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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    Awww! No fair - all I get are "My name is Janice from Talktalk" in an Indian accent ... :sigh:

    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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    5teveH
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    Does Janice want you to "press 1", too? :) BTW, this was, a well spoken, English guy. So, at least they are making an effort!

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      Just had a call, (recorded message), from "The National Crime Agency". Apparently there's been "suspicious activity on my National Insurance Number", which means it's going to be suspended, immediately. :wtf: I was asked to "press 1 to speak to a Crime Agency Officer". I've decided not to bother and see how it goes! :sigh:

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      Nelek
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      And I guess... pressing one then you call back and it is a very expensive call that gives them money? I ask genuinely because this is something I didn't know about yet.

      M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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        And I guess... pressing one then you call back and it is a very expensive call that gives them money? I ask genuinely because this is something I didn't know about yet.

        M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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        Lost User
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        Nelek wrote:

        this is something I didn't know about yet.

        Seriously? These sort of calls have been going on for years. There was a regular one a few years ago which claimed they were from Microsoft support and, "we have seen a problem with your computer on the internet". I kept a couple of them talking for a while until I got bored and told them to get an honest job.

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          And I guess... pressing one then you call back and it is a very expensive call that gives them money? I ask genuinely because this is something I didn't know about yet.

          M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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          5teveH
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          I, (like everyone), get plenty of scam calls, but I think this is a new variant! I'm always a bit reluctant to follow the instructions, (actually, I'm very bad at following ANY instructions!), because I am never sure if there's some potential hack on my mobile that they can execute. Don't know if that's possible?

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          • F Forogar

            I get them from the "National Police Squad" and the "FBI Department of Crime".

            - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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            dandy72
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            � Forogar � wrote:

            "FBI Department of Crime".

            To me this begs the question, what other departments does the FBI have...?

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              I, (like everyone), get plenty of scam calls, but I think this is a new variant! I'm always a bit reluctant to follow the instructions, (actually, I'm very bad at following ANY instructions!), because I am never sure if there's some potential hack on my mobile that they can execute. Don't know if that's possible?

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              Daniel Pfeffer
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              5teveH wrote:

              I am never sure if there's some potential hack on my mobile that they can execute. Don't know if that's possible?

              Well, the GSM standard has codes for call forwarding etc. that can be entered at the keyboard of the phone app. They all begin with '*#' and end with '#'. This does not mean that there aren't other codes that have other prefixes/suffixes. (I've discovered that my current phone doesn't accept the GSM codes in the phone app. It does, however, provide other methods to perform the same actions.)

              Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                Nelek wrote:

                this is something I didn't know about yet.

                Seriously? These sort of calls have been going on for years. There was a regular one a few years ago which claimed they were from Microsoft support and, "we have seen a problem with your computer on the internet". I kept a couple of them talking for a while until I got bored and told them to get an honest job.

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                dandy72
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                Richard MacCutchan wrote:

                claimed they were from Microsoft support and, "we have seen a problem with your computer on the internet".

                As a Microsoft contractor, I just tell these guys Microsoft has an army of lawyers just salivating at the thought of going after fraudsters like them, and they're just a phonecall away, should I decide to bring this to their attention. They typically don't stay too long on the call after this.

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                  Richard MacCutchan wrote:

                  claimed they were from Microsoft support and, "we have seen a problem with your computer on the internet".

                  As a Microsoft contractor, I just tell these guys Microsoft has an army of lawyers just salivating at the thought of going after fraudsters like them, and they're just a phonecall away, should I decide to bring this to their attention. They typically don't stay too long on the call after this.

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                  Lost User
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                  That won't work as there is not much that lawyers can do against criminals. And these people all operate out of unknown locations in India.

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                    Just had a call, (recorded message), from "The National Crime Agency". Apparently there's been "suspicious activity on my National Insurance Number", which means it's going to be suspended, immediately. :wtf: I was asked to "press 1 to speak to a Crime Agency Officer". I've decided not to bother and see how it goes! :sigh:

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                    obermd
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                    Better than your car warranty expiring...

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                      That won't work as there is not much that lawyers can do against criminals. And these people all operate out of unknown locations in India.

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                      DerekT P
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                      Not always so unknown... see the work of Jim Browning[^] on YouTube; he specialises in tracking down scammers, and delights in simply addressing them by (their real) name, or in one lovely case, when granting remote access to his (sacrificial) computer, having a desktop background that happened to be a Streetview image of the scammer's home. He's very thorough, and very calm with them. A positive joy to behold.

