How much coffee does one man need?
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Chris Maunder wrote:
Interestingly, wine and spirits have a diuretic effect but beer, evidently, doesn't.
I have made it a habit to go on my bathroom scale every morning - still surprised how much my body weight jumps up and down. It is not that I gain 1.5 to 2 kg of fat from one day to the other, and loose it over the next day or two; it is the amount of liquids in my body. There is no doubt: My average body weight the mornings after I enjoyed a sixpack the night before is significantly lower (probably around 1 kg, if I had taken more detail notes) than mornings when I drank only water or tea the previous night. This is in spite of the fact that a sixpack adds three liters of liquid, 3 kg of weight, to my body. I cannot claim this to be 'scientific' and peer reviewed observations. It may just be a correlation(*), not a cause/effect. But in my case, there is definitely a correlation. (*) Correlation vs. cause/effect: - Dad, do you really want to wear those shoes? - Why not? I like to dress up a little when I go out with my buddies. - But every time you wear those shoes, you have a headache the next morning...
As a person on dialysis (my kidneys don’t work so I hardly pee at all) it is normal to gain 2 to 3 kg between treatments ( dialysis Mon Wed Fri). Liquids are heavy. We loose liquids thru respiration, perspiration and peeing. Day to day weight variations are normal and also strongly influenced but sodium intake. I recall one weight loss program citing “a pound a pickle” due to the high sodium content of a pickle. I find your unscientific observation fascinating. Our bodies are amazing machines.
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I have been drinking 2 to 3 mugs (substantial mugs - 0.3 liters) of my favorite brew in the early morning to jump start my day. But lately I find that the good effect starts to wear off after 3 to 4 hours. Now I wonder, should I brew another lot just after lunch, or will that be too much? What say you? Is it even possible to have too much coffee? :java::java::java::java::java:
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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I have been drinking 2 to 3 mugs (substantial mugs - 0.3 liters) of my favorite brew in the early morning to jump start my day. But lately I find that the good effect starts to wear off after 3 to 4 hours. Now I wonder, should I brew another lot just after lunch, or will that be too much? What say you? Is it even possible to have too much coffee? :java::java::java::java::java:
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
Coffee is like cocaine: you're always chasing that first high!
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I have been drinking 2 to 3 mugs (substantial mugs - 0.3 liters) of my favorite brew in the early morning to jump start my day. But lately I find that the good effect starts to wear off after 3 to 4 hours. Now I wonder, should I brew another lot just after lunch, or will that be too much? What say you? Is it even possible to have too much coffee? :java::java::java::java::java:
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
every few years I'll cycle myself off of caffeine. when I really need it one cup of coffee usually does a great job, unfortunately coffee/caffeine is a diminishing returns type of thing for me, as it takes more and more to keep me going, then have a hard time sleeping. I have a 1.5L percolator in my office and at the height of usage it would be gone before noon, and always debated whether to make a second pot. currently I'm back down to one cup of green tea in the morning, for the habit of drinking something warm in the morning.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
Coffee dehydrates the body
The net effect of a cup of coffee is still hydration (the diuretic effect is more than outweighed by the fluid you're taking in) Interestingly, wine and spirits have a diuretic effect but beer, evidently, doesn't.
cheers Chris Maunder
Chris Maunder wrote:
The net effect of a cup of coffee is still hydration (the diuretic effect is more than outweighed by the fluid you're taking in)
I believe you; but monday the doc said I should drink less coffee, among other things. I do two liter per day. Been doin so for years.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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I have been drinking 2 to 3 mugs (substantial mugs - 0.3 liters) of my favorite brew in the early morning to jump start my day. But lately I find that the good effect starts to wear off after 3 to 4 hours. Now I wonder, should I brew another lot just after lunch, or will that be too much? What say you? Is it even possible to have too much coffee? :java::java::java::java::java:
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
I drink two 12oz cups of coffee in the morning and one cup early afternoon. That is my ideal "dose" for optimal productivity!
