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  • J Jeff Bowman

    OK, thank you. Thanks, Jeff Bowman Fairbanks, Alaska

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    Explanation is here[^]. :)

    Robust Services Core | Software Techniques for Lemmings | Articles
    The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.

    <p><a href="https://github.com/GregUtas/robust-services-core/blob/master/README.md">Robust Services Core</a>
    <em>The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.</em></p>

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    • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

      Explanation is here[^]. :)

      Robust Services Core | Software Techniques for Lemmings | Articles
      The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.

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      That one has all the makings of a great story, and it's an enjoyable read, but alas the problem persists. An important clue is found in the fact that other CP downloads go off without a hitch. It's only this one that's giving a problem. I was able yesterday to get the file via a different ISP's network and then transfer it from my friend's computer to mine. But even then the download was slow and erratic. Also: I can't connect to the CP web server at all via another network that's owned by my ISP. The main landing page doesn't even load, and the connection attempt times out. So there's something strange going on here. I don't know how to reach someone at CP to discuss this, if it's possible. Thanks, Jeff Bowman Fairbanks, Alaska

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      • J Jeff Bowman

        That one has all the makings of a great story, and it's an enjoyable read, but alas the problem persists. An important clue is found in the fact that other CP downloads go off without a hitch. It's only this one that's giving a problem. I was able yesterday to get the file via a different ISP's network and then transfer it from my friend's computer to mine. But even then the download was slow and erratic. Also: I can't connect to the CP web server at all via another network that's owned by my ISP. The main landing page doesn't even load, and the connection attempt times out. So there's something strange going on here. I don't know how to reach someone at CP to discuss this, if it's possible. Thanks, Jeff Bowman Fairbanks, Alaska

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        Matthew Dennis originally replied to your post. You can "summon" someone by prefixing a "@" to their username (you'll see this string in their profile if you click on their name). So if you reply to this message and include "@" in the message, followed by "matthew-dennis", he'll be told that he was mentioned in a post and will come running to see what the fuss is about. :)

        Robust Services Core | Software Techniques for Lemmings | Articles
        The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.

        <p><a href="https://github.com/GregUtas/robust-services-core/blob/master/README.md">Robust Services Core</a>
        <em>The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.</em></p>

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        • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

          Matthew Dennis originally replied to your post. You can "summon" someone by prefixing a "@" to their username (you'll see this string in their profile if you click on their name). So if you reply to this message and include "@" in the message, followed by "matthew-dennis", he'll be told that he was mentioned in a post and will come running to see what the fuss is about. :)

          Robust Services Core | Software Techniques for Lemmings | Articles
          The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.

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          Jeff Bowman
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          Perfect, thanks! I like your bit of hedgehog wisdom. I'm going to impart it on my neighbor :) @matthew-dennis

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          • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

            Matthew Dennis originally replied to your post. You can "summon" someone by prefixing a "@" to their username (you'll see this string in their profile if you click on their name). So if you reply to this message and include "@" in the message, followed by "matthew-dennis", he'll be told that he was mentioned in a post and will come running to see what the fuss is about. :)

            Robust Services Core | Software Techniques for Lemmings | Articles
            The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.

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            Nelek
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            Greg Utas wrote:

            he'll be told that he was mentioned in a post and will come running to see what the fuss is about.

            That's discutible :rolleyes: ;P :laugh:

            M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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            • J Jeff Bowman

              Perfect, thanks! I like your bit of hedgehog wisdom. I'm going to impart it on my neighbor :) @matthew-dennis

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              Chris Maunder
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              Hey Jeff, Can you trying doing a tracert www.codeproject.com to see where the bottleneck is? (only worry about the nodes up until peer1. Everything after that will timeout on purpose)

              cheers Chris Maunder

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                Hey Jeff, Can you trying doing a tracert www.codeproject.com to see where the bottleneck is? (only worry about the nodes up until peer1. Everything after that will timeout on purpose)

                cheers Chris Maunder

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                Jeff Bowman
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                Here's what I got:

                Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.19041.746]
                (c) 2020 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

                C:\Users\Work>tracert www.codeproject.com

                Tracing route to www.codeproject.com [76.74.234.210]
                over a maximum of 30 hops:

                1 <1 ms 1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
                2 66 ms 66 ms 86 ms br1.grn.acsalaska.net [209.193.63.232]
                3 139 ms 140 ms 135 ms ae8-2000-mx1.grn.acsalaska.net [63.140.116.220]
                4 182 ms 192 ms 186 ms ae10-r2.nwc.acsalaska.net [63.140.116.68]
                5 92 ms 90 ms 90 ms ae9-r2.sea.acsalaska.net [63.140.116.225]
                6 92 ms 90 ms 89 ms sea-b2-link.telia.net [213.248.86.126]
                7 208 ms 218 ms 203 ms chi-b23-link.ip.twelve99.net [62.115.117.49]
                8 175 ms 212 ms 150 ms aptumtech-svc072773-ic360373.c.telia.net [62.115.175.229]
                9 204 ms 230 ms 245 ms et-3-0-2.tor-fr709-dis-1.peer1.net [216.187.88.61]
                10 203 ms 202 ms 228 ms tor-fr402-xe3-1.peer1.net [216.187.113.86]
                11 * * * Request timed out.
                12 * * * Request timed out.
                13 * * * Request timed out.
                14 * * * Request timed out.
                15 * * * Request timed out.
                16 * * * Request timed out.
                17 * * * Request timed out.
                18 * * * Request timed out.
                19 * * * Request timed out.
                20 * * * Request timed out.
                21 * * * Request timed out.
                22 * * * Request timed out.
                23 * * * Request timed out.
                24 * * * Request timed out.
                25 * * * Request timed out.
                26 * * * Request timed out.
                27 * * * Request timed out.
                28 * * * Request timed out.
                29 * * * Request timed out.
                30 * * * Request timed out.

