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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    I think Gateway might work better as a TV series rather than a movie - just like The Expanse there's too much detail to make a movie I think. Good books though!

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    Lost User
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    Yeah, you're probably right. You can't skip on the detail in Gateway or you lose the big reveal at the end of the 4th novel. I don't count the 5th, because it has nothing to do with the main story line; however, it would make great filler episodes between the main story line. Come to think of it, Gateway would lend itself to more seasons beyond the main story line.

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    • B BernardIE5317

      I am hoping for proper science fiction films in particular portrayals of the David Wingrove series "Chung Kuo" and of William Goldman's "Forever War" hopefully by directors of the likes of Ridley Scott or Paul Verhoeven certainly not the likes of George Lucas. - Cheerio

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      Maximilien
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      In my experience as a science-fiction reader and moviegoer, it is very hard to adapt (hard) science fiction books to a movie format. Everyone hates them, or the actor portraying the books characters. (disclaimer I don't know those 2 authors or book series)

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      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

        I dunno: The Abyss, 2001, 12 Monkeys, Blade Runner, The Martian, Ex Machina, Aliens / Alien, The Matrix, ... All good films, all SF. Yes, there is a lot of trash out there, yes generally sequels are gawd awful cash-ins. But there are some real gems. And some stinkers that should have been good but were ruined: Enders Game springs to mind ...

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        Maximilien
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        brad pitt in 12 monkeys was very good.

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        • F Forogar

          There's hardly been a decent Sci-Fi film since the movies of the 50's and 60's (War of the Worlds, The Time Machine, This Island Earth, When World's Collide, Forbidden Planet, etc). All the recent ones are more concerned with people's feeling and emotional interaction with each other than having a good, solid story. Even the more science-fictiony movies, with space aliens taking over the planet or whatever are all about people's reactions to it rather than anything else. I'm not sure what I am trying to say here except I have read a lot of Sci-Fi books and most of them haven't been made into decent films - or even TV series.

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          David ONeil
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          [Dark City](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118929/?ref\_=nv\_sr\_srsg\_0) - One of the best. Don't know if it is like "Chung Kuo" or "Forever War" - I'll have to check them out.

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          • B BernardIE5317

            I am hoping for proper science fiction films in particular portrayals of the David Wingrove series "Chung Kuo" and of William Goldman's "Forever War" hopefully by directors of the likes of Ridley Scott or Paul Verhoeven certainly not the likes of George Lucas. - Cheerio

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            Super Lloyd
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            • F Forogar

              There's hardly been a decent Sci-Fi film since the movies of the 50's and 60's (War of the Worlds, The Time Machine, This Island Earth, When World's Collide, Forbidden Planet, etc). All the recent ones are more concerned with people's feeling and emotional interaction with each other than having a good, solid story. Even the more science-fictiony movies, with space aliens taking over the planet or whatever are all about people's reactions to it rather than anything else. I'm not sure what I am trying to say here except I have read a lot of Sci-Fi books and most of them haven't been made into decent films - or even TV series.

              - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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              Jorgen Andersson
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              There seriously was a lot of trash in the fifties and sixties as well. We just don't remember those. Or do you remember "The Robot vs. the Aztec Mummy", "The killer Shrews" or "Attack of the Giant Leeches"? The fact that everyone knows about "Plan 9 from outer space" is just because it's been dubbed it the "worst film ever made"

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              • K Kent Sharkey

                I dunno - I think you can have a good SF story and deal with the emotions of it - Arrival I think hit both of these. (and The Day the Earth Stood Still to add to your oldie list) I'm blanking right now on stuff I enjoyed lately - The Martian, and of course The Expanse. But beyond that, I can't think of anything. And here we are in a new golden age of SF books...

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                Duke Carey
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                The Expanse has been a delight. It's a relief, too, that they've mostly stuck to the story lines in the books. Waiting anxiously for the next installments to show up

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                • B BernardIE5317

                  I am hoping for proper science fiction films in particular portrayals of the David Wingrove series "Chung Kuo" and of William Goldman's "Forever War" hopefully by directors of the likes of Ridley Scott or Paul Verhoeven certainly not the likes of George Lucas. - Cheerio

