It's Time This Fraud Ended
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In no particular order:
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
And now, we paying NATO for an enemy that doesn't exist.
First, of course, those living in the Ukrain would tent to differ. Those in Georgia, too. As a start. Meanwhile, if anyone profited from NATO it's you. US troops stationed in Europe allowed you to have smaller armies (saves money) and put those people to productive work (make money). For the majority of you, you've been living off the welfare of my taxes all your lives. Just in case you haven't noticed: perestroika and glasnost are dead.
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
Where all movies show you as our liberators, you didn't want to get involved in WW2, tried to be neutral.
Absolutely - you had those :elephant:ing Nazi on the run! Of course - that's what your current movies show, right?
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
The problem is American warfare. Never declared war, but not a year goes by that they not in a war.
and add to that your quote, worth a repeat at this juncture,
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
Where all movies show you as our liberators, you didn't want to get involved in WW2, tried to be neutral.
Apparently your viewpoint on the thing changes as is convenient. This is implicitly addressed below (vide post). One thing about that which I hope cames to and an end: :elephant:ing Europe sees a hot-spot and wants to know what us "Muricans" will do about it. Send your own children out to return in body bags. It's time you all grow up and take care of things yourself as energetically as you attack the huge "Murican" companies whenever your failed EU needs a few extra billion. Really, not living in the UK, I saw BREXIT as a spectator sport. Now, however, seeing how you handle your own affairs - like getting COVID vaccines authorized - and those who wanted BREXIT are totally vindicated. You just love pronouncements and meetings and get-togethers. Sometimes, however, you need to do something that costs you . . . that lives up to the lofty perch you put yourselves on as leaders of pluralistic compassion and, well, we always see the same thing: Money Talks. Like Nord Stream. Scream about and condemn Putin's behavior, so long as doing something about it doesn't cost money. Rinse. Lather. Repeat. So, next time a crisis exists, marshal a vast "Army of the EU" and set th
Those the arguments we been taught in school; and you always have an array of arguments, and I welcome the time you spent in writing them down. Still; this is CodeProject, not a history site and I don't want to repeat the same mistakes. If you'd like, and ehr, be'd willing, we could continue on private mail. Your account allows for direct mails, mine not; so, I'd have to open before you get mail email-address. So, unless you post here "don't", I'll send my arguments in a few days. A few days are needed, because I sounded accusatory and (unrelated) need to update my resume. But not continuing this here. Also would be open-minded, I might learn from another view. Can't learn anything if I just blindly repeat my own nonsense. You game?
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Those the arguments we been taught in school; and you always have an array of arguments, and I welcome the time you spent in writing them down. Still; this is CodeProject, not a history site and I don't want to repeat the same mistakes. If you'd like, and ehr, be'd willing, we could continue on private mail. Your account allows for direct mails, mine not; so, I'd have to open before you get mail email-address. So, unless you post here "don't", I'll send my arguments in a few days. A few days are needed, because I sounded accusatory and (unrelated) need to update my resume. But not continuing this here. Also would be open-minded, I might learn from another view. Can't learn anything if I just blindly repeat my own nonsense. You game?
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
No particular reason not to keep this as lounge leisure. In my quite a few years foraging on this planet I've been on the left and on the right. What I've learned is there's some wisdom to consume on both sides - but always there's the dress of pure Bullshit. The fringe seems to always have an excessive voice and maybe because they're willing, as fringe-dwellers, to put in that extra effort. One example, on the left (for your benefit) was when several of my (primary) friends joined "YSA" (Young Socialist Alliance). It turned them into little capitalists as the main topic of conversations was how many "subs" they sold. Subscriptions to their "party organ". From the inside they couldn't see it - funds were needed - ah, yes - always an excuse. So - I find myself a left-wing conservative (or is that right-wing liberal?). Oddly, however, instead of getting along with more I find myself getting along with fewer. So - your posts, as a whole, remind me of the teachings (at least) of the left-wing era, those who always found fault with everything done by "Amerika". If you look for something wrong with pretty much anything done by anyone you will find it. Surely the presentation of WW II, for example, was not how John Wayne depicted it - but Europe was defeated with the exception of the UK, which was going down the tubes. Japan attacked; US declared war on them; Germany, by treaty, was then obligated to declare war on the US. As I understand it, there was no joy in the Fatherland when that occurred (large population, huge resources out of bombing range, natural resource, huge industrial base, etc.). To the Germans, this was a bad move (something treaties love). Look how the right (getting very recent) lied through their teeth to get us (and others) into Iraq. My argument, whilst the UN was looking for WMD was for US/UK intelligence to give them a site since they know they're there. Amongst the arguments was they were unwilling to compromise their agents. I knew then and there, before the first shot was fired, that they were lying. Result? Iran, their mortal enemy, was delighted and I figured we'd end up with Iran I and Iran II as a result. I never dreamed of ISIS. As I've mentioned at other times, I make it my business to watch European news (DW, France24, BBC, etc.). One thing I noticed is their lying by omission (like everyone else) about the Middle East. It seems leaving out the negatives in the "palestinian narrative) and pretty much anything positive about Israel is a give (DW isn't as b
