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  • J Jorgen Andersson

    PIEBALDconsult wrote:

    It concluded that the reason many people consider Europe and Asia to be different continents is due to cultural differences.

    It's much older than that, Both "Asia" and "Europa" is old Greek and what the Greeks referred to as Asia is todays Anatolia. Afrika is what the Romans called the land where the Carthagenes lived, which is todays Tunisia. The meaning of the words have obviously changed since then. The whole concept of continents is much newer than the names for them. Well, at least the ones mentioned above.

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    Yup, the ancients couldn't study the planet from space and didn't know about tectonic plates.

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      You forgot to mention that in case somebody does not aggree with you that he/she is wrong ;P

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      W Balboos GHB
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      I don't usually waste typing on that which is intuitively obvious. You, for example, knew without my telling you . 🎓

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      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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      • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

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        tauroids

        I guess you've got bull on your mind. :laugh:

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        tauroids

        No, no. Those are the little bulgie things on my scanner cable. :)

        If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.

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        • P PIEBALDconsult

          "America" exists wherever there is a McDonald's or a Starbucks. :-D

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          And I thought it is enough to have a crazy hairstyle that looks like a toupee :laugh:

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          • P PIEBALDconsult

            Yup, the ancients couldn't study the planet from space and didn't know about tectonic plates.

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            The theory of tectonic plates wasn't accepted until the 1960s. And even though he couldn't look at the Earth from space, Eratosthenes accurately calculated its circumference.

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            • M MarkTJohnson

              So Antartica is really just a strip of land going all about the outside edge to keep all the water in?

              I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.

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              That's what they tell me. :rolleyes: :-D

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                "Flying" across Europe and into Asia, via the live view camera on the ISS, the obvious hoax is all too evident. The separation between between the continent of Asia and the alleged continent of Europe is the Ural's. I mean really - North America has the Rocky Mountain range and it's not considered two continents. Other continent have their ranges - and as respective, if not more so, than the Ural. The basic reason that is probably the only "justification" is that the early map-makers (per current usages) were Europeans and thus, in their usual arrogance, needed to give themselves a special spot. It's just a crock. From now on, I'll refer to far-western Asia as just that. Join me in righting this wrong!

                Ravings en masse^

                "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote:

                far-western Asia

                You mean far Eastern Europe?

                If you can't laugh at yourself - ask me and I will do it for you.

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                • W W Balboos GHB

                  "Flying" across Europe and into Asia, via the live view camera on the ISS, the obvious hoax is all too evident. The separation between between the continent of Asia and the alleged continent of Europe is the Ural's. I mean really - North America has the Rocky Mountain range and it's not considered two continents. Other continent have their ranges - and as respective, if not more so, than the Ural. The basic reason that is probably the only "justification" is that the early map-makers (per current usages) were Europeans and thus, in their usual arrogance, needed to give themselves a special spot. It's just a crock. From now on, I'll refer to far-western Asia as just that. Join me in righting this wrong!

                  Ravings en masse^

                  "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                  "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                  Forogar
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                  Obviously, Europe and Asia are a single continent, Eurasia. That makes 7 continents: Africa, N. America, S. America, Antarctica, Australia, Eurasia and, the most important of all, Great Britain. Also, obviously, until the Suez Canal was built, Africa and Eurasia were just one continent. Similarly, until the Panama Canal was built there was just one American continent. There was originally only six continents: Great Britain, Antarctica, Australia, New Zealand, America and The Rest. Whether Britain and Ireland count as two separate continents is still disputed (by the Irish, mostly).

                  - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                  • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

                    The theory of tectonic plates wasn't accepted until the 1960s. And even though he couldn't look at the Earth from space, Eratosthenes accurately calculated its circumference.

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                    Only by mistake:

                    Quote:

                    It is remarkable that such accuracy was obtained in view of the fact that most of the "known" facts and his observations were incorrect: (1) although it is true that the sun at noon is directly overhead at the Tropic of Cancer on the day of the summer solstice, it was erroneously concluded that Syene lay on the line. Actually, Syene is 37 miles to the north; (2) the true distance between Alexandria and Syene is 453 miles and not 500; (3) Syene lies 3° 30' east of the meridian of Alexandria; (4) the difference of latitude between Alexandria and Syene is 7° 5' rather than 7° 12' as Eratosthenes had concluded.

