How much coffee does one man need?
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I have been drinking 2 to 3 mugs (substantial mugs - 0.3 liters) of my favorite brew in the early morning to jump start my day. But lately I find that the good effect starts to wear off after 3 to 4 hours. Now I wonder, should I brew another lot just after lunch, or will that be too much? What say you? Is it even possible to have too much coffee? :java::java::java::java::java:
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
Cp-Coder wrote:
Is it even possible to have too much coffee?
Yes, that possible, not say me but my doctor. We grew up with coffee and didn't drink anything else. Coffee dehydrates the body. So I'd get thirsty and drink more coffee.
Cp-Coder wrote:
But lately I find that the good effect starts to wear off after 3 to 4 hours.
Try sleeping more, and you need the effect less :thumbsup:
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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I have been drinking 2 to 3 mugs (substantial mugs - 0.3 liters) of my favorite brew in the early morning to jump start my day. But lately I find that the good effect starts to wear off after 3 to 4 hours. Now I wonder, should I brew another lot just after lunch, or will that be too much? What say you? Is it even possible to have too much coffee? :java::java::java::java::java:
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
I have participated in a few ultra-marathons lasting in the 50-70 hour range. Leading up to these events, I cut out caffeine completely for at least 1 month leading up to the event. I always feel better and more awake about a week without. During the event, I use it sparingly to help me get through the night with as little sleep as possible. When used little, it has one heck of an effect. Then after the race, I go back to my old habits and it quickly stops working and becomes a crutch to stay normal. Think I would lean after as many times as I've completed this cycle. Now to get another cup of coffee!
Hogan
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I have participated in a few ultra-marathons lasting in the 50-70 hour range. Leading up to these events, I cut out caffeine completely for at least 1 month leading up to the event. I always feel better and more awake about a week without. During the event, I use it sparingly to help me get through the night with as little sleep as possible. When used little, it has one heck of an effect. Then after the race, I go back to my old habits and it quickly stops working and becomes a crutch to stay normal. Think I would lean after as many times as I've completed this cycle. Now to get another cup of coffee!
Hogan
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Cp-Coder wrote:
Is it even possible to have too much coffee?
Yes, that possible, not say me but my doctor. We grew up with coffee and didn't drink anything else. Coffee dehydrates the body. So I'd get thirsty and drink more coffee.
Cp-Coder wrote:
But lately I find that the good effect starts to wear off after 3 to 4 hours.
Try sleeping more, and you need the effect less :thumbsup:
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
Coffee dehydrates the body
The net effect of a cup of coffee is still hydration (the diuretic effect is more than outweighed by the fluid you're taking in) Interestingly, wine and spirits have a diuretic effect but beer, evidently, doesn't.
cheers Chris Maunder
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I have been drinking 2 to 3 mugs (substantial mugs - 0.3 liters) of my favorite brew in the early morning to jump start my day. But lately I find that the good effect starts to wear off after 3 to 4 hours. Now I wonder, should I brew another lot just after lunch, or will that be too much? What say you? Is it even possible to have too much coffee? :java::java::java::java::java:
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
The health effect very much depend on how you brew the coffee. The worst alternative is boiling it the traditional way, with the coffee grounds boiling with the water. Almost as bad is boiling clear water, pull it aside and add the coffee. Espresso should not be enjoyed in large quanta either. The modern style with pods are in the middle between, but the most healthy, by far, is the filter coffee, using a paper filter. If you make your coffee using a paper filter, you probably can allow yourself another mug for lunch. If you boil the coffee grounds for a few minutes, medicals suggest that you keep the consumption down. (I knew one lady who seriously claimed that coffee had no taste unless boiled for at least five minutes... In modern times, she is the only one, and certainly only woman, I know to like it that way. Two generations ago, fishermen and lumberjacks used to add more water to the old grounds in the pot, adding grounds when the coffee getting too weak. They didn't clean out the pot until it was so full of grounds that there was no room for water, maybe once a week.) My experience with both coffee and tea (strong, and in huge amounts) is that your body gradually becomes immune to the stimulating effect of caffeine. For many years, I have had strong coffee (or tea) late at night, and fallen asleep immediately when going to bed. But I discovered that me getting drowsy after a few hours of work rather was due to dehydration. Nowadays, I can drink at least a liter of water through a typical day, and that keeps the drowsiness away.