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No particular reason not to keep this as lounge leisure. In my quite a few years foraging on this planet I've been on the left and on the right. What I've learned is there's some wisdom to consume on both sides - but always there's the dress of pure Bullshit. The fringe seems to always have an excessive voice and maybe because they're willing, as fringe-dwellers, to put in that extra effort. One example, on the left (for your benefit) was when several of my (primary) friends joined "YSA" (Young Socialist Alliance). It turned them into little capitalists as the main topic of conversations was how many "subs" they sold. Subscriptions to their "party organ". From the inside they couldn't see it - funds were needed - ah, yes - always an excuse. So - I find myself a left-wing conservative (or is that right-wing liberal?). Oddly, however, instead of getting along with more I find myself getting along with fewer. So - your posts, as a whole, remind me of the teachings (at least) of the left-wing era, those who always found fault with everything done by "Amerika". If you look for something wrong with pretty much anything done by anyone you will find it. Surely the presentation of WW II, for example, was not how John Wayne depicted it - but Europe was defeated with the exception of the UK, which was going down the tubes. Japan attacked; US declared war on them; Germany, by treaty, was then obligated to declare war on the US. As I understand it, there was no joy in the Fatherland when that occurred (large population, huge resources out of bombing range, natural resource, huge industrial base, etc.). To the Germans, this was a bad move (something treaties love). Look how the right (getting very recent) lied through their teeth to get us (and others) into Iraq. My argument, whilst the UN was looking for WMD was for US/UK intelligence to give them a site since they know they're there. Amongst the arguments was they were unwilling to compromise their agents. I knew then and there, before the first shot was fired, that they were lying. Result? Iran, their mortal enemy, was delighted and I figured we'd end up with Iran I and Iran II as a result. I never dreamed of ISIS. As I've mentioned at other times, I make it my business to watch European news (DW, France24, BBC, etc.). One thing I noticed is their lying by omission (like everyone else) about the Middle East. It seems leaving out the negatives in the "palestinian narrative) and pretty much anything positive about Israel is a give (DW isn't as b
W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote:
No particular reason not to keep this as lounge leisure.
Wrote two long explanations; and had to agree more than disagree. ..but; "Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table" Seems to want to reply to a nonexisting CP address. Hmz; I could post my private email address and delete the post immediatly? That way you'd get a copy, without it being very long visible in the forums. And half of the arguments are cultural and schooling. And part of it is Europe not being honest. So.. nothing new there.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote:
No particular reason not to keep this as lounge leisure.
Wrote two long explanations; and had to agree more than disagree. ..but; "Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table" Seems to want to reply to a nonexisting CP address. Hmz; I could post my private email address and delete the post immediatly? That way you'd get a copy, without it being very long visible in the forums. And half of the arguments are cultural and schooling. And part of it is Europe not being honest. So.. nothing new there.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
I have occasional email contacts - initiated via the link on posts here in the lounge. I presume all such links work. Posting in the lounge helps me keep the tone down. The answer to all things can be found below, in the tagline area: "Ravings en masse" link. Some of it will be of dubious interest to you. Other text may initiate profound life-changing events. I'll preview the last entry for you:
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Byword of the wealthy: "You can never have too much of more than you'll ever need." - December 8 2020 11:53 PM
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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I have occasional email contacts - initiated via the link on posts here in the lounge. I presume all such links work. Posting in the lounge helps me keep the tone down. The answer to all things can be found below, in the tagline area: "Ravings en masse" link. Some of it will be of dubious interest to you. Other text may initiate profound life-changing events. I'll preview the last entry for you:
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Byword of the wealthy: "You can never have too much of more than you'll ever need." - December 8 2020 11:53 PM
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote:
initiated via the link on posts here in the lounge.
