Are you really, really, really sure you want to install this update?
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Chris Maunder wrote:
to solve this issue
WIndows 7 ?
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote:
WIndows 7 ?
As much as I'd prefer to stick with 7, have you tried to do a clean install these days, and then bring it up to date? It's a crapshoot. It may work, it may abort and roll back...but either way you're in for hours. Seriously, I've installed from the same ISO, for multiple VMs, on the same host (so the hardware, even though it's virtualized, is absolutely identical in every way), and one might succeed while another may fail installing updates. It makes absolutely no sense.
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It seems macOS and even iOS updates are just as big. (and I'm sitting at 48% again...)
cheers Chris Maunder
Is there a log for this update that you can look at? Perhaps there is an issue causing the hang up that would be mentioned in the log. I use to have to look at install logs for errors back in the olden days.
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Chris Maunder wrote:
parallels and VMWare on macOS
I keep hearing that from Apple users. Does Apple even believe that VMs are useful, and when will they start looking into making sure they perform well under their OS? I've been using VMs on Windows for well over a decade, and given the resources, I can't say performance is an issue - certainly not to the extent where I get "shivers of fear". I don't even think twice about putting together yet another VM to run on my Windows box. Running VMs efficiently requires lots of hardware, and as we know Apple's sells at a premium. If their machines are so starved for resources that VMs can't run efficiently, there's their opportunity make even more money. What's Apple's holdup?
Evidently their path forward for Windows users is virtualisation, and I'm hoping that with Windows on Arm, and the Apple M1 chip, virtualisation on macOS on Arm will be way, way faster than previous. I'd switch to it in a second if it actually worked. Bootcamp on a mac is a waste of potential
cheers Chris Maunder
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Evidently their path forward for Windows users is virtualisation, and I'm hoping that with Windows on Arm, and the Apple M1 chip, virtualisation on macOS on Arm will be way, way faster than previous. I'd switch to it in a second if it actually worked. Bootcamp on a mac is a waste of potential
cheers Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote:
to solve this issue
WIndows 7 ?
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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Windows 7 was absolutely horrible when it came to updates. I had more problems with Windows 7 updates than I've ever had with Windows 10.
Windows 7 Updates: Optional, and if you wanted them, it was WHEN you wanted them Window 10 Updates: You bought the machine; you paid for the software - but Micro$loth owns it. Basically, you're just considered a donor. (You did read the OP, and how it happens in the middle of things, at time?) I've posted this remark many times before: My upgrade from Windows 7 is Linux.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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I tried installing Windows 20H2 yesterday and it stuck at 48% for 3hrs before I hit the restart button. That thing they tell you never, ever, EVER do except every online forum says you need to do given you really have no choice. (which really bugs me. If it's stuck at X% for more than 5 mins, surely it could popup a message letting us know what it's waiting for. Rebuilding an index? Waiting on a device? Waiting on network? At least you'd be thinking "OK, that makes sense") So I decided to let it run overnight. I went to updates, clicked through the buttons to get it to download and install and it was on it's way. I figured 8hrs would be enough. Except this morning I wake to a "Click here to start the install". After all the clicks, after all the time downloading and preparing, the installer felt the need to ask, just one more time, if I really truly wanted to install it. Presumably about 15 mins after I went to bed. How is it on one hand they restart my machine while I'm using it to install a minor update, but when it comes to an hours long update they suddenly get all coy, even after I've told them to install the damn thing. Need coffee. And a good book, since I won't be using my main machine today it seems.
cheers Chris Maunder
Chris, If you have VS Professional MSDN you can put in a ticket. I had a problem where 2019 wouldn't install, kept erroring out on the same errors & repaired same & rerun & get same errors. Got some local help & we still weren't able to get it to install. Finally in desperation, put in a trouble call to MS through my MSDN subscription. Took the fellow about a week, but finally got the 2019 update installed. You can also put in the ticket w/o the subscription; costs about $400. Either way I was very pleased and the money was well worth it.
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I tried installing Windows 20H2 yesterday and it stuck at 48% for 3hrs before I hit the restart button. That thing they tell you never, ever, EVER do except every online forum says you need to do given you really have no choice. (which really bugs me. If it's stuck at X% for more than 5 mins, surely it could popup a message letting us know what it's waiting for. Rebuilding an index? Waiting on a device? Waiting on network? At least you'd be thinking "OK, that makes sense") So I decided to let it run overnight. I went to updates, clicked through the buttons to get it to download and install and it was on it's way. I figured 8hrs would be enough. Except this morning I wake to a "Click here to start the install". After all the clicks, after all the time downloading and preparing, the installer felt the need to ask, just one more time, if I really truly wanted to install it. Presumably about 15 mins after I went to bed. How is it on one hand they restart my machine while I'm using it to install a minor update, but when it comes to an hours long update they suddenly get all coy, even after I've told them to install the damn thing. Need coffee. And a good book, since I won't be using my main machine today it seems.