                Trace complete.

                This is from my ISP's network that can reach your server but can't download the file. I called them to discuss their other network that can't reach your server at all, and the tech asked me to bypass the WatchGuard router there, temporarily plug a laptop directly into their switch and manually assign an IP from the range they've allocated. If after that I still can't connect, he suggested the possibility that you may be blocking a range of IPs that includes their range. Do you

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                • J Jeff Bowman

                  Here's what I got:

                  Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.19041.746]
                  (c) 2020 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

                  C:\Users\Work>tracert www.codeproject.com

                  Tracing route to www.codeproject.com [76.74.234.210]
                  over a maximum of 30 hops:

                  1 <1 ms 1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
                  2 66 ms 66 ms 86 ms br1.grn.acsalaska.net [209.193.63.232]
                  3 139 ms 140 ms 135 ms ae8-2000-mx1.grn.acsalaska.net [63.140.116.220]
                  4 182 ms 192 ms 186 ms ae10-r2.nwc.acsalaska.net [63.140.116.68]
                  5 92 ms 90 ms 90 ms ae9-r2.sea.acsalaska.net [63.140.116.225]
                  6 92 ms 90 ms 89 ms sea-b2-link.telia.net [213.248.86.126]
                  7 208 ms 218 ms 203 ms chi-b23-link.ip.twelve99.net [62.115.117.49]
                  8 175 ms 212 ms 150 ms aptumtech-svc072773-ic360373.c.telia.net [62.115.175.229]
                  9 204 ms 230 ms 245 ms et-3-0-2.tor-fr709-dis-1.peer1.net [216.187.88.61]
                  10 203 ms 202 ms 228 ms tor-fr402-xe3-1.peer1.net [216.187.113.86]
                  11 * * * Request timed out.
                  12 * * * Request timed out.
                  13 * * * Request timed out.
                  14 * * * Request timed out.
                  15 * * * Request timed out.
                  16 * * * Request timed out.
                  17 * * * Request timed out.
                  18 * * * Request timed out.
                  19 * * * Request timed out.
                  20 * * * Request timed out.
                  21 * * * Request timed out.
                  22 * * * Request timed out.
                  23 * * * Request timed out.
                  24 * * * Request timed out.
                  25 * * * Request timed out.
                  26 * * * Request timed out.
                  27 * * * Request timed out.
                  28 * * * Request timed out.
                  29 * * * Request timed out.
                  30 * * * Request timed out.

                  Trace complete.

                  This is from my ISP's network that can reach your server but can't download the file. I called them to discuss their other network that can't reach your server at all, and the tech asked me to bypass the WatchGuard router there, temporarily plug a laptop directly into their switch and manually assign an IP from the range they've allocated. If after that I still can't connect, he suggested the possibility that you may be blocking a range of IPs that includes their range. Do you

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                  Chris Maunder
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                  We can't test anything downstream. My guess: someone or something is blocking us. Do you have any ad blockers installed (or uBlock?) They play absolute havoc with sites.

                  cheers Chris Maunder

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                  • C Chris Maunder

                    We can't test anything downstream. My guess: someone or something is blocking us. Do you have any ad blockers installed (or uBlock?) They play absolute havoc with sites.

                    cheers Chris Maunder

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                    Jeff Bowman
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                    Chris Maunder wrote:

                    We can't test anything downstream

                    Sure, I understand. But if your network admins were intentionally blocking an IP range—for whatever reason—wouldn't you be able to find that out? My network: I use ABP, but I turned it off for CP. Same result (the download starts fine but then incoming packets halt at about 10% complete). I don't use an ad blocker at the other network. This is really odd, because page loads are just fine. I can download files from other articles lickety-split. It's just this one file from this one article. Thanks, Jeff Bowman Fairbanks, Alaska

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                    • C Chris Maunder

                      We can't test anything downstream. My guess: someone or something is blocking us. Do you have any ad blockers installed (or uBlock?) They play absolute havoc with sites.

                      cheers Chris Maunder

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                      Jeff Bowman
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                      Chris Maunder wrote:

                      We can't test anything downstream

                      p.s. Not sure what you mean by downstream in this context.

