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  • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

    What's wrong with returning from inside an if? The rule about only returning at the end of a function leads to convoluted code where a flag is repeatedly used to bypass stuff just to reach the end of the function. Pure dross.

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    Rick York
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    If you have allocated anything that is not an automatic object that can be risky. I have dealt with a few customers who had explicit code-style prohibitions against multiple return statements. Given the rest of the nonsense we had to deal with from them that was pretty much ignored. I hated those SFBs so much I refuse to buy any of their products ever again. To give a clue, they used to be referred to as a purveyor of expensive ink.

    "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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    • C Chris Maunder

      Bonus points to JSOP! I actually like having two exit points at most 1st at the very top if your initial sanity checks on input parameters fail. Get that out of the qay early 2nd at the very end of the routine.

      cheers Chris Maunder

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      Rick York
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      #29

      I take a similar approach but I don't limit myself to just one return there. I let each sanity check have its own return statement because I find easier to deal with when debugging. Following the input sanitization I try to not have any returns unless a value is returned and then only at the bottom.

      "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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      • N NotTodayYo

        Greg Utas wrote:

        The rule about only returning at the end of a function leads to convoluted code

        As opposed to it not being clear when and where something can be returned.

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        Greg Utas
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        #30

        It's quite clear, right in the return statement. If the only return is at the end of the function, you have to find all the places that can set the returned value, and figure out whether that value survives to the end of the function or gets updated.

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        • N Nelek

          If the return is within an "check initialized stuff" at the beginning... nothing. If there are 3 or more returns... it might get so confusing / convoluted as having only one at the end.

          M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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          Greg Utas
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          #31

          Sure, but that's just convoluted code. Prolonging the confusion by also having to reach the end of the function is only going to make things worse.

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          • R Rick York

            If you have allocated anything that is not an automatic object that can be risky. I have dealt with a few customers who had explicit code-style prohibitions against multiple return statements. Given the rest of the nonsense we had to deal with from them that was pretty much ignored. I hated those SFBs so much I refuse to buy any of their products ever again. To give a clue, they used to be referred to as a purveyor of expensive ink.

            "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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            Greg Utas
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            #32

            Good point about automatic objects. Fortunately, C++ now has unique_ptr, but some languages might not have an equivalent.

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            <em>The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.</em></p>

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            • R Rick York

              I take a similar approach but I don't limit myself to just one return there. I let each sanity check have its own return statement because I find easier to deal with when debugging. Following the input sanitization I try to not have any returns unless a value is returned and then only at the bottom.

              "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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              Chris Maunder
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              Rick York wrote:

              I let each sanity check have its own return statement

              Full disclosure: I do the same if it makes it cumbersome / ugly otherwise. But one test/return section at the top.

              cheers Chris Maunder

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              • N NotTodayYo

                Chris Maunder wrote:

                Your rewrite is how it should be done.

                Why? It's not as clear as to what the code will do. Plus, returning from inside an if is bad form.

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                Lorenzo Bertolino
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                #34

                Sure, in a function that is 1000 lines long, it isn't clear. In one that fits on the screen is quite obvious. But I'd argue that a function that long isn't clear either way. :-D

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                • C Chris Maunder

                  if (condition)
                  {
                  return;
                  }
                  else
                  {
                  // Do something else
                  }

                  cheers Chris Maunder

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                  rob tillaart
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                  #35

                  It all depends on which measuring stick is used... - # exits in a function - # lines of code - # lines of comments - # paths in the code - readability, - maintainability, modifiability - only use positive condition tests (! using ! and certainly ! !!) And of course if you (think you) are paid by lines of code produced there are many other "solutions"

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                  • C Chris Maunder

                    if (condition)
                    {
                    return;
                    }
                    else
                    {
                    // Do something else
                    }

                    cheers Chris Maunder

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                    User 14060113
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                    #36

                    Visual Studio would show you that the else branch in unnecessary.

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                    • C Chris Maunder

                      if (condition)
                      {
                      return;
                      }
                      else
                      {
                      // Do something else
                      }

                      cheers Chris Maunder

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                      Fueled By Decaff
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                      #37

                      Hmm, to trying to please people who want a single exit point and clear intent when processing is completed:

                      if (condition)
                      {
                      goto returnStatement;
                      }
                      // Do something else

                      :returnStatement

                      return;

                      X| :laugh: X|

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                      • C Chris Maunder

                        if (condition)
                        {
                        return;
                        }
                        else
                        {
                        // Do something else
                        }

                        cheers Chris Maunder

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                        Wizard of Sleeves
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                        #38

                        My career best:

                        function doNothing(something) {
                        return something;
                        }

                        Nothing succeeds like a budgie without teeth.