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                  "Proper" is in the eye of the beholder, I think. I don't know why anyone has never made a movie of any of the Isaac Asimov books. "I Robot" was an abomination. The only thing it had in common with the book was the title. I like some humor in my SF movies too. "Repo Man", "Buckaroo Banzai Across the Eighth Dimension", "Earth Girls Are Easy", the whole "Men in Black" series, just to name a few. I too, think that "Blade Runner", and "RoboCop" were terrific. "Jurassic Park" was worth seeing just for the visual effects. I believe the problem with movies made from SF books is twofold. First, it is extremely difficult to condense a book, any book, down to Movie length. Truly exceptional screen writers are necessary, and there are not many of them out there. Second the unexceptional screen writers think they can write better than the author of the book. "I Robot" is a perfect example. For that reason, movies made from original scripts are far superior to adaptations of books. Isaac Asimov's Foundation series would make a great TV series. Almost any of William Gibson's books, particularly "Agency" and or "The Peripheral" would too. Any of Robert Heinlein's books "Stranger in a Strange Land" or "Friday" too. Terry Pratchett and his co-author's "Long Earth" series of books, likewise. Finally, a 50's movie not mentioned, is "Creature from the Black Lagoon" which I saw when I was 8 years old and gave me nightmares for months after. BTW: I really hated the movie "I Robot".

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                    "Proper" is in the eye of the beholder, I think. I don't know why anyone has never made a movie of any of the Isaac Asimov books. "I Robot" was an abomination. The only thing it had in common with the book was the title. I like some humor in my SF movies too. "Repo Man", "Buckaroo Banzai Across the Eighth Dimension", "Earth Girls Are Easy", the whole "Men in Black" series, just to name a few. I too, think that "Blade Runner", and "RoboCop" were terrific. "Jurassic Park" was worth seeing just for the visual effects. I believe the problem with movies made from SF books is twofold. First, it is extremely difficult to condense a book, any book, down to Movie length. Truly exceptional screen writers are necessary, and there are not many of them out there. Second the unexceptional screen writers think they can write better than the author of the book. "I Robot" is a perfect example. For that reason, movies made from original scripts are far superior to adaptations of books. Isaac Asimov's Foundation series would make a great TV series. Almost any of William Gibson's books, particularly "Agency" and or "The Peripheral" would too. Any of Robert Heinlein's books "Stranger in a Strange Land" or "Friday" too. Terry Pratchett and his co-author's "Long Earth" series of books, likewise. Finally, a 50's movie not mentioned, is "Creature from the Black Lagoon" which I saw when I was 8 years old and gave me nightmares for months after. BTW: I really hated the movie "I Robot".

                    Science Fiction Rules!

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                    BernardIE5317
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                    I found one aspect of the film "I Robot" rather interesting and enjoyable. Namely the logical reason the robots attempted to overcome humanity.

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                    • S Slow Eddie

                      "Proper" is in the eye of the beholder, I think. I don't know why anyone has never made a movie of any of the Isaac Asimov books. "I Robot" was an abomination. The only thing it had in common with the book was the title. I like some humor in my SF movies too. "Repo Man", "Buckaroo Banzai Across the Eighth Dimension", "Earth Girls Are Easy", the whole "Men in Black" series, just to name a few. I too, think that "Blade Runner", and "RoboCop" were terrific. "Jurassic Park" was worth seeing just for the visual effects. I believe the problem with movies made from SF books is twofold. First, it is extremely difficult to condense a book, any book, down to Movie length. Truly exceptional screen writers are necessary, and there are not many of them out there. Second the unexceptional screen writers think they can write better than the author of the book. "I Robot" is a perfect example. For that reason, movies made from original scripts are far superior to adaptations of books. Isaac Asimov's Foundation series would make a great TV series. Almost any of William Gibson's books, particularly "Agency" and or "The Peripheral" would too. Any of Robert Heinlein's books "Stranger in a Strange Land" or "Friday" too. Terry Pratchett and his co-author's "Long Earth" series of books, likewise. Finally, a 50's movie not mentioned, is "Creature from the Black Lagoon" which I saw when I was 8 years old and gave me nightmares for months after. BTW: I really hated the movie "I Robot".

                      Science Fiction Rules!

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                      Sasa Cetkovic
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                      Isaac Asimov's Foundation series would make a great TV series.

                      It will be available soon on Apple TV+

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                      • S Sasa Cetkovic

                        Quote:

                        Isaac Asimov's Foundation series would make a great TV series.

                        It will be available soon on Apple TV+

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                        Slow Eddie
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                        that's enough to make me get Apple TV!

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