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Here's an interesting map for those who aren't sure if they should have the vaccine

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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    Coronavirus (COVID-19) in the UK[^] It's a rolling 7-day "new cases" map of the UK - slide the date and see what happens after vaccinations started at the beginning of the year (remember that it started small for logistical reasons) Want to get back to "normal"? Get vaccinated. The data is pretty clear ...

    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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    Slacker007
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    preaching to the choir, aren't you?

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    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

      Coronavirus (COVID-19) in the UK[^] It's a rolling 7-day "new cases" map of the UK - slide the date and see what happens after vaccinations started at the beginning of the year (remember that it started small for logistical reasons) Want to get back to "normal"? Get vaccinated. The data is pretty clear ...

      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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      markrlondon
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      Interesting. Thanks for the link. My immediate locale is "suppressed" so (if the blurb is correct) the case count is too low to count without identifying individuals, although perhaps oddly we're right next door (i.e. a few hundred yards) to a "10-49" and a "50-99" area. I very strongly suggest there are a lot of unreported, minor-symptom cases.

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      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

        Coronavirus (COVID-19) in the UK[^] It's a rolling 7-day "new cases" map of the UK - slide the date and see what happens after vaccinations started at the beginning of the year (remember that it started small for logistical reasons) Want to get back to "normal"? Get vaccinated. The data is pretty clear ...

        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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        W Balboos GHB
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        No chart handy but I get a report from the Governor's office (NY State) each day and the number of cases has headed down as the vaccine density has increased significantly. The seven day average (entire state) as of today is 2.09% of those tested. Only a couple of weeks ago it was about 3.5% . In chemical kinetics (an old field of mine) it would be called a threshold effect. This was similarly observed in Infrared Laser Photochemistry (a multiphoton process). It gives me some faith that herd immunity will indeed be possible:   if not from enough of the population being vaccinated than because the idiots who didn't died off.

        Ravings en masse^

        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

          Coronavirus (COVID-19) in the UK[^] It's a rolling 7-day "new cases" map of the UK - slide the date and see what happens after vaccinations started at the beginning of the year (remember that it started small for logistical reasons) Want to get back to "normal"? Get vaccinated. The data is pretty clear ...

          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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          Thornik
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          Vaccine is the most idiotic step you can do AFTER flu (yes, COVID is a flu!) came into country - TOO LATE, too useless.

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            Vaccine is the most idiotic step you can do AFTER flu (yes, COVID is a flu!) came into country - TOO LATE, too useless.

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            musefan
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            What about all the people who haven't had COVID yet? You seem to be speaking with the assumption that every person has already had it before.

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            • T Thornik

              Vaccine is the most idiotic step you can do AFTER flu (yes, COVID is a flu!) came into country - TOO LATE, too useless.

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              Forogar
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              So you are saying you are an idiot if you get the vaccine after getting the flu. Since the flu epidemic in the US has reduced by 98% then this doesn't apply to most people, so what you are actually saying, logically is get the vaccine, yay! :wtf:

              - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                preaching to the choir, aren't you?

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                OriginalGriff
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                Not all of use ate singing from the same song sheet ... :sigh: The Lounge[^]

                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                • T Thornik

                  Vaccine is the most idiotic step you can do AFTER flu (yes, COVID is a flu!) came into country - TOO LATE, too useless.

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                  CHill60
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                  the most idiotic step you can do AFTER flu

                  ... unless of course you are taking the vaccine to prevent yourself from becoming seriously ill from catching it again (you can catch flu more than once so why not Covid-19) Or to avoid catching one of the new variants ... Or if you are one of the millions of people in any particular country who hasn't caught it ... yet

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                  • T Thornik

                    Vaccine is the most idiotic step you can do AFTER flu (yes, COVID is a flu!) came into country - TOO LATE, too useless.

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                    W Balboos GHB
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                    Living in a country that pretended (and it seems still pretends) it's nothing special at all. Just some sort of sniffle? Those people sick and dying are just faking it? I'll just make a mental note:   we've another troll in the lounge.

                    Ravings en masse^

                    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                    • W W Balboos GHB

                      No chart handy but I get a report from the Governor's office (NY State) each day and the number of cases has headed down as the vaccine density has increased significantly. The seven day average (entire state) as of today is 2.09% of those tested. Only a couple of weeks ago it was about 3.5% . In chemical kinetics (an old field of mine) it would be called a threshold effect. This was similarly observed in Infrared Laser Photochemistry (a multiphoton process). It gives me some faith that herd immunity will indeed be possible:   if not from enough of the population being vaccinated than because the idiots who didn't died off.

                      Ravings en masse^

                      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                      W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote:

                      It gives me some faith that herd immunity will indeed be possible:   if not from enough of the population being vaccinated than because the idiots who didn't died off.

                      Did you ever read The Gods of the Copybook Headings by Rudyard Kipling? The problem is that the idiots aren't dying off fast enough. Au contraire, they appear to be spreading further and wider. Eventually they will exceed the carrying capacity of the productive people, and civilization will collapse.

                      Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                        W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote:

                        It gives me some faith that herd immunity will indeed be possible:   if not from enough of the population being vaccinated than because the idiots who didn't died off.

                        Did you ever read The Gods of the Copybook Headings by Rudyard Kipling? The problem is that the idiots aren't dying off fast enough. Au contraire, they appear to be spreading further and wider. Eventually they will exceed the carrying capacity of the productive people, and civilization will collapse.

                        Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                        W Balboos GHB
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                        It depends - to paraphrase the folks down-under: "Put a couple more dopes on the barbie".* Problem solved ? (Admission: idea not dissimilar to Jonathan Swift's solution to the Irish Potato Famine[^]

                        Ravings en masse^

                        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                          W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote:

                          It gives me some faith that herd immunity will indeed be possible:   if not from enough of the population being vaccinated than because the idiots who didn't died off.