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The health effect very much depend on how you brew the coffee. The worst alternative is boiling it the traditional way, with the coffee grounds boiling with the water. Almost as bad is boiling clear water, pull it aside and add the coffee. Espresso should not be enjoyed in large quanta either. The modern style with pods are in the middle between, but the most healthy, by far, is the filter coffee, using a paper filter. If you make your coffee using a paper filter, you probably can allow yourself another mug for lunch. If you boil the coffee grounds for a few minutes, medicals suggest that you keep the consumption down. (I knew one lady who seriously claimed that coffee had no taste unless boiled for at least five minutes... In modern times, she is the only one, and certainly only woman, I know to like it that way. Two generations ago, fishermen and lumberjacks used to add more water to the old grounds in the pot, adding grounds when the coffee getting too weak. They didn't clean out the pot until it was so full of grounds that there was no room for water, maybe once a week.) My experience with both coffee and tea (strong, and in huge amounts) is that your body gradually becomes immune to the stimulating effect of caffeine. For many years, I have had strong coffee (or tea) late at night, and fallen asleep immediately when going to bed. But I discovered that me getting drowsy after a few hours of work rather was due to dehydration. Nowadays, I can drink at least a liter of water through a typical day, and that keeps the drowsiness away.
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Nowadays, I can drink at least a liter of water through a typical day,
My old Scottish golfing buddy would warn you about undiluted water: I may cause you to rust. He believed water should always be diluted with a good whiskey! :-D
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
Coffee dehydrates the body
The net effect of a cup of coffee is still hydration (the diuretic effect is more than outweighed by the fluid you're taking in) Interestingly, wine and spirits have a diuretic effect but beer, evidently, doesn't.
cheers Chris Maunder
You've never heard the expression you drink water but rent beer?
I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.
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You've never heard the expression you drink water but rent beer?
I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.
:laugh: Live it and breath it!
cheers Chris Maunder
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
Coffee dehydrates the body
The net effect of a cup of coffee is still hydration (the diuretic effect is more than outweighed by the fluid you're taking in) Interestingly, wine and spirits have a diuretic effect but beer, evidently, doesn't.
cheers Chris Maunder
Chris Maunder wrote:
Interestingly, wine and spirits have a diuretic effect but beer, evidently, doesn't.
I have made it a habit to go on my bathroom scale every morning - still surprised how much my body weight jumps up and down. It is not that I gain 1.5 to 2 kg of fat from one day to the other, and loose it over the next day or two; it is the amount of liquids in my body. There is no doubt: My average body weight the mornings after I enjoyed a sixpack the night before is significantly lower (probably around 1 kg, if I had taken more detail notes) than mornings when I drank only water or tea the previous night. This is in spite of the fact that a sixpack adds three liters of liquid, 3 kg of weight, to my body. I cannot claim this to be 'scientific' and peer reviewed observations. It may just be a correlation(*), not a cause/effect. But in my case, there is definitely a correlation. (*) Correlation vs. cause/effect: - Dad, do you really want to wear those shoes? - Why not? I like to dress up a little when I go out with my buddies. - But every time you wear those shoes, you have a headache the next morning...
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Nowadays, I can drink at least a liter of water through a typical day,
My old Scottish golfing buddy would warn you about undiluted water: I may cause you to rust. He believed water should always be diluted with a good whiskey! :-D
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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I have been drinking 2 to 3 mugs (substantial mugs - 0.3 liters) of my favorite brew in the early morning to jump start my day. But lately I find that the good effect starts to wear off after 3 to 4 hours. Now I wonder, should I brew another lot just after lunch, or will that be too much? What say you? Is it even possible to have too much coffee? :java::java::java::java::java:
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
I brew my next cup when i'm halfway through the current one. There's plenty of time to not drink coffee when I'm dead.
Real programmers use butterflies
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I have been drinking 2 to 3 mugs (substantial mugs - 0.3 liters) of my favorite brew in the early morning to jump start my day. But lately I find that the good effect starts to wear off after 3 to 4 hours. Now I wonder, should I brew another lot just after lunch, or will that be too much? What say you? Is it even possible to have too much coffee? :java::java::java::java::java:
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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Chris Maunder wrote:
Interestingly, wine and spirits have a diuretic effect but beer, evidently, doesn't.
I have made it a habit to go on my bathroom scale every morning - still surprised how much my body weight jumps up and down. It is not that I gain 1.5 to 2 kg of fat from one day to the other, and loose it over the next day or two; it is the amount of liquids in my body. There is no doubt: My average body weight the mornings after I enjoyed a sixpack the night before is significantly lower (probably around 1 kg, if I had taken more detail notes) than mornings when I drank only water or tea the previous night. This is in spite of the fact that a sixpack adds three liters of liquid, 3 kg of weight, to my body. I cannot claim this to be 'scientific' and peer reviewed observations. It may just be a correlation(*), not a cause/effect. But in my case, there is definitely a correlation. (*) Correlation vs. cause/effect: - Dad, do you really want to wear those shoes? - Why not? I like to dress up a little when I go out with my buddies. - But every time you wear those shoes, you have a headache the next morning...