I replied over email since it seemed to allow that and seemed to work. Will be copying those replies later this day.
W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote:
Some of it will be of dubious interest to you
All of them of interest. I need not agree, but all of them provide knowledge. And in the case I disagree, you provide arguments on why I should. I'll put both responses into one. Will be a long read, but you had a lot to say. Respond at your leisure.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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I have occasional email contacts - initiated via the link on posts here in the lounge. I presume all such links work. Posting in the lounge helps me keep the tone down. The answer to all things can be found below, in the tagline area: "Ravings en masse" link. Some of it will be of dubious interest to you. Other text may initiate profound life-changing events. I'll preview the last entry for you:
Quote:
Byword of the wealthy: "You can never have too much of more than you'll ever need." - December 8 2020 11:53 PM
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote:
I have occasional email contacts - initiated via the link on posts here in the lounge. I presume all such links work
Not "reply" from CP.
W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote:
Posting in the lounge helps me keep the tone down.
I often react out of emotion, while looking for logic. But I'd not want you to tone down in private mails, just want your unredacted opinion. And yes, cursing allowed if you need it.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote:
I have occasional email contacts - initiated via the link on posts here in the lounge. I presume all such links work
Not "reply" from CP.
W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote:
Posting in the lounge helps me keep the tone down.
I often react out of emotion, while looking for logic. But I'd not want you to tone down in private mails, just want your unredacted opinion. And yes, cursing allowed if you need it.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
In the age of the internet, "unredacted" is a dangerous path! When I am running for US President or head of EU, or Grand Emperor Lux Terra, I don't want anything being whipped out to f* me! Non-Partisan Rant: One thing it seems is that despite all the oh-so-humanitarian pronouncements, Asia, west of the Urals, hasn't really learned a thing from the World Wars. Meanwhile, the US is heading back towards polarization that will, if "they" gain enough power, follow the McCarthy Hearings era and those days when the KKK marched proudly in the streets of Washington DC. Russia? They've already headed well back towards the Soviet era. China's taking advantage of capitalist greed by out-capitalisting them. Socialism? Capitalism? Full circle from one to the other. Just make sure you're not at the bottom of the pile. Our natural instinct for survival, expressed as greed, wins every time. Some "They" have not learned from history because, for those in the right positions, repeating it is very lucrative. not an endorsement: next to 'reply', below, is 'email'
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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In the age of the internet, "unredacted" is a dangerous path! When I am running for US President or head of EU, or Grand Emperor Lux Terra, I don't want anything being whipped out to f* me! Non-Partisan Rant: One thing it seems is that despite all the oh-so-humanitarian pronouncements, Asia, west of the Urals, hasn't really learned a thing from the World Wars. Meanwhile, the US is heading back towards polarization that will, if "they" gain enough power, follow the McCarthy Hearings era and those days when the KKK marched proudly in the streets of Washington DC. Russia? They've already headed well back towards the Soviet era. China's taking advantage of capitalist greed by out-capitalisting them. Socialism? Capitalism? Full circle from one to the other. Just make sure you're not at the bottom of the pile. Our natural instinct for survival, expressed as greed, wins every time. Some "They" have not learned from history because, for those in the right positions, repeating it is very lucrative. not an endorsement: next to 'reply', below, is 'email'
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote:
Socialism? Capitalism? Full circle from one to the other.
Plato didn't have those names, and discouraged either. One of the regulatory forms he didn't offer, how about humanitarism?
W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote:
not an endorsement: next to 'reply', below, is 'email'
I did, a compilation of our last two emails. I wanted your opinion. If that fails, I post my email and delete it; you should get a copy.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote:
Socialism? Capitalism? Full circle from one to the other.
Plato didn't have those names, and discouraged either. One of the regulatory forms he didn't offer, how about humanitarism?
W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote:
not an endorsement: next to 'reply', below, is 'email'
I did, a compilation of our last two emails. I wanted your opinion. If that fails, I post my email and delete it; you should get a copy.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
Others have used the email thing, below, with success. Why doesn't it work for you is a question needing an answer.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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Others have used the email thing, below, with success. Why doesn't it work for you is a question needing an answer.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
I sent a reply on both of your posts using the mail button; worked as a single post and no error message either. eddyvluggen+fackspam@gmail.com Don't include the spam part, it's a very simple filter. If you mail there, I have the address you used to sign up here and will reply. After the other conversation though; to me, that's more interesting. More emotions in this one, but would prefer an answer on the metals before we continue this.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.