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    Not a single case of flu detected by Public Health England this year as Covid restrictions suppress virus | The Independent[^] Working from home reduces transmission, handwashing, sanitisers, masks, ... but not even one case? Impressive.

    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
    "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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      Not a single case of flu detected by Public Health England this year as Covid restrictions suppress virus | The Independent[^] Working from home reduces transmission, handwashing, sanitisers, masks, ... but not even one case? Impressive.

      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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      I wonder how many normal flu cases coincided with Covid

      "I didn't mention the bats - he'd see them soon enough" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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        Not a single case of flu detected by Public Health England this year as Covid restrictions suppress virus | The Independent[^] Working from home reduces transmission, handwashing, sanitisers, masks, ... but not even one case? Impressive.

        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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        20212a
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        We'll probably also have the unintended consequence of weaker immune systems.

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          Not a single case of flu detected by Public Health England this year as Covid restrictions suppress virus | The Independent[^] Working from home reduces transmission, handwashing, sanitisers, masks, ... but not even one case? Impressive.

          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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          My guess is they're either not looking or they're also calling instances of the flu Covid.

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          • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

            My guess is they're either not looking or they're also calling instances of the flu Covid.

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            I don't know about the UK, but in the US, the CDC put out new "guidance" last may witch caused covid to placed in section one of the death reports and all the other conditions in section two. Basically, if you had covid (or were suspected of having covid...no testing was required), your death was marked down as covid. Up until last year, your cause of death was determined, not automatically designated as dying from the mal du jour.

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            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

              Not a single case of flu detected by Public Health England this year as Covid restrictions suppress virus | The Independent[^] Working from home reduces transmission, handwashing, sanitisers, masks, ... but not even one case? Impressive.

              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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              I would love to get the flu every year if it meant I could socialize without distancing, and not wearing a mask for the rest of my life. Humans are social creatures.

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              • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

                My guess is they're either not looking or they're also calling instances of the flu Covid.

                Robust Services Core | Software Techniques for Lemmings | Articles
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                If they are sticking to the 'rules' here in the UK, then only deaths within 28 days of testing positive are counted as Covid.

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                  Not a single case of flu detected by Public Health England this year as Covid restrictions suppress virus | The Independent[^] Working from home reduces transmission, handwashing, sanitisers, masks, ... but not even one case? Impressive.

                  "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                  Dan Neely
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                  not surprising, flu was MIA 6 months ago in the south. Even in normal circumstances it only has an R around 1. The same masks and distancing that pushed covid-19 from 3 to 1ish would have only 1 in 3 people with the flu infecting anyone else. That's enough to crush it short term; but even if we could drive human cases all the way to zero it'd spring back from animal reservoirs once things return to normalish.

                  Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                  • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

                    My guess is they're either not looking or they're also calling instances of the flu Covid.

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                    This exactly. Null only exists in software, and even there it can be assigned to an object.

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                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                      Not a single case of flu detected by Public Health England this year as Covid restrictions suppress virus | The Independent[^] Working from home reduces transmission, handwashing, sanitisers, masks, ... but not even one case? Impressive.

                      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                      Survival of the fittest virus.

                      It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food

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                        I don't know about the UK, but in the US, the CDC put out new "guidance" last may witch caused covid to placed in section one of the death reports and all the other conditions in section two. Basically, if you had covid (or were suspected of having covid...no testing was required), your death was marked down as covid. Up until last year, your cause of death was determined, not automatically designated as dying from the mal du jour.

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                        Yes, that even included if you were in an accident and you were decapitated, your cause of death would be marked as "COVID" if any evidence of covid. Kinda stoopink.

                        #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                          Not a single case of flu detected by Public Health England this year as Covid restrictions suppress virus | The Independent[^] Working from home reduces transmission, handwashing, sanitisers, masks, ... but not even one case? Impressive.

                          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                          OriginalGriff wrote:

                          but not even one case? Impressive. Highly unlikely.

                          FTFY. That's because the actual cases of the flu have been filed under Covid, as "mild" or "asymptomatic". Who's gonna check? You *know* it to be true...

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                            Yes, that even included if you were in an accident and you were decapitated, your cause of death would be marked as "COVID" if any evidence of covid. Kinda stoopink.

                            #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                            More precisely: You go to your doctor, you get labeled positive. Then on your way back home you die in a car accident. Then someone updates the stats based on something like: SELECT COUNT(*) FROM Patients WHERE Covid = 1 AND CurrentState = 'Dead' It's not incorrect. But it's including things that shouldn't be there.

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                              I would love to get the flu every year if it meant I could socialize without distancing, and not wearing a mask for the rest of my life. Humans are social creatures.

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                              Slacker007 wrote:

                              not wearing a mask for the rest of my life.

                              I think we'll see a lot of people who will wear a mask all the time, pandemic or not.

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                                I would love to get the flu every year if it meant I could socialize without distancing, and not wearing a mask for the rest of my life. Humans are social creatures.

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                                glennPattonWork3
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                                I am the complete opposite, when this thing is beaten back and I 'have' to go to work (commuting!!), I will find it a bind, I mean wearing trousers & I have only been on a train three times this year!

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                                • G GenJerDan

                                  I don't know about the UK, but in the US, the CDC put out new "guidance" last may witch caused covid to placed in section one of the death reports and all the other conditions in section two. Basically, if you had covid (or were suspected of having covid...no testing was required), your death was marked down as covid. Up until last year, your cause of death was determined, not automatically designated as dying from the mal du jour.

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                                  GenJerDan wrote:

                                  in the US, the CDC put out new "guidance" last may witch caused covid to placed in section one of the death reports and all the other conditions in section two. Basically, if you had covid (or were suspected of having covid...no testing was required), your death was marked down as covid.

                                  I've seen this rumor / claim several times since last summer, but never with a reference to the source so that I could see for myself the actual wording in this directive. It really makes no sense at all. First, lots of death causes couldn't possibly be covered up the way you describe. Second, it would not benefit anyone (in spite of what conspiracy believers claim). Third, claims like "suspected of having covid...no testing was required") is the kind of wording that is typical for urban myths, not for directives from the CDC. Fourth, if doctors all over the USA were ordered to lie, filing a drowning, a car accident crushing several people to death, or a killing by hand weapons as covid deaths, just because the victims were 'suspected' of having covid, would cause an uproar among the doctors. Maybe a few of them would do as told, but not the great majority. Certainly not all. I haven't heard any uproar from American doctors. Not even mild protests. If this really is true, it cannot be kept as a secret, it must be published and available to every doctor certified to sign a death certificate. These doctors cannot trust what is said by some journalist or reader posting to the comment section of a web paper, but must have the original directive. So it should be easy to dig up. Until that happens, I consider this "guidance" to lie somewhere between an urban myth and a conspiracy theory.

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                                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                    Not a single case of flu detected by Public Health England this year as Covid restrictions suppress virus | The Independent[^] Working from home reduces transmission, handwashing, sanitisers, masks, ... but not even one case? Impressive.

                                    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                                    There also hasn't been a case of death from old age in the past year. :confused:

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