It's all that getting up on the tables and dancing after the 6-pack that's burning off the calories. Maybe you're drinking is actually making you fitter.
cheers Chris Maunder
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It's all that getting up on the tables and dancing after the 6-pack that's burning off the calories. Maybe you're drinking is actually making you fitter.
cheers Chris Maunder
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I have been drinking 2 to 3 mugs (substantial mugs - 0.3 liters) of my favorite brew in the early morning to jump start my day. But lately I find that the good effect starts to wear off after 3 to 4 hours. Now I wonder, should I brew another lot just after lunch, or will that be too much? What say you? Is it even possible to have too much coffee? :java::java::java::java::java:
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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I have been drinking 2 to 3 mugs (substantial mugs - 0.3 liters) of my favorite brew in the early morning to jump start my day. But lately I find that the good effect starts to wear off after 3 to 4 hours. Now I wonder, should I brew another lot just after lunch, or will that be too much? What say you? Is it even possible to have too much coffee? :java::java::java::java::java:
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
Well, I think you should reconsider drinking so much coffee. Read this: [Regular caffeine consumption 'affects brain structure', scientists say | Daily Mail Online](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-9273937/Regular-caffeine-consumption-affects-brain-structure-scientists-say.html)
Behzad
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I have been drinking 2 to 3 mugs (substantial mugs - 0.3 liters) of my favorite brew in the early morning to jump start my day. But lately I find that the good effect starts to wear off after 3 to 4 hours. Now I wonder, should I brew another lot just after lunch, or will that be too much? What say you? Is it even possible to have too much coffee? :java::java::java::java::java:
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
I drink two cups of strong coffee before I even think about going to the office. My biggest challenge in the morning is trying to make coffee before I have had coffee. I have on occasion waited patiently for the kettle to boil, having not even filled it up or switched it on.
Nothing succeeds like a budgie without teeth.
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I have been drinking 2 to 3 mugs (substantial mugs - 0.3 liters) of my favorite brew in the early morning to jump start my day. But lately I find that the good effect starts to wear off after 3 to 4 hours. Now I wonder, should I brew another lot just after lunch, or will that be too much? What say you? Is it even possible to have too much coffee? :java::java::java::java::java:
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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I have been drinking 2 to 3 mugs (substantial mugs - 0.3 liters) of my favorite brew in the early morning to jump start my day. But lately I find that the good effect starts to wear off after 3 to 4 hours. Now I wonder, should I brew another lot just after lunch, or will that be too much? What say you? Is it even possible to have too much coffee? :java::java::java::java::java:
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
IMHO none. Modulating one's brain activity with substances instead of sheer will sounds compelling at first, but there's the danger of addiction (which caffeine exhibits). Caffeine has shown to increase the number of melatonine receptors (meaning increasing the overall tirendness unless countered with more caffeine), caffeine has shown to lower the amount of grey matter (this effect proven to be reversible though) and consuming something brain-changing and addiction-fueling regularly is IMHO not worth it. I'm not a huge fan of hops tea for falling-asleep-purposes either. Yes, it works, it's got way less side-effects than commercially available pills, but it's still something the brain can get used to (so failing to deal with lack of) when taken regularly. Now when it comes to recreational substance use (as opposed to goal-oriented substance use), I do love myself a beer or two (or a couple more) every now and then. On the other hand, in Bavaria, Germany, beer is basically a basic food. Not to say I've not seen alcohol addiction second-hand...
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I have been drinking 2 to 3 mugs (substantial mugs - 0.3 liters) of my favorite brew in the early morning to jump start my day. But lately I find that the good effect starts to wear off after 3 to 4 hours. Now I wonder, should I brew another lot just after lunch, or will that be too much? What say you? Is it even possible to have too much coffee? :java::java::java::java::java:
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
That depends what fear you the most. Latest large(r) scale experiments say it is good against heart attack (not surprising, the heart is like a shark, have to go to stay alive). However, it is bad for memory. It decreases gray matter mass in the brain. The effect is reversible by leaving caffeine for about ten days. So it is an engineering question, what is the target of your optimization? Long life, or effectve memory of those damn variables.