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    W Balboos GHB
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    Ford plans to sell 100,000 hands-free driving vehicles by the end of the first year.[^] and that year is starting this year. I think there was a movie named for this, once: "Apocalypse Now" .

    Ravings en masse^

    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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      Ford plans to sell 100,000 hands-free driving vehicles by the end of the first year.[^] and that year is starting this year. I think there was a movie named for this, once: "Apocalypse Now" .

      Ravings en masse^

      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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      Slacker007
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      can't wait to see the car-nage. :thumbsup:

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        can't wait to see the car-nage. :thumbsup:

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        OriginalGriff
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        It'll be a real cluster-truck!

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          can't wait to see the car-nage. :thumbsup:

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          W Balboos GHB
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          It's truckin' scary !

          Ravings en masse^

          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

          "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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            Ford plans to sell 100,000 hands-free driving vehicles by the end of the first year.[^] and that year is starting this year. I think there was a movie named for this, once: "Apocalypse Now" .

            Ravings en masse^

            "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

            "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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            CPallini
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            Much better than brain-free car drivers you find here.

            "In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?" -- Rigoletto

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              Much better than brain-free car drivers you find here.

              "In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?" -- Rigoletto

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              RickZeeland
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              The wait is for the update "Sicilian drive mode" :-\

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                Much better than brain-free car drivers you find here.

                "In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?" -- Rigoletto

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                W Balboos GHB
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                You do realize that not only will both "features" coincide but they will selectively coincide. As any good optimistic cynic will tell you - as bad as things are, at least they're not worse - yet.

                Ravings en masse^

                "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                • W W Balboos GHB

                  Ford plans to sell 100,000 hands-free driving vehicles by the end of the first year.[^] and that year is starting this year. I think there was a movie named for this, once: "Apocalypse Now" .

                  Ravings en masse^

                  "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                  "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                  theoldfool
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                  Have to process a service pack to drive slowly in the left lane, with the right turn signal blinking if they want to sell them here.

                  If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.

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                    Ford plans to sell 100,000 hands-free driving vehicles by the end of the first year.[^] and that year is starting this year. I think there was a movie named for this, once: "Apocalypse Now" .

                    Ravings en masse^

                    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                    Maximilien
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                    As much as I would like to have a hand-free car society, it won't be safe until all cars are hand-free.

                    I'd rather be phishing!

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                    • W W Balboos GHB

                      Ford plans to sell 100,000 hands-free driving vehicles by the end of the first year.[^] and that year is starting this year. I think there was a movie named for this, once: "Apocalypse Now" .

                      Ravings en masse^

                      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                      Ron Anders
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                      Why on earth is this "thing" being pushed as a "thing"?

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                        Ford plans to sell 100,000 hands-free driving vehicles by the end of the first year.[^] and that year is starting this year. I think there was a movie named for this, once: "Apocalypse Now" .

                        Ravings en masse^

                        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                        musefan
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                        Makes me wonder how this will effect insurance rates. I mean not anytime soon, but if/when we get to the point of it being the norm, and I mean fully-automated driving. Surely they could no longer justify your rates based on age/gender/history/etc. anymore? Would we even need the "accident" aspect of the insurance at all? (still potential for theft and roadside damage I guess). No doubt the insurance companies will suss out how to keep us paying full whack though.

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                          Makes me wonder how this will effect insurance rates. I mean not anytime soon, but if/when we get to the point of it being the norm, and I mean fully-automated driving. Surely they could no longer justify your rates based on age/gender/history/etc. anymore? Would we even need the "accident" aspect of the insurance at all? (still potential for theft and roadside damage I guess). No doubt the insurance companies will suss out how to keep us paying full whack though.

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                          W Balboos GHB
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                          The more "obvious" point with respect to insurance and liability. If the vehicle crashes, is the owner/driver responsible or Ford and it's software?

                          Ravings en masse^

                          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                          "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                            You do realize that not only will both "features" coincide but they will selectively coincide. As any good optimistic cynic will tell you - as bad as things are, at least they're not worse - yet.

                            Ravings en masse^

                            "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                            "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                            CPallini
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                            As a matter of fact, the brain-free drivers think their smarts are already hands-free driving vehicles. :-D

                            "In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?" -- Rigoletto

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                              As a matter of fact, the brain-free drivers think their smarts are already hands-free driving vehicles. :-D

                              "In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?" -- Rigoletto

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                              W Balboos GHB
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                              Well - they can think and do as they please - it's their road, isn't it?

                              Ravings en masse^

                              "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                              "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                Ford plans to sell 100,000 hands-free driving vehicles by the end of the first year.[^] and that year is starting this year. I think there was a movie named for this, once: "Apocalypse Now" .

                                Ravings en masse^

                                "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                obermd
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                                Will their turn signals work?

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                                  Makes me wonder how this will effect insurance rates. I mean not anytime soon, but if/when we get to the point of it being the norm, and I mean fully-automated driving. Surely they could no longer justify your rates based on age/gender/history/etc. anymore? Would we even need the "accident" aspect of the insurance at all? (still potential for theft and roadside damage I guess). No doubt the insurance companies will suss out how to keep us paying full whack though.

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                                  Well ... modern cars are already getting pretty good at avoiding accidents: radar braking, do-it-themselves swerving, and so on. So in theory, insurance for a new well specced car should already be less than an older one ... hahahahaha ...

                                  "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

                                  "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                                  "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                                    The more "obvious" point with respect to insurance and liability. If the vehicle crashes, is the owner/driver responsible or Ford and it's software?

                                    Ravings en masse^

                                    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                    I don't think it will matter much. The responsibility doesn't really affect the claim. I expect one could apply the same "which owner gets the bill" logic as they do now for the most part. Who pulled out the junction, who didn't break in time, etc. The other interesting aspect is liability from the manufacturer to the owner in the event of injury, and furthermore what the scumbags of the world will try to do in order to cash-in on that liability. How does one trick the car into crashing without there being any proof it was tampered with? :suss:

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                                      Will their turn signals work?

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                                      OriginalGriff
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                                      Depends - the world is now in the twelfth year of the BMW Blinker Fluid Shortage, with no signs of that ending any time this decade.

                                      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

                                      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                                      "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                                        I don't think it will matter much. The responsibility doesn't really affect the claim. I expect one could apply the same "which owner gets the bill" logic as they do now for the most part. Who pulled out the junction, who didn't break in time, etc. The other interesting aspect is liability from the manufacturer to the owner in the event of injury, and furthermore what the scumbags of the world will try to do in order to cash-in on that liability. How does one trick the car into crashing without there being any proof it was tampered with? :suss:

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                                        W Balboos GHB
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                                        musefan wrote:

                                        How does one trick the car into crashing without there being any proof it was tampered with? :suss:

                                        Or, conversely, how does the manufacturer try to put blame for (known) software defects on the driver? (Not that could ever happen, of course).

                                        Ravings en masse^

                                        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                        • W W Balboos GHB

                                          Ford plans to sell 100,000 hands-free driving vehicles by the end of the first year.[^] and that year is starting this year. I think there was a movie named for this, once: "Apocalypse Now" .

                                          Ravings en masse^

                                          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                          "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                          SeanChupas
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                                          I've been driving hands-free for over 20 years. This is nothing new. ;) It is interesting to me that society is so afraid to embrace self-driving cars even though if you take one second to stop and think about it, the roads will be many times safer with a computer driving the car rather than a human. But people resist change.

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