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I have been drinking 2 to 3 mugs (substantial mugs - 0.3 liters) of my favorite brew in the early morning to jump start my day. But lately I find that the good effect starts to wear off after 3 to 4 hours. Now I wonder, should I brew another lot just after lunch, or will that be too much? What say you? Is it even possible to have too much coffee? :java::java::java::java::java:
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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I have been drinking 2 to 3 mugs (substantial mugs - 0.3 liters) of my favorite brew in the early morning to jump start my day. But lately I find that the good effect starts to wear off after 3 to 4 hours. Now I wonder, should I brew another lot just after lunch, or will that be too much? What say you? Is it even possible to have too much coffee? :java::java::java::java::java:
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
This man uses one Yeti mug in the morning, one Yeti mug after lunch, and a 5 Hour Energy around 3 PM. I do not do decaffeinated coffee, as I have yet to discover the point.
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Chris Maunder wrote:
The net effect of a cup of coffee is still hydration (the diuretic effect is more than outweighed by the fluid you're taking in)
I believe you; but monday the doc said I should drink less coffee, among other things. I do two liter per day. Been doin so for years.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
I'm talking merely about fluids, not caffeine intake. 2L? If it's decent coffee that's a fair bit of caffeine!
cheers Chris Maunder
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This man uses one Yeti mug in the morning, one Yeti mug after lunch, and a 5 Hour Energy around 3 PM. I do not do decaffeinated coffee, as I have yet to discover the point.
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The health effect very much depend on how you brew the coffee. The worst alternative is boiling it the traditional way, with the coffee grounds boiling with the water. Almost as bad is boiling clear water, pull it aside and add the coffee. Espresso should not be enjoyed in large quanta either. The modern style with pods are in the middle between, but the most healthy, by far, is the filter coffee, using a paper filter. If you make your coffee using a paper filter, you probably can allow yourself another mug for lunch. If you boil the coffee grounds for a few minutes, medicals suggest that you keep the consumption down. (I knew one lady who seriously claimed that coffee had no taste unless boiled for at least five minutes... In modern times, she is the only one, and certainly only woman, I know to like it that way. Two generations ago, fishermen and lumberjacks used to add more water to the old grounds in the pot, adding grounds when the coffee getting too weak. They didn't clean out the pot until it was so full of grounds that there was no room for water, maybe once a week.) My experience with both coffee and tea (strong, and in huge amounts) is that your body gradually becomes immune to the stimulating effect of caffeine. For many years, I have had strong coffee (or tea) late at night, and fallen asleep immediately when going to bed. But I discovered that me getting drowsy after a few hours of work rather was due to dehydration. Nowadays, I can drink at least a liter of water through a typical day, and that keeps the drowsiness away.
To remove any residual contaminants I insist on boiling my organic non-chlorinated paper filters for later use in a batch for five minutes and dry in the oven at low heat. Boiling longer as I did recently for no good reason seems to reduce the filtration capacity as this batch resulted in quick pour throughs and in less than the usual smoothing of the cheap instant coffee I utilize. Also here is a recent article stating that filtration has health benefits Drinking Filtered Coffee is Safer Than Total Abstinence As it Reduces Risk of Death From Any Cause: Study | Science Times[^] - Cheerio and chug-a-lug
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I have been drinking 2 to 3 mugs (substantial mugs - 0.3 liters) of my favorite brew in the early morning to jump start my day. But lately I find that the good effect starts to wear off after 3 to 4 hours. Now I wonder, should I brew another lot just after lunch, or will that be too much? What say you? Is it even possible to have too much coffee? :java::java::java::java::java:
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
Well, it's consumed for the caffeine it contains. Like many other drugs taken for their pleasurable effects, the human body becomes accustomed to continued, regular use and as a consequence, it reacts to this external substance to a decreasing degree. My coffee cup is 20 oz. I make em white with two.. with a desert spoon. I drink them when I feel like it. Sometimes I've had 4 by 10 am, other times wont have one for a day or two. Been about 12 hours since I've had a cup at the moment. Of course it's possible to have too much coffee. 75 to 100 cups for the average 70kg person represents the LD50 dose of caffeine in humans, which is 150-200 mg per kg of body mass. As little as 57mg per kilo of body mas has been reported as causing death.
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I have been drinking 2 to 3 mugs (substantial mugs - 0.3 liters) of my favorite brew in the early morning to jump start my day. But lately I find that the good effect starts to wear off after 3 to 4 hours. Now I wonder, should I brew another lot just after lunch, or will that be too much? What say you? Is it even possible to have too much coffee? :java::java::java::java::java:
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
For me, any amount of coffee is too much. Never could tolerate the flavor. I generally get by with, like, zero to one cans of Coke per day. Not a huge caffeine consumer.