it. These forums are rude. This isn't the first time I've seen a sour exchange on there, but it's the first time one was directed at me. My 2nd question. If you're volunteering your time to be a moderator and you don't like doing it, you should stop. If you're volunteering your time to be a moderator because you like berating people who ask questions of the forum there's something deeper going on.
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I used to be a moderator and administrator for an active site with over 100K members and it was a real PITA. I was constantly inundated with requests from people to be made moderators and eventually I came to the same conclusion Robert Heinlein came to about politicians : anyone who wants to be one (moderator/politician) should not be allowed to be. That's every bit as true today as it was in his day, if not more so.
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So I posted a question about getting garbage on my serial port on my Arduino after uploading my JSON library to it. I mentioned that it worked on my 64-bit desktop but wasn't working on my 8-bit mega. And then a moderator basically told me that's not true, and if I was able to write code that would do that I wouldn't be on the forum asking for help in the first place. When I confronted him about accusing me of lying he denied it. These forums are rude. This isn't the first time I've seen a sour exchange on there, but it's the first time one was directed at me. My 2nd question. If you're volunteering your time to be a moderator and you don't like doing it, you should stop. If you're volunteering your time to be a moderator because you like berating people who ask questions of the forum there's something deeper going on.
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I would get thrown out, and / or swore at, by the guy in the corner office when I would pose the hard questions. When I suggested using a smaller font instead of redesigning a report due to a new column, he lost it. He later admitted he didn't realize you could change font sizes on "non-impact" printers. Or, asking too many questions means "you're not getting it". So I stopped asking.
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What's funny, is I've actually gotten really good results from SO. I've only ever had one question downvoted, and about 75% of the responses were helpful and courteous. I understand they have a bad rep, and it's probably earned, but I guess I've been fortunate.
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honey the codewitch wrote:
I've actually gotten really good results from SO
Have you ever been on electronics.stackexchange.com? That one is uber rude. I have posted to 15 or 20 different SOs but the electronics one is filled with Geniuses who can only tell you how stupid your question is. One time I posted a question about why it was that electrolytic type caps seem to have a high voltage ability even though they are small (in capacitance). I received no answer but many attacks and they finally completely deleted my question so that I couldn't even find it again. Sheesh. My point here is that Hardware Geniuses are much more mean-spirited than us Software Geniuses. We are a softer gentler kind, I suppose. :rolleyes: If you are a h/w genius no need to be upset with this, just be kind and prove me wrong.
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honey the codewitch wrote:
I've actually gotten really good results from SO
Have you ever been on electronics.stackexchange.com? That one is uber rude. I have posted to 15 or 20 different SOs but the electronics one is filled with Geniuses who can only tell you how stupid your question is. One time I posted a question about why it was that electrolytic type caps seem to have a high voltage ability even though they are small (in capacitance). I received no answer but many attacks and they finally completely deleted my question so that I couldn't even find it again. Sheesh. My point here is that Hardware Geniuses are much more mean-spirited than us Software Geniuses. We are a softer gentler kind, I suppose. :rolleyes: If you are a h/w genius no need to be upset with this, just be kind and prove me wrong.
Heh, i don't doubt it. I'm starting to get good with the hardware, but I'll play nice.
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ah, because of the 24 I assumed maybe a 16 bit but with a 24-bit address bus? I'd rather do pure 16 if that's the case. 24 bit buses are just weird. :laugh:
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He was claiming that my code could not run on 8-bit and 64-bit both. He said my claim "doesn't make sense" I verified the noise through the built in Arduino IDE serial monitor. I solved it by removing conditional preprocessor defines i made from the ino file which is mysterious that it was causing the problem, but then the Arduino IDE is a godawful piece of trash and it mangles your C++ code "for you" behind your back so who knows?
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honey the codewitch wrote:
the Arduino IDE is a godawful piece of trash and it mangles your C++ code "for you" behind your back so who knows?
Have you tried PlatformIO[^]? It allows you to use VScode to write code for Arduino and other embedded platforms.
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honey the codewitch wrote:
the Arduino IDE is a godawful piece of trash and it mangles your C++ code "for you" behind your back so who knows?
Have you tried PlatformIO[^]? It allows you to use VScode to write code for Arduino and other embedded platforms.
Yeah, I'm in the middle of switching to it entirely but I have a client that needs to be able to upload my code and I'm not sure I want to take on helping get them set up, so I still have to rely on Arduino IDE since PlatformIO requires source changes to function. I greatly prefer real C++ over those INO files.
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