cheers Chris Maunder
A pop-up or any other kind of feedback, other than those stupid animations running in a different thread that don't really tell you anything and keep running even if the thread doing the actual work has "expired", would be nice. But we live in a world of ignorance and obscurity where the user can't know what the update is actually doing because the user must be treated as an ignorant and telling what the installer is doing would make rival companies know how the program works! Or so I was told... by an employer. I had that install/update problem happen to me in... 1) Win98 and, after too many days trying to install (so many that it is embarrassing to say the exact number), it ended up being a conspiracy between the installer and the HDD. The installer toke so long to start that the HDD would go to sleep and the installer didn't wake it. I only found out because I decided to get the manufacturers diagnostic utilities for every device on the PC and tested. After disabling power management on the HDD using the utility it installed with no problem. 2) WinXP had several issues but I remember one of them being a forgotten entry on the registry from a program (can't remember which) and the lack of a big enough swap. 3) Win7 was the infamous bogus update installer that would not correctly connect to MS update servers, and a joystick. Yes, having a joystick connected was, apparently, Win7 Achilles heel, at least on my system. When not in a game that used the joystick, like a flight simulator, I had to physically disconnect the joystick or win7 would start detecting random input from it, the system would become slow and, eventually, freeze. Not even ctrl+alt+del would save it. 4) Win10... Actually never had a problem with it since I could never install it. The installer says that my super expensive (at the time I bought it) AMD Phenom II x6 1055T CPU, 32GB RAM, 16TB HDD "is not supported because your CPU does not support NX", which it does, according to their separate MS compatibility utility. So, I upgraded to Ubuntu :) . So, my advice would be to start by disabling all power savings, disconnect all non-essential devices, scan your registry for problems, check that you have enough free disk space with a big enough swap, close all programs except the installer/updater and don't go away until you see that installation bar moving with a clearly readable "Installing". Maybe then, who knows.
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It seems macOS and even iOS updates are just as big. (and I'm sitting at 48% again...)
cheers Chris Maunder
MacOS updates are indeed very big now, due to the return to dual-CPU binaries. MacOS 11 is now 12+ GB download. However, unlike Windows, any time you download a fresh new MacOS install, it will be the latest version with the latest updates. So at least the "download 3 more huge installs to catch up" is mitigated for a newly installed OS image.
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MacOS updates are indeed very big now, due to the return to dual-CPU binaries. MacOS 11 is now 12+ GB download. However, unlike Windows, any time you download a fresh new MacOS install, it will be the latest version with the latest updates. So at least the "download 3 more huge installs to catch up" is mitigated for a newly installed OS image.
Updated (finally) to Big Sur today. Half an hour to download, about 40 mins to install. Done. Everything worked. On my 5th attempt at installing Windows 20H2. Failed again so I'm ripping it out and starting from scratch bare metal. How is this happening in 2021??
cheers Chris Maunder
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I tried installing Windows 20H2 yesterday and it stuck at 48% for 3hrs before I hit the restart button. That thing they tell you never, ever, EVER do except every online forum says you need to do given you really have no choice. (which really bugs me. If it's stuck at X% for more than 5 mins, surely it could popup a message letting us know what it's waiting for. Rebuilding an index? Waiting on a device? Waiting on network? At least you'd be thinking "OK, that makes sense") So I decided to let it run overnight. I went to updates, clicked through the buttons to get it to download and install and it was on it's way. I figured 8hrs would be enough. Except this morning I wake to a "Click here to start the install". After all the clicks, after all the time downloading and preparing, the installer felt the need to ask, just one more time, if I really truly wanted to install it. Presumably about 15 mins after I went to bed. How is it on one hand they restart my machine while I'm using it to install a minor update, but when it comes to an hours long update they suddenly get all coy, even after I've told them to install the damn thing. Need coffee. And a good book, since I won't be using my main machine today it seems.
cheers Chris Maunder
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I tried installing Windows 20H2 yesterday and it stuck at 48% for 3hrs before I hit the restart button. That thing they tell you never, ever, EVER do except every online forum says you need to do given you really have no choice. (which really bugs me. If it's stuck at X% for more than 5 mins, surely it could popup a message letting us know what it's waiting for. Rebuilding an index? Waiting on a device? Waiting on network? At least you'd be thinking "OK, that makes sense") So I decided to let it run overnight. I went to updates, clicked through the buttons to get it to download and install and it was on it's way. I figured 8hrs would be enough. Except this morning I wake to a "Click here to start the install". After all the clicks, after all the time downloading and preparing, the installer felt the need to ask, just one more time, if I really truly wanted to install it. Presumably about 15 mins after I went to bed. How is it on one hand they restart my machine while I'm using it to install a minor update, but when it comes to an hours long update they suddenly get all coy, even after I've told them to install the damn thing. Need coffee. And a good book, since I won't be using my main machine today it seems.
cheers Chris Maunder
I got so annoyed with Windows 10 updates that I totally disabled the updater on my PC. Unfortunately, I can't remember how I did it and I couldn't switch it back on if I wanted to (standard fixes don't work). I rely entirely on anti-malware now. Then again, I ran XP for years after it expired with anti-malware and I never had any problems. MS needs a better model.