                    From "Geodesy for the Layman"[^] pag. 6. Some pople have genius even when they make mistakes.

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                    • W W Balboos GHB

                      "Flying" across Europe and into Asia, via the live view camera on the ISS, the obvious hoax is all too evident. The separation between between the continent of Asia and the alleged continent of Europe is the Ural's. I mean really - North America has the Rocky Mountain range and it's not considered two continents. Other continent have their ranges - and as respective, if not more so, than the Ural. The basic reason that is probably the only "justification" is that the early map-makers (per current usages) were Europeans and thus, in their usual arrogance, needed to give themselves a special spot. It's just a crock. From now on, I'll refer to far-western Asia as just that. Join me in righting this wrong!

                      Ravings en masse^

                      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                      I'd always assumed that the definition of a continent was based on geology, rather than geography. The "current" idea of where the Asia/Europe border exists seems very fluid; countries that in my youth were firmly considered to be in Asia are apparently now "European", including even Russia. When the Eurovision Song Contest accepted Israel as a contestant I was vaguely uncomfortable with it; when Australia was welcomed in, I realised the thing was a con. (Europe, not the ESC). My assumption was that the Urals formed (as many mountain ranges do) a border between land masses / tectonic plates. That seemed to make sense, although didn't explain why the concept of Asia and Europe being separate continents dated back hundreds of years. Yet they're not, despite the Urals appearing perhaps to be a result of tectonic collision. So I have to agree that the distinction is purely for cultural / religious / political purposes. Further if continents were really to be based on tectonics, then the Caribbean would be a continent, as would the Philippines and, perhaps surprisingly, the Falkland islands. And the Pacific itself would be a continent. On the other hand, I can't agree to the concept of "far-western Asia". Given that the world is centred (obviously) around London, Asia only extends a few hundred miles into the Western hemisphere but 8000-odd miles to the Eastern. At -1º longitude I obviously live in western Asia, but I'm not sure I could call it far western :-D The other "proof" that Europe isn't really a continent is that, unlike the true continents, it's name does not start and end with an "A". Definitive proof, eh? Yet another reason for the EU to call it quits, though... :doh:

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                      • W W Balboos GHB

                        We're not speaking topologically - we're speaking geographically. Else your body and your wedding ring are indistinguishable as tauroids. So - I pointed you in a direction to observe - a bit of a Patagonian "Behold!". Alas, it's ever true that you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink it. So - with that I leave you to feel as correct as you wish to feel

                        Ravings en masse^

                        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                        W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote:

                        your body and your wedding ring are indistinguishable as tauroids.

                        "tauroids:" a misspelling of donut-shaped mathematical objects, an annual meteor shower, or, ?

                        «One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali

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                        • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

                          The theory of tectonic plates wasn't accepted until the 1960s. And even though he couldn't look at the Earth from space, Eratosthenes accurately calculated its circumference.

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                          Greg Utas wrote:

                          The theory of tectonic plates wasn't accepted until the 1960s.

                          That is a deceptive generality based on the most narrow possible definition of "accepted."

                          «One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali

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                            Greg Utas wrote:

                            The theory of tectonic plates wasn't accepted until the 1960s.

                            That is a deceptive generality based on the most narrow possible definition of "accepted."

                            «One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali

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                            Since I don't think politics could play a role, I will cite this[^]. The theory had been around for quite some time, certainly if you include its precursor of continental drift, but a theory usually doesn't gain acceptance until backed by some evidence.

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                            • W W Balboos GHB

                              "Flying" across Europe and into Asia, via the live view camera on the ISS, the obvious hoax is all too evident. The separation between between the continent of Asia and the alleged continent of Europe is the Ural's. I mean really - North America has the Rocky Mountain range and it's not considered two continents. Other continent have their ranges - and as respective, if not more so, than the Ural. The basic reason that is probably the only "justification" is that the early map-makers (per current usages) were Europeans and thus, in their usual arrogance, needed to give themselves a special spot. It's just a crock. From now on, I'll refer to far-western Asia as just that. Join me in righting this wrong!