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                      • J Jeff Bowman

                        Here's what I got:

                        Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.19041.746]
                        (c) 2020 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

                        C:\Users\Work>tracert www.codeproject.com

                        Tracing route to www.codeproject.com [76.74.234.210]
                        over a maximum of 30 hops:

                        1 <1 ms 1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
                        2 66 ms 66 ms 86 ms br1.grn.acsalaska.net [209.193.63.232]
                        3 139 ms 140 ms 135 ms ae8-2000-mx1.grn.acsalaska.net [63.140.116.220]
                        4 182 ms 192 ms 186 ms ae10-r2.nwc.acsalaska.net [63.140.116.68]
                        5 92 ms 90 ms 90 ms ae9-r2.sea.acsalaska.net [63.140.116.225]
                        6 92 ms 90 ms 89 ms sea-b2-link.telia.net [213.248.86.126]
                        7 208 ms 218 ms 203 ms chi-b23-link.ip.twelve99.net [62.115.117.49]
                        8 175 ms 212 ms 150 ms aptumtech-svc072773-ic360373.c.telia.net [62.115.175.229]
                        9 204 ms 230 ms 245 ms et-3-0-2.tor-fr709-dis-1.peer1.net [216.187.88.61]
                        10 203 ms 202 ms 228 ms tor-fr402-xe3-1.peer1.net [216.187.113.86]
                        11 * * * Request timed out.
                        12 * * * Request timed out.
                        13 * * * Request timed out.
                        14 * * * Request timed out.
                        15 * * * Request timed out.
                        16 * * * Request timed out.
                        17 * * * Request timed out.
                        18 * * * Request timed out.
                        19 * * * Request timed out.
                        20 * * * Request timed out.
                        21 * * * Request timed out.
                        22 * * * Request timed out.
                        23 * * * Request timed out.
                        24 * * * Request timed out.
                        25 * * * Request timed out.
                        26 * * * Request timed out.
                        27 * * * Request timed out.
                        28 * * * Request timed out.
                        29 * * * Request timed out.
                        30 * * * Request timed out.

                        Trace complete.

                        This is from my ISP's network that can reach your server but can't download the file. I called them to discuss their other network that can't reach your server at all, and the tech asked me to bypass the WatchGuard router there, temporarily plug a laptop directly into their switch and manually assign an IP from the range they've allocated. If after that I still can't connect, he suggested the possibility that you may be blocking a range of IPs that includes their range. Do you

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                        Jeff Bowman wrote:

                        WatchGuard router

                        Interesting...within the last week CodeProject is blocked at work by the WatchGuard router, they claim that it is being detected as a botnet. I'll have to work on the boss to make the exception. :(

                        "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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                        • J Jeff Bowman

                          Chris Maunder wrote:

                          We can't test anything downstream

                          p.s. Not sure what you mean by downstream in this context.

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                          Sorry: I meant anything outside of our systems we can't test. We can ping / tracert from us to your ISP but that probably won't tell us much. Sounds like there's a block in there somewhere

                          cheers Chris Maunder

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                          • J jeron1

                            Jeff Bowman wrote:

                            WatchGuard router

                            Interesting...within the last week CodeProject is blocked at work by the WatchGuard router, they claim that it is being detected as a botnet. I'll have to work on the boss to make the exception. :(

                            "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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                            :doh: We'll ask our IT guys to dig in and see who they need to slap to get this sorted.

                            cheers Chris Maunder

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                              Sorry: I meant anything outside of our systems we can't test. We can ping / tracert from us to your ISP but that probably won't tell us much. Sounds like there's a block in there somewhere

                              cheers Chris Maunder

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                              Jeff Bowman
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                              Chris Maunder wrote:

                              Sounds like there's a block in there somewhere

                              Yes, you're correct. Our WatchGuard firewall appliance was incorrectly blocking the site. Thanks to @jeron1 for assisting with that. Download attempts for the article's source code are still timing out, though. It starts off like a bull, traffic slows down to fits and starts for a bit, and then everything goes quiet. Thanks, Jeff Bowman Fairbanks, Alaska

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                                Jeff Bowman wrote:

                                WatchGuard router

                                Interesting...within the last week CodeProject is blocked at work by the WatchGuard router, they claim that it is being detected as a botnet. I'll have to work on the boss to make the exception. :(

                                "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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                                Jeff Bowman
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                                This was exactly the issue. I'm not sure why I didn't think to check for it, so your suggestion was very timely. I added an exception for `*.codeproject.com` and all was well. Thanks, Jeff Bowman Fairbanks, Alaska

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                                  This was exactly the issue. I'm not sure why I didn't think to check for it, so your suggestion was very timely. I added an exception for `*.codeproject.com` and all was well. Thanks, Jeff Bowman Fairbanks, Alaska

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                                  :thumbsup: Good to hear!

                                  "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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                                    :doh: We'll ask our IT guys to dig in and see who they need to slap to get this sorted.

                                    cheers Chris Maunder

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                                    jeron1
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                                    I'm not sure what happened, I've used this site for years at work, then all of the sudden nothing but connection timeouts... Maybe a WatchGuard update botched things up, the fact that someone else had a similar issue seems too coincidental.

                                    "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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