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                      • F Forogar

                        I get them from the "National Police Squad" and the "FBI Department of Crime".

                        - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                        Richard Deeming
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                        � Forogar � wrote:

                        National Police Squad

                        A perfect opportunity to trot out a few choice quotes[^]? :-D


                        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

                        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                          Just had a call, (recorded message), from "The National Crime Agency". Apparently there's been "suspicious activity on my National Insurance Number", which means it's going to be suspended, immediately. :wtf: I was asked to "press 1 to speak to a Crime Agency Officer". I've decided not to bother and see how it goes! :sigh:

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                          kmoorevs
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                          The last time the IRS robocalled me with this scam, I took the opportunity to mess with Officer O'Reilly begging him to please send officers to my residence immediately as I had a nice surprise for them. Of course nobody showed up for the cake.

                          "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse "Hope is contagious"

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                            Nelek wrote:

                            this is something I didn't know about yet.

                            Seriously? These sort of calls have been going on for years. There was a regular one a few years ago which claimed they were from Microsoft support and, "we have seen a problem with your computer on the internet". I kept a couple of them talking for a while until I got bored and told them to get an honest job.

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                            Nelek
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                            Richard MacCutchan wrote:

                            Seriously?

                            Yeah... My relative got called by an indian scam center and got the PC erased (luckily for him only erased because I could recover most of the content, an encryption would have been way worse) I have received scam post and scam emails. But never a case like this.

                            M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                              That won't work as there is not much that lawyers can do against criminals. And these people all operate out of unknown locations in India.

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                              dandy72
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                              There have been published stories from Microsoft successfully going after and shutting down these scammers. Doesn't matter much to me how likely they are to actually go after them - just mentioning that the department is only a phonecall away is usually enough to get them to hang up.

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                                Just had a call, (recorded message), from "The National Crime Agency". Apparently there's been "suspicious activity on my National Insurance Number", which means it's going to be suspended, immediately. :wtf: I was asked to "press 1 to speak to a Crime Agency Officer". I've decided not to bother and see how it goes! :sigh:

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                                BStorrar
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                                Same here. I did press one, but they hung up. I had a call last week from "Peter at BT Openreach" telling me my router had been reporting errors. I asked him if I could take him through security, and what was my name. He hung up pretty sharp.

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                                  And I guess... pressing one then you call back and it is a very expensive call that gives them money? I ask genuinely because this is something I didn't know about yet.

                                  M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                  W Balboos GHB
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                                  Pressing '1' does two things. First, it often passes you through to the live agent (robo-callers are paid even less so they don't waste money until the think they've caught a live one). Second, and the much worse part:   you have confirmed to them an active and viable phone number to call back with their other warnings (and sell, probably more lucrative). It's like (foolishly) clicking "remove me from mailing list" on SPAM.

                                  Ravings en masse^

                                  "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                  "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                    � Forogar � wrote:

                                    "FBI Department of Crime".

                                    To me this begs the question, what other departments does the FBI have...?

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                                    Myron Dombrowski
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                                    Department of anti-crime seems an obvious one.

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                                      Pressing '1' does two things. First, it often passes you through to the live agent (robo-callers are paid even less so they don't waste money until the think they've caught a live one). Second, and the much worse part:   you have confirmed to them an active and viable phone number to call back with their other warnings (and sell, probably more lucrative). It's like (foolishly) clicking "remove me from mailing list" on SPAM.

                                      Ravings en masse^

                                      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                      Nelek
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                                      Makes sense. I was looking for an obscure technical reason, but as usually... Occam's razor provides the best explanation.

                                      M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                      • M Myron Dombrowski

                                        Department of anti-crime seems an obvious one.

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                                        dandy72
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                                        If they investigated each other, would they cancel each other out...?

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                                          Just had a call, (recorded message), from "The National Crime Agency". Apparently there's been "suspicious activity on my National Insurance Number", which means it's going to be suspended, immediately. :wtf: I was asked to "press 1 to speak to a Crime Agency Officer". I've decided not to bother and see how it goes! :sigh:

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                                          I don't remember details of the following news report but it involved a scam phone call where the homeowner got fed up and answered the message. When the scammer started talking to him the homeowner unloaded on him, called him filthy names and then hung up. Shortly thereafter, his home was surrounded by police and he was handcuffed. It seems the scammer phoned the police using the homeowners number on call display and told the police " I just shot and killed my wife".

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