                              Ravings en masse^

                              "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                              "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                              W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote:

                              The basic reason that is probably the only "justification" is that the early map-makers (per current usages) were Europeans and thus, in their usual arrogance, needed to give themselves a special spot.

                              Ehr.. We do have one. Running economics. There's no US without Europe, and that's being kind.

                              Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                              • W W Balboos GHB

                                "Flying" across Europe and into Asia, via the live view camera on the ISS, the obvious hoax is all too evident. The separation between between the continent of Asia and the alleged continent of Europe is the Ural's. I mean really - North America has the Rocky Mountain range and it's not considered two continents. Other continent have their ranges - and as respective, if not more so, than the Ural. The basic reason that is probably the only "justification" is that the early map-makers (per current usages) were Europeans and thus, in their usual arrogance, needed to give themselves a special spot. It's just a crock. From now on, I'll refer to far-western Asia as just that. Join me in righting this wrong!

                                Ravings en masse^

                                "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote:

                                "Flying" across Europe and into Asia, via the live view camera on the ISS, the obvious hoax is all too evident. The separation between between the continent of Asia and the alleged continent of Europe is the Ural's.

                                A lot of history you choose to ignore there.

                                Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                                  I'd always assumed that the definition of a continent was based on geology, rather than geography. The "current" idea of where the Asia/Europe border exists seems very fluid; countries that in my youth were firmly considered to be in Asia are apparently now "European", including even Russia. When the Eurovision Song Contest accepted Israel as a contestant I was vaguely uncomfortable with it; when Australia was welcomed in, I realised the thing was a con. (Europe, not the ESC). My assumption was that the Urals formed (as many mountain ranges do) a border between land masses / tectonic plates. That seemed to make sense, although didn't explain why the concept of Asia and Europe being separate continents dated back hundreds of years. Yet they're not, despite the Urals appearing perhaps to be a result of tectonic collision. So I have to agree that the distinction is purely for cultural / religious / political purposes. Further if continents were really to be based on tectonics, then the Caribbean would be a continent, as would the Philippines and, perhaps surprisingly, the Falkland islands. And the Pacific itself would be a continent. On the other hand, I can't agree to the concept of "far-western Asia". Given that the world is centred (obviously) around London, Asia only extends a few hundred miles into the Western hemisphere but 8000-odd miles to the Eastern. At -1º longitude I obviously live in western Asia, but I'm not sure I could call it far western :-D The other "proof" that Europe isn't really a continent is that, unlike the true continents, it's name does not start and end with an "A". Definitive proof, eh? Yet another reason for the EU to call it quits, though... :doh:

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                                  Drain the Oceans[^]

                                  Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                                    Drain the Oceans[^]

                                    Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                                    Could be worse... could be Belgium.

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                                      Could be worse... could be Belgium.

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                                      :D All joking aside; the hospital I visit is near the border, and half the nurses are Belgian. And they more friendly than the Dutch.

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                                        W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote:

                                        The basic reason that is probably the only "justification" is that the early map-makers (per current usages) were Europeans and thus, in their usual arrogance, needed to give themselves a special spot.

                                        Ehr.. We do have one. Running economics. There's no US without Europe, and that's being kind.

                                        Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                                        W Balboos GHB
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                                        Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                                        There's no US without Europ

                                        Let me clarify your slight error. It is without the US you'd either have that (your) part of the world as part of the Third Reich or Satellites states of the Soviet Union. Now, get back to stroking that inferiority complex . . .

                                        Ravings en masse^

                                        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                          W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote:

                                          "Flying" across Europe and into Asia, via the live view camera on the ISS, the obvious hoax is all too evident. The separation between between the continent of Asia and the alleged continent of Europe is the Ural's.

                                          A lot of history you choose to ignore there.

                                          Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                                          W Balboos GHB
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                                          Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                                          A lot of history you choose to ignore there.

                                          History doesn't really define land-masses associations with one another. Perhaps, in the ephemeral time scale of human nations it has some sort of relevance but for all their shouting and jumping up and down and wars and conquests the continents just don't seem to move. Western Asia as its own continent? That came about in the era of belief in a "Flat Earth" - map makers from the time before pasta was brought to Italy and the discovery that their little plague ridden plot wasn't the center of the earth.

                                          Ravings en masse^

                                          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                          "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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