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                        • C Chris Maunder

                          if (condition)
                          {
                          return;
                          }
                          else
                          {
                          // Do something else
                          }

                          cheers Chris Maunder

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                          JohaViss61
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                          #39

                          Just to annoy everyone :laugh:

                          switch (condition)
                          {
                          case true: return;

                          default: // do something else
                          }

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                          • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                            I believe to be totally proper it should be;

                            if ( !condition )
                            {
                            // Do something else
                            return;
                            }

                            return ;

                            The less you need, the more you have. JaxCoder.com

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                            BryanFazekas
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                            What is the value of the redundant return statement inside the braces? One of my first jobs was processing in a 16K space, and the data was 12K per record. We coded very concisely as we had no room for extraneous code. Today's compilers are far more efficient, but making the processing straightforward and eliminating redundant code is still a good idea.

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                            • B BryanFazekas

                              What is the value of the redundant return statement inside the braces? One of my first jobs was processing in a 16K space, and the data was 12K per record. We coded very concisely as we had no room for extraneous code. Today's compilers are far more efficient, but making the processing straightforward and eliminating redundant code is still a good idea.

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                              Mike Hankey
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #41

                              I'm retired but I work a lot with embedded systems that have small memory spaces so every byte counts. The redundant return statements where a joke...to see how screwed up we could make it!

                              The less you need, the more you have. JaxCoder.com

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                              • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                                I'm retired but I work a lot with embedded systems that have small memory spaces so every byte counts. The redundant return statements where a joke...to see how screwed up we could make it!

                                The less you need, the more you have. JaxCoder.com

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                                BryanFazekas
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                                #42

                                Mike, you're not even close to how screwed up someone could make this! :laugh: I worked with a guy who was intent on cover EVERY possibility. His program executed 700 lines of code when tabbing between fields. If anyone actually clicked something, it go ugly ....

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                                  Mike, you're not even close to how screwed up someone could make this! :laugh: I worked with a guy who was intent on cover EVERY possibility. His program executed 700 lines of code when tabbing between fields. If anyone actually clicked something, it go ugly ....

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                                  Mike Hankey
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #43

                                  I've no doubt that it could be more screwed up and I've seen it when I was getting payed to program. I wonder how some people get into the field and even more how they stay.

                                  The less you need, the more you have. JaxCoder.com

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                                  • C Chris Maunder

                                    if (condition)
                                    {
                                    return;
                                    }
                                    else
                                    {
                                    // Do something else
                                    }

                                    cheers Chris Maunder

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                                    BernardIE5317
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                                    if(the_code_below_can_not_be_executed) return;
                                    // now do what must be done

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                                    • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                                      I've no doubt that it could be more screwed up and I've seen it when I was getting payed to program. I wonder how some people get into the field and even more how they stay.

                                      The less you need, the more you have. JaxCoder.com

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                                      BryanFazekas
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                                      #45

                                      Yeah, the lack of ability in some cases is amazing, and not in a good way. My boss tells a story of a former employee who made cut-n-paste an art form. Modern art form. This person appears to have never written a line of code -- everything was copied from other programs and web sites, and this person could not understand why the program would not work. In another situation I taught a COBOL programmer with 5 years experience how to program. I am not a COBOL programmer and have never compiled a single line. This is not picking on COBOL -- this guy did not understand program flow. OTOH, he was fantastic at phone support, which is where he should have been.

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                                      • F Fueled By Decaff

                                        Hmm, to trying to please people who want a single exit point and clear intent when processing is completed:

                                        if (condition)
                                        {
                                        goto returnStatement;
                                        }
                                        // Do something else

                                        :returnStatement

                                        return;

                                        X| :laugh: X|

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                                        Chris Maunder
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #46

                                        That's so, so wrong on so many levels...

                                        cheers Chris Maunder

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                                        • C Chris Maunder

                                          if (condition)
                                          {
                                          return;
                                          }
                                          else
                                          {
                                          // Do something else
                                          }

                                          cheers Chris Maunder

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                                          obermd
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                                          #47

                                          Looks like a copy/paste error where the code wasn't cleaned up after the paste.

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