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New DDR5 technology much faster than DDR4 or other DDR5 options

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  • C Cp Coder

    New superfast DDR5 memory technology from Samsung. Samsung's new DDR5 memory more than doubles the speed of DDR4[^]

    Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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    Lost User
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    A little odd that they're claiming "7,200Mbps", which is not fast at all (with typical DDR4 sticks hitting 19200MB/s which is over 20 times as much). It makes sense if they meant MT/s (counting transfers, not bits), then it really is over twice typical DDR4 speeds.

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    • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

      Wow and 512GB...who would ever need that much memory? :)

      The less you need, the more you have. JaxCoder.com

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      Daniel Pfeffer
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      Mike Hankey wrote:

      512GB

      The new 640KB? :)

      Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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        Mike Hankey wrote:

        512GB

        The new 640KB? :)

        Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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        Mike Hankey
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        Yep that's exactly what I was thinking!

        The less you need, the more you have. JaxCoder.com

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        • C Cp Coder

          New superfast DDR5 memory technology from Samsung. Samsung's new DDR5 memory more than doubles the speed of DDR4[^]

          Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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          W Balboos GHB
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          So - how does this affect the box I'm remoting in from it at this very moment - bulging with 8GB of DDR2 ?

          Ravings en masse^

          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

          "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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          • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

            Wow and 512GB...who would ever need that much memory? :)

            The less you need, the more you have. JaxCoder.com

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            Mike Hankey wrote:

            who would ever need that much memory?

            Microsoft Word? :laugh:

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              Mike Hankey wrote:

              who would ever need that much memory?

              Microsoft Word? :laugh:

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              Mike Hankey
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              Richard MacCutchan wrote:

              Microsoft Word NotePad?

              FTFY

              The less you need, the more you have. JaxCoder.com

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                So - how does this affect the box I'm remoting in from it at this very moment - bulging with 8GB of DDR2 ?

                Ravings en masse^

                "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                theoldfool
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                You are just as fast if you keep the rubber bands wound up.

                If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.

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                • L Lost User

                  A little odd that they're claiming "7,200Mbps", which is not fast at all (with typical DDR4 sticks hitting 19200MB/s which is over 20 times as much). It makes sense if they meant MT/s (counting transfers, not bits), then it really is over twice typical DDR4 speeds.

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                  Dan Neely
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                  or they're talking about per chip speed vs per dimm or maybe mobile vs desktop channel bandwidth (16 vs 64[*] bits wide), I don't trust mass market tech to get anything right. * 2x32 for a single DDR5 dimm if you're feeling obnoxiously pedantic.

                  Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                  • W W Balboos GHB

                    So - how does this affect the box I'm remoting in from it at this very moment - bulging with 8GB of DDR2 ?

                    Ravings en masse^

                    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                    Dan Neely
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                    it means the kids with shiney new boxes are going to point and laugh even harder. 👉 W∴ Balboos, GHB :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

                    Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                    • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                      Wow and 512GB...who would ever need that much memory? :)

                      The less you need, the more you have. JaxCoder.com

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                      With 64GB, I don't feel that even my old i7-4800K is too slow to run multiple VMs simultaneously; rather, I always find myself limited by RAM/disk/network. With 512GB, I suppose I could then run so many VMs that the CPU would finally start to get too slow to be practical.

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                        With 64GB, I don't feel that even my old i7-4800K is too slow to run multiple VMs simultaneously; rather, I always find myself limited by RAM/disk/network. With 512GB, I suppose I could then run so many VMs that the CPU would finally start to get too slow to be practical.

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                        I thought when I upgraded my machine to 32GB that I would finally have enough but like you say if you start running VMs they eat it up quick. Plus the more memory you have the more the applications that you run use. (Moore's law or something?) I've got an older processor but it's still relevant as there hasn't been a lot of progress in that are for some time, except for the number of cores.

                        The less you need, the more you have. JaxCoder.com

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                          So - how does this affect the box I'm remoting in from it at this very moment - bulging with 8GB of DDR2 ?