                          Did you ever read The Gods of the Copybook Headings by Rudyard Kipling? The problem is that the idiots aren't dying off fast enough. Au contraire, they appear to be spreading further and wider. Eventually they will exceed the carrying capacity of the productive people, and civilization will collapse.

                          Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                          honey the codewitch
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                          The trouble is that wisdom is finite, but stupidity is a renewable resource. Or at least it's a problem for now, until we can figure out a way to generate power with it.

                          Real programmers use butterflies

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                          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                            Coronavirus (COVID-19) in the UK[^] It's a rolling 7-day "new cases" map of the UK - slide the date and see what happens after vaccinations started at the beginning of the year (remember that it started small for logistical reasons) Want to get back to "normal"? Get vaccinated. The data is pretty clear ...

                            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                            obermd
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                            Here in Colorado, we had the usual fear monger in the Governor's office screaming about a new, more dangerous variant of COVID yesterday. Right after that clip on the news the station went to a clip at the State Health Department labs where they said they test 7% of the positive cases to determine which variant it is and they haven't seen this new variant yet.

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                            • W W Balboos GHB

                              It depends - to paraphrase the folks down-under: "Put a couple more dopes on the barbie".* Problem solved ? (Admission: idea not dissimilar to Jonathan Swift's solution to the Irish Potato Famine[^]

                              Ravings en masse^

                              "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                              "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                              Daniel Pfeffer
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                              W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote:

                              the folks down-under

                              Now there's an idea - make idiocy a transportable offence, and ship them all to Australia. Leaving Australia will only be allowed by competitive examination. :D

                              Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                                The trouble is that wisdom is finite, but stupidity is a renewable resource. Or at least it's a problem for now, until we can figure out a way to generate power with it.

                                Real programmers use butterflies

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                                Daniel Pfeffer
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                                honey the codewitch wrote:

                                until we can figure out a way to generate power with it.

                                Giant treadmills? :D

                                Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                                • W W Balboos GHB

                                  Living in a country that pretended (and it seems still pretends) it's nothing special at all. Just some sort of sniffle? Those people sick and dying are just faking it? I'll just make a mental note:   we've another troll in the lounge.

                                  Ravings en masse^

                                  "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                  "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                  SeanChupas
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                                  W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote:

                                  Living in a country that pretended (and it seems still pretends) it's nothing special at all.

                                  Really? I think you are referring to the US but I recall Trump shutting down travel over a year ago and many criticized him for that. Then he kept pushing to get vaccines produced and distributed. But then on the other hand, I live in a mostly rural area and no one around here cares about wearing masks or any other prevention and some people have got it and most have been just fine. It seems that if you have been impacted very negatively then you believe Covid is very very bad and if you have not been impacted very negatively, you believe it isn't as bad as many are making it. To each his own perspective.

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                                  • D Daniel Pfeffer

                                    W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote:

                                    the folks down-under

                                    Now there's an idea - make idiocy a transportable offence, and ship them all to Australia. Leaving Australia will only be allowed by competitive examination. :D

                                    Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                                    Mycroft Holmes
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                                    Not a problem - more tucker for the crocs, spiders and snakes. And we already have a large proportion of idiots (SB - Australian politics)

                                    Never underestimate the power of human stupidity - RAH I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP

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                                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                      Not all of use ate singing from the same song sheet ... :sigh: The Lounge[^]

                                      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                                      Jorgen Andersson
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                                      I guess that counts as a renewable resource

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                                      • S SeanChupas

                                        W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote:

                                        Living in a country that pretended (and it seems still pretends) it's nothing special at all.

                                        Really? I think you are referring to the US but I recall Trump shutting down travel over a year ago and many criticized him for that. Then he kept pushing to get vaccines produced and distributed. But then on the other hand, I live in a mostly rural area and no one around here cares about wearing masks or any other prevention and some people have got it and most have been just fine. It seems that if you have been impacted very negatively then you believe Covid is very very bad and if you have not been impacted very negatively, you believe it isn't as bad as many are making it. To each his own perspective.

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                                        W Balboos GHB
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                                        SeanChupas wrote:

                                        Really? I think you are referring to the US but I recall Trump shutting down travel over a year ago and many criticized him for that. Then he kept pushing to get vaccines produced and distributed.

                                        Trump left handling of COVID to the states. Lounge rules prohibit further comment on this. But in your country - one of the worst hotbed of COVID - you hide out in the country and pretend that there aren't bodies piling up world-wide - and SA has nearly 55,000 of those dead (that were reported). SO - since you don't know any of them you don't give a fuck - and don't even, I would imagine, believe they are dead based upon your original post's attitude.

                                        SeanChupas wrote:

                                        To each his own perspective.

                                        Ostrich's stick their head in the ground to make reality go away - and I imagine you do the same by bending over enough to stick your head up your own . . .

                                        Ravings en masse^

                                        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                        • M musefan

                                          What about all the people who haven't had COVID yet? You seem to be speaking with the assumption that every person has already had it before.

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                                          Thornik
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                                          Unfortunately, EVERY single guavament did everything to EXTEND(!) period of flu - yes, by these lockdowns, "sit at home" and other idiocity. Anyway, more than a year past since the first mass flu. What you think, will vaccine from "previous year stamm" helps today?? Did you hear anything about mutations? COVID mutates (as any normal flu) and when you become infected - just question of time. EARLIER IS BETTER, because all of us must at once get this crap and heal. Only this way we can eliminate virus in a shortest period. Of course morons who "rule the world" don't need "easy way" - they need to eliminate "middle class", downgrade economy and return you to 19th century. They even don't need 5G :) - it's enough to kill middle business (what exactly is happen right now).

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