                          Ravings en masse^

                          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                          "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                          Tim Yen
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                          You should burn Welsh coal in that machine and it will go faster, thats what the Fat controller says.

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                            New superfast DDR5 memory technology from Samsung. Samsung's new DDR5 memory more than doubles the speed of DDR4[^]

                            Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                            honey the codewitch
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                            Samsung announced a 512GB DDR5 module that utilizes HKMG technology.

                            512GB? of DDR5?? Yes plz.

                            Real programmers use butterflies

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                              New superfast DDR5 memory technology from Samsung. Samsung's new DDR5 memory more than doubles the speed of DDR4[^]

                              Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                              Stepan Hakobyan
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                              My gaming PC needs a faster RAM. But more then that, it needs a better GPU :(

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                                You should burn Welsh coal in that machine and it will go faster, thats what the Fat controller says.

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                                W Balboos GHB
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                                Well - it came with a video card for HDMI and plugs right into a 55" 'monitor'. It's doing rather well in its later years - and what would it do if it had more than two cores @3GHz? For now, it just has to settle with giving orders that are obediently obeyed by a Xeon with 32GB RAM @3.5 GHz. What have you got in your wallet ?

                                Ravings en masse^

                                "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                                  Richard MacCutchan wrote:

                                  Microsoft Word NotePad?

                                  FTFY

                                  The less you need, the more you have. JaxCoder.com

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                                  matblue25
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                                  Chrome

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                                  • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                                    Wow and 512GB...who would ever need that much memory? :)

                                    The less you need, the more you have. JaxCoder.com

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                                    James Lonero
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                                    Scientific application. I work with chemists that create 10s of GB sized files, then want to massage it every which say, including graphing and tables. It would be much quicker to keep all that data in memory.

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                                    • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                                      I thought when I upgraded my machine to 32GB that I would finally have enough but like you say if you start running VMs they eat it up quick. Plus the more memory you have the more the applications that you run use. (Moore's law or something?) I've got an older processor but it's still relevant as there hasn't been a lot of progress in that are for some time, except for the number of cores.

                                      The less you need, the more you have. JaxCoder.com

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                                      James Lonero
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                                      There are better processors out there than Intel. Motorola 68000 was one of them. I haven't heard if they came out with a 64 bit processor.

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                                      • D Daniel Pfeffer

                                        Mike Hankey wrote:

                                        512GB

                                        The new 640KB? :)

                                        Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                                        Kirk 10389821
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                                        So, I always thought after the 640K debacle. And PART of that was ISOLATING the memory above it to 1MB for the O/S. And I thought... How stupid, you just created a hole in memory when we go above that. And we did! But now, windows 10 has a feature for a restore partition on our hard drives. Instead of allocating it and forcibly leaving space BEFORE the drive partition we would like to expand. THEY, OF COURSE, put it at the end of the disk. So, when you go to upgrade the drive, you have to play Partition Games, to move the partition to the end of the disk and expand the one you need more space on. Is it me... Or do we KEEP CREATING the same problems, over and over?

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                                          So, I always thought after the 640K debacle. And PART of that was ISOLATING the memory above it to 1MB for the O/S. And I thought... How stupid, you just created a hole in memory when we go above that. And we did! But now, windows 10 has a feature for a restore partition on our hard drives. Instead of allocating it and forcibly leaving space BEFORE the drive partition we would like to expand. THEY, OF COURSE, put it at the end of the disk. So, when you go to upgrade the drive, you have to play Partition Games, to move the partition to the end of the disk and expand the one you need more space on. Is it me... Or do we KEEP CREATING the same problems, over and over?

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                                          Daniel Pfeffer
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                                          Kirk 10389821 wrote:

                                          Is it me... Or do we KEEP CREATING the same problems, over and over?

                                          It's not just you. There are at least two causes for this: 1. Companies prefer to hire young engineers out of a false perception that they are (a) cheaper and (b) have more "commitment". 2. Said engineers have learnt all the latest stuff in university or college. They all know what is supposed to work. What they haven't internalised is the difference between theory and practice - not all ideas that work in theory necessarily work in practice